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#3224843 - 12/27/19 10:01 PM recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun
SavageSS Offline
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new to predator hunting need recommendation for a few pieces 1st of all a semi auto coyote shotgun
thanks in advance
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#3224847 - 12/27/19 10:36 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
OKRattler Offline
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What's your price range? Benelli or Beretta would be my top choices.
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#3224868 - 12/28/19 12:26 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Benelli M2... done. And you're welcome!
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#3224873 - 12/28/19 12:59 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
mnblaster Offline
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not cheap, not a entry level gun but I have killed running coyotes stone dead at 70 yds with my Rem SP10 loaded with #4 buckshot
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#3224874 - 12/28/19 01:08 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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#3224880 - 12/28/19 07:47 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
ackleyman Offline
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3" buckshot shells kick a LOT!

Recoil reduction is a major factor for some of us. Beretta has the best gas operation of any shotgun that I have owned, they never jam.

Beretta also has an optional "Kick Off system" in some models that is a gas piston in the butt of the stock that also absorbs a lot of recoil. The kick off system is terrific to say the least.

A combo of Gas Operation and the Kick Off system is a marriage made in Heaven to say the least.

If you look around, you can find a complete 391 with kick off system, all chokes, in the box in the $800-$850 range. The shotgun also has flush fit sling studs. You will never sell the shotgun.

Here is one for sale with the kick off system, seller does not know what he has:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/846786345

I have had Rem 1100's and Rem 11/87's also, the Beretta 391 has a noticeable recoil reduction.

The Benelli I had kicked my brains out, about like a pump or a Browning A 5...inertia recoil operated means you get stomped, $1200 lesson that I learned the hard way.


Edited by ackleyman (12/28/19 07:59 AM)

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#3225045 - 12/28/19 09:04 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
SavageSS Offline
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thank you all for your recommendations , much appreciated , I will try and remember to repost after I choose one
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#3225075 - 12/28/19 10:25 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
kooman Offline
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Donít over look the beretta a300 outlander, it is berettas lower price point semi auto. There are a few changes from the 391-400 line but at 1/2 the price itís definitely worth looking at. I have one with a 24Ē barrel and I shoot both light target loads and 3Ē #4 buckshot without any issues. It definitely doesnít compare to my a400 but for a beater shotgun that works when you need it to Iím happy with it.

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#3225076 - 12/28/19 10:31 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: GC]
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Originally Posted By: GC
Benelli M2... done. And you're welcome!


Good choice as is the m1 super90. I like the steady grip option.
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#3225088 - 12/28/19 11:34 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
mserman Offline
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Benelli M2. I also have a Beretta A400 for bird hunting but the Benelli is still my favorite.

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#3225098 - 12/29/19 12:51 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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im in the same market and there is more good options than ever before. As said before, Benelli and Beretta take the cake. That said, they're expensive so if you want to have champagne but you're on a Miller budget, id take a very close look at the Stoeger M3000. Sportsmans warehouse had them on sale for black friday for $400 after the rebate. Retay and some of the new Weatherbys shouldnt be over looked. My father shoots a Wby SA-08 in 20 ga and that is a [beeep] of a shotgun. I swing it better than my old SBEII. They dropped a new version called the ELement and its VERY similar to a monetfeltro in design and function. They also take Winchester/ Invector chokes so you can find chokes anywhere. The A300 is nice but its clunky and IMO, if you're gonna go clunky, go Stoeger. The Retays used to be about $300-$400 when they first hit the market but seem to have climbed significantly. They seem to be well made too and the one i shot felt like any of the Benelli's i've owned.

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#3225111 - 12/29/19 07:58 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Also the stock is somewhat adjustable for drop by way of shims.

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#3225325 - 12/30/19 09:04 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
masshunter Offline
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I like my Mossberg 930,have used it down into single digits and no problems.

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#3225356 - 12/30/19 11:29 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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What no love for the Versamax? I love mine with the 22" barrel.
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#3225358 - 12/30/19 11:39 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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For the money Stoeger M3000, mines never missed a beat. Easy to maintain.

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#3225368 - 12/30/19 12:19 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: crittr gittr]
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Originally Posted By: crittr gittr
What no love for the Versamax? I love mine with the 22" barrel.


I bought a Remington Versa Max Waterfowl Pro and have had nothing but problems with it.

The most expensive Remington shotgun I have ever bought and it had the worst trigger of them all. There was so much travel in the trigger it felt like a 2 stage trigger.

It has had fail to feed and fail to eject problems also.

