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#3218775 - 11/18/19 02:33 PM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
derbyacresbob Offline
Die Hard Member with a vengeance

Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 4419
Loc: Kern County, CA
I am pretty lucky because I get to call coyotes on quite a bit of private property. From what I have seen it only takes 3 or 4 times of calling a area within a month or two to make the coyotes much smarter about running towards any type of distress sound.

Even if you kill every coyote you call in there are other coyotes out there that got educated while you are killing the coyotes you did call in.

Foxpro has probable 100 or more distress sounds that I have called in coyotes with. I use about 30 different Foxpro distress sounds to call in coyotes right up close to my Foxpro callers.

I don't believe coyotes quit coming into a Foxpro caller because they have heard every Foxpro sound. If a coyote runs towards any type of distress sounds and smells a human or gets shot at they are learning about distress sounds being a problem for them.

If 5 guys are hunting a area fairly often with hand calls and getting the coyotes educated do you think you could go to that area with a Foxpro distress sound and have the coyotes run right up to your Foxpro? I don't think so.

Smart coyotes that are being pressured with distress calls are not keeping track of ten different hand call distress sounds and 20 different Foxpro distress sounds that they have heard before and are just waiting for a new distress sound to run towards.

I do try not to use the same distress sounds when I go back to a area with my Foxpro callers. But back in the old days I used a Johnny Stewart Super Jack cassette tape for 4 or 5 months and did pretty good with just one sound.

For call shy coyotes the Foxpro coyote vocal sounds, pup distress sounds and coyote growls work great on coyotes that have been educated to rabbit and bird distress sounds.

It is much easier to call in coyotes if they think they are hearing other coyotes. If you can make it sound like a coyote fight in December, January and February you can have great results.

Using the actual recording sounds of coyotes is the best way I know of to have a coyote think you are a coyote.
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#3218777 - 11/18/19 02:49 PM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
Coyote-conquest Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 02/01/18
Posts: 78
Loc: Kentucky, US
Thanks everybody. I'll keep it around. I walk a lot and I carry a gun, vanguard bipod and a small stool that folds up. When I take the Banshee I usually put it in a back pack or sometimes a range bag type thing with a shoulder strap. I bought new rechargable batteries for it about a month or 2 ago. Before that sometimes the remote wouldn't work more than 5 feet away even when the batteries were fully charged. It was really annoying putting the caller out, come back sit and hit a button and nothing. I'd have to get up, walk up to it and hit whatever sound and it would work then walk away. I only went out once with it after buying batteries so I guess it fixed it. It worked just fine sometimes though so I can't say for sure if it's fixed. In the mean time I've found I called more in with mouth calls and I think it has a lot to do with so many people having foxpros. After reading all the replies I'll have to think about where it will fit in or work better than mouth calls. I know a few places that are hard to call with mouth calls.

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#3218779 - 11/18/19 03:14 PM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
Coyote-conquest Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 02/01/18
Posts: 78
Loc: Kentucky, US
I know a lot of you have been hunting them longer than me and hunt them more often. I have a couple different theories about E-calls. I wonder if coyotes remember different sounds or if maybe the E-calls have a different sound that they can hear. I have about 1000 acres of private land including my own that I hunt right here. And probably about the same that I can drive to. When I first got an Icotec it worked. It seemed it worked less and less over time. I got a foxpro. It worked and then worked less and less. and then the mouth calls have worked. And I know