Buy a Beretta or a Benelli.
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#3225380 - 12/30/19 12:37 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: derbyacresbob]
tripod3 Offline
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Gotta put a plug in for Browning, have had zero problems, lightweight light recoil.
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#3225381 - 12/30/19 12:38 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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I'm a junior-novice level shotgunner, not qualified to give advice, but nothing but love for my M2.









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#3225387 - 12/30/19 12:58 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: derbyacresbob]
crittr gittr Offline
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Bob I'm sorry you have had problems with yours. I have shot everything from trap, doves, Pheasants, ducks, geese, and of course coyotes without any problems whatsoever. Sorry to hear if your problems.
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#3225392 - 12/30/19 01:38 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: crittr gittr]
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Originally Posted By: crittr gittr
What no love for the Versamax? I love mine with the 22" barrel.


It's heavy...
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#3225393 - 12/30/19 01:46 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: tripod3]
GC Offline
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Originally Posted By: tripod3
Gotta put a plug in for Browning, have had zero problems, lightweight light recoil.


When I bought a gas gun it's a Beretta. And I have never regretted that, though my old Benelli M1's seem to do all the real work around here. However, the Browning and Winchester gas guns are very good. With the addendum that Browning/Winchester has much better customer service than the Italian companies. The other side of that is that thankfully I've never needed customer service for the Benelli's and Beretta's I own. Browning and Winchester don't suck.
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#3225394 - 12/30/19 01:51 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: GC]
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Originally Posted By: GC
Originally Posted By: crittr gittr
What no love for the Versamax? I love mine with the 22" barrel.


It's heavy...


Eat your Wheaties!
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#3225397 - 12/30/19 01:55 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: crittr gittr]
GC Offline
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Originally Posted By: crittr gittr
Originally Posted By: GC
Originally Posted By: crittr gittr
What no love for the Versamax? I love mine with the 22" barrel.


It's heavy...


Eat your Wheaties!


LOL...
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#3225456 - 12/30/19 06:56 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Browning 2000 is made by Beretta, they have soft recoil also. You can find them pretty cheap, with a cracked forearm, easily fixed with JB weld or Marine tex, paint the whole gun with Archery paint.

Beretta 390 is another soft recoil shotgun. I shot sporting clays for three years and never cleaned mine. They made a black matte with plastic stock if you can find one it will be inexpensive. These Beretta's just keep running.

I sold a Rem 1100 that I know that I killed at least 500 coyotes with in a standard fixed choke shooting 3" mags, just keep watch of the O ring gas seal, wipe the magazine tube off and do not oil.

Rem 11/87's are great, just watch the O ring and replace when it starts to get thin, and use Remignton O rings.

I still run a 11/87 and it shoots 20" patterns with OO and OOO Remington buck and 30" patterns with Rem #4 Rem buck with Carlson's turkey choke. Problem with me and Rem's is point of impact vs point of aim. I shoot a foot low and a foot to the left. So, I use a Burris speed beade on the 11/87.

The Beretta 391 with the kick off system is the cat's meow in recoil reduction along with gas operated.

I will be burried with a string of varmint calls around my neck, all decked out in camo, and my Beretta 391 in my right hand and Bible in my left hand.


Edited by ackleyman (12/31/19 07:52 PM)

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#3225727 - 12/31/19 07:38 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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CZ712 20" if your on a budget. I've been shooting a 28" CZ712 for birds but I prefer a short barrel for calling personally. Stoeger m3000 is also a good "budget" gun from what I've read.


Edited by desertcj (12/31/19 07:39 PM)

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#3225761 - 12/31/19 10:20 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Loc: ND
No real world help here as I rarely am skilled enough to call em close enough for a scattergun but have been thoroughly impressed with my new version Browning A5 I got about 5 years ago. It would pack a stiff recoil with coyote loads but is nice and light to tote around. Gotta think the extra capacity with the extended mag I use for snow geese would be a nice option, cool if nothing else!

Side note: DAA and ackkeyman you two are my new idols! Your shotgun work is flat impressive. 500 with an 1100 is amazing!


Edited by P&Y (12/31/19 10:29 PM)

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#3225991 - 01/01/20 11:40 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
ackleyman Offline
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We hunted in Mexico 8 hunts a year at least, tremendous numbers of coyotes down there.

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#3226002 - 01/02/20 12:26 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: mnblaster]
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Originally Posted By: mnblaster
not cheap, not a entry level gun but I have killed running coyotes stone dead at 70 yds with my Rem SP10 loaded with #4 buckshot

Same here. Just bought a near new SP 10 with a 26 inch barrel and fitted it with a ported Pattern Master. It's a beast. Grizz
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#3226199 - 01/03/20 08:08 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Considering the same question myself. Looking at a Maxus - If a semi-auto we have to restrict the mag capacity down to 2+1 so the speed load feature might be nifty

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#3226208 - 01/03/20 09:33 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
NevadaZielmeister Offline
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I have the Benelli Super Black Eagle II which really is an M2. It has the lightest recoil and it does not take forever to clean. It has never failed to cycle and not that heavy.

Just so people know, Beretta owns Benelli and many other firearm manufacturers. (Franchi, SAKO, Stoeger, Tikka, Uberti, and the Burris Optics company to name a few.)


Edited by NevadaZielmeister (01/03/20 01:33 PM)
Edit Reason: Lightest recoil.. spelling

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#3226229 - 01/03/20 12:14 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: NevadaZielmeister]
GC Offline
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Originally Posted By: NevadaZielmeister
I have the Benelli Super Black Eagle II which really is an M2.


Kinda sorta but not exactly. In my experience whenever I hear of a Benelli that has an issue with reliability nearly every time it is an SBE. The M1/M2 guns are nearly bulletproof but the SBE series doesn't completely share that same reputation.
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#3226232 - 01/03/20 12:46 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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+1

SBE series had much tighter chambers


Edited by ackleyman (01/03/20 12:47 PM)

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#3226308 - 01/03/20 08:29 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: mserman]
UncleHef-A. Offline
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Originally Posted By: mserman
Benelli M2. I also have a Beretta A400 for bird hunting but the Benelli is still my favorite.


I like the feel of my M2, but for geese and predators my A400 is softer on my shoulder with the heavier loads.

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#3226325 - 01/03/20 09:46 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
shanedogg Offline
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Benelli M2,(SBE but I would still shoot 3") 26", 3" #4 Remington lead Buck... Dont settle for less(Franchi Stoeger etc.)If budget is issue and an auto is a must, I would get a weatherby gas op.Then move up when money has been saved.Hard to beat a good pump, that cycles smooth, with a interchangeable, fixed full or modified with them rem # 4's. A good amount of shotguns/factory loads go into what I've learned in posting this.
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#3226482 - 01/04/20 08:31 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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I have shot a Benelli m2 tactical for many years with zero malfunctions. Two years ago I picked up a Remington versa Max and it is also an outstanding shotgun from trap loads to buckshot, zero issues. I run an Ultradot red Dot sight on the Benelli and just use the factory fiber optics on the remington.

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#3226840 - 01/06/20 05:19 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Here is a photo of the VersaMax ...

P.S. Don't you just LOVE the green zombie skull camo! smile

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#3227008 - 01/07/20 02:52 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Opinions vary on this topic and none of them are wrong so my take on shotgunning for coyotes is that I would buy a pump. Most people I know who even carry a shotgun while coyote hunting are using it as their secondary weapon, second to their varmint rifle. If that is the case, that shotgun is lying next to you in the dirt, in the snow, in the brush. I would want something I did not have to worry about cycling in those elements. Shotgunning coyotes is usually a one shot kill, unless you miss, so is there really an advantage in having a semiauto for that purpose?
I would look to pick up a 12 gauge synthetic pump action and use #4 buck.
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#3227009 - 01/07/20 03:13 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: WyoBull]
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^^ Best advice I've read yet

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#3227062 - 01/07/20 07:25 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: WyoBull]
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Originally Posted By: WyoBull
Opinions vary on this topic and none of them are wrong so my take on shotgunning for coyotes is that I would buy a pump. Most people I know who even carry a shotgun while coyote hunting are using it as their secondary weapon, second to their varmint rifle. If that is the case, that shotgun is lying next to you in the dirt, in the snow, in the brush. I would want something I did not have to worry about cycling in those elements. Shotgunning coyotes is usually a one shot kill, unless you miss, so is there really an advantage in having a semiauto for that purpose?
I would look to pick up a 12 gauge synthetic pump action and use #4 buck.


When I take a rifle and a shotgun on coyote calling stand I have the shotgun in my hands or lap and have my rifle sitting next to me.

If you try to switch to the shotgun you may not have time to do it, or when you move to put down the rifle and grab the shotgun the coyote just saw this movement and turned away.

For my style of hunting coyotes with both the rifle and the shotgun I need to shoot the shotgun with no movement until I am ready to shoot. I have more time to switch to my rifle if I need it.

I wish I had more one shot one kills with my shotgun but quite often it doesn't work out that way, so I like having a gas operated semi-auto that allows me to get off quick second and third shots if needed.

Most good coyote loads have a fair amount of recoil so most people can recover and shoot a second and third shot with a gas operated semi-auto a little quicker than a pump action shotgun. When you get a little older in age and it is cold and you haven't moved in 10 to 20 minutes, shooting quickly with a semi- auto is much easier than using a pump shotgun.
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#3227075 - 01/07/20 08:26 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Another reason to have more than one shot quickly on tap is when you call multiples.
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#3227080 - 01/07/20 08:38 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Exactly what Bob said. Coyote loads have a hefty recoil. There is a big difference between a gas operated semi and a pump. There is even a noticeable difference between a gas operated semi and an inertia operated semi.

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#3227087 - 01/07/20 09:47 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Benelli M2 porn

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#3228183 - 01/14/20 11:01 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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While I really like my Versamax Tactical, I've been wanting to run a thermal scope on it (we're restricted to shotgun/.22LR for night hunting here in MA). But the Picatinny rail on the Versamax is mounted with very small screws, and some owners have mentioned the holes in the receiver stripping out.

So when I spotted the Armscor VR80 w/a integral Pic rail, I thought that might be what I'm looking for. I just picked up the VR80, and it feels good in the hand. I've yet to get it to the range though. Hopefully soon.

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#3228186 - 01/14/20 11:29 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: WyoBull]
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Originally Posted By: WyoBull
Opinions vary on this topic and none of them are wrong so my take on shotgunning for coyotes is that I would buy a pump. Most people I know who even carry a shotgun while coyote hunting are using it as their secondary weapon, second to their varmint rifle. If that is the case, that shotgun is lying next to you in the dirt, in the snow, in the brush. I would want something I did not have to worry about cycling in those elements. Shotgunning coyotes is usually a one shot kill, unless you miss, so is there really an advantage in having a semiauto for that purpose?
I would look to pick up a 12 gauge synthetic pump action and use #4 buck.


a lot wrong right there.

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#3228304 - 01/15/20 12:14 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
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Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnot
Originally Posted By: WyoBull
Opinions vary on this topic and none of them are wrong so my take on shotgunning for coyotes is that I would buy a pump. Most people I know who even carry a shotgun while coyote hunting are using it as their secondary weapon, second to their varmint rifle. If that is the case, that shotgun is lying next to you in the dirt, in the snow, in the brush. I would want something I did not have to worry about cycling in those elements. Shotgunning coyotes is usually a one shot kill, unless you miss, so is there really an advantage in having a semiauto for that purpose?
I would look to pick up a 12 gauge synthetic pump action and use #4 buck.


a lot wrong right there.


Yep

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#3228306 - 01/15/20 12:20 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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Many trips I only carry a shotgun. Many times I need to double tap a coyote,esp when shooting through brush and heavy grass. I don't like recoil, so for shotguns I'm a semi-auto guy.
Buy something good, take good care of it and it will get the job done.

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#3228307 - 01/15/20 12:23 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
Originally Posted By: mnblaster
not cheap, not a entry level gun but I have killed running coyotes stone dead at 70 yds with my Rem SP10 loaded with #4 buckshot

Same here. Just bought a near new SP 10 with a 26 inch barrel and fitted it with a ported Pattern Master. It's a beast. Grizz


I had one for a short while and you are right, it's a beast ! A whole lot of gun to hang onto.

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#3229458 - 01/21/20 09:30 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: Tim Neitzke]
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Posts: 87
Loc: Upper Peninsula MI
Originally Posted By: Tim Neitzke
Many trips I only carry a shotgun. Many times I need to double tap a coyote,esp when shooting through brush and heavy grass. I don't like recoil, so for shotguns I'm a semi-auto guy.
Buy something good, take good care of it and it will get the job done.


I can second this. I probably carry a shotgun as my primary on 80% of my stands. It's all about terrain. Mostly I hunt cedar swamps or I'm calling with a friend who is carrying an AR. Close up action is harder but way more fun in my opinion.

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#3229515 - 01/22/20 10:32 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: Tim Neitzke]
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Loc: Wyoming
Originally Posted By: Tim Neitzke
Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnot
Originally Posted By: WyoBull
Opinions vary on this topic and none of them are wrong so my take on shotgunning for coyotes is that I would buy a pump. Most people I know who even carry a shotgun while coyote hunting are using it as their secondary weapon, second to their varmint rifle. If that is the case, that shotgun is lying next to you in the dirt, in the snow, in the brush. I would want something I did not have to worry about cycling in those elements. Shotgunning coyotes is usually a one shot kill, unless you miss, so is there really an advantage in having a semiauto for that purpose?
I would look to pick up a 12 gauge synthetic pump action and use #4 buck.


a lot wrong right there.


Yep


I would not say there is a lot of "wrong" in my post, what I would say is it depends a lot on the terrain where you are calling. You guys obviously are not hunting here in the rocky mountain west where shotgunning for coyotes on a percentage basis to rifles is pretty low.
I stand by my pump vs. semiauto opinion, but it's just that, an opinion and certainly not wrong.
Shoot what works for you, there are a lot of choices out there. Wouldn't it be boring if we all shot 223's?
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#3229517 - 01/22/20 10:41 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
greengt88 Offline
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We have a varied mix of open fields with shots to 500+yds, dense woodland with 50yd or less and anything in between here in South Central PA. So really depends where you are hunting what the primary would be.
I think opinions are going to be regional and vary state to state. I dont think anyones opinion has been 'wrong' that Ive read on here so far. Its personal preference and terrain where you will be hunting.
I do find that I still try to pump Semi Autos occaisionally and cant seem to break the habit

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#3229608 - 01/22/20 09:27 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: WyoBull]
mserman Offline
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Sorry WyoBull, didn't mean to imply anybody was WRONG.

I love shotgunning and that is completely due to terrain limitations. The reason I chose an autoloader over a pump is that my Supernova is HEAVY. My M2 is shorter, lighter, less recoil and a freaking semi-auto. pew-pew!

If you drop em DRT who cares what you're hitting them with.

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#3229646 - 01/22/20 11:55 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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For an affordable option, take a look at the Franchi Affinity. I added one to the stable last year and have shot it quite a bit on doves, ducks, quail, and coyotes and it has performed nicely. My son killed a couple coyotes with it during my November deer hunt. I finally got to try it out earlier this week (scroll down to my 1/22/2020 reply).
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#3229685 - 01/23/20 09:56 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: mserman]
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Loc: Wyoming
Originally Posted By: mserman
Sorry WyoBull, didn't mean to imply anybody was WRONG.

I love shotgunning and that is completely due to terrain limitations. The reason I chose an autoloader over a pump is that my Supernova is HEAVY. My M2 is shorter, lighter, less recoil and a freaking semi-auto. pew-pew!

If you drop em DRT who cares what you're hitting them with.


No problem mserman at all. My opinion was based on years of experience where I hunt, which is in Wyoming. A very small % of the coyote hunters here use a shotgun as their main weapon. The only reason is terrain. Wide open spaces typically don't equate to a lot of shotgunning success.

You guys that hunt in heavier dense woods, thickets, creek and river bottoms face a very different scenario and a shotgun would be awesome.

No hurt feelings here at all, just a different perspective based on my home terrain.
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#3229692 - 01/23/20 10:48 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
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What ever shotgun you have, please pattern it. Gun fit is critical on a shotgun.

For me, Remingtons shoot a foot low and foot to the left at 40 yards so I am barely hitting coyotes when I aim straight at them.

Answer for me was a Burris Speed Beade.

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#3230351 - 01/27/20 07:46 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Just wanted to add. Several people suggested a pump shotgun but for a older guy with a bad shoulder I really need a semi-auto. Them coyote loads kill on both ends in a pump. I'm still Benelli all the way
but shotguns are like pickups everybody has there favorite.
Hold them all and buy the one that fits you best. That is what I did.

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#3230592 - 01/28/20 07:06 PM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Southern Utah
Another more affordable option for me was the Weatherby SA-459, itís their threat response/ turkey model. Itís short, light and has been flawless for me. I take with me to every stand now, would rather leave the rifle than the shotgun most of the time.

8EB3F683-DE5E-4C41-8D25-CA20651959BE by Cornivorus, on Flickr


Edited by Vance (01/29/20 11:48 PM)

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#3230821 - 01/30/20 12:12 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
Vance Offline
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Loc: Southern Utah


IMG_0125 by Cornivorus, on Flickr

And another dark dog !

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#3230840 - 01/30/20 08:22 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: Vance]
greengt88 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/13
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Loc: york pa
What optic is on the SA-459?

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#3230843 - 01/30/20 08:36 AM Re: recomend a semi auto coyote shotgun [Re: SavageSS]
Vance Offline
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Loc: Southern Utah
Aimpoint red dot 9000sc model.

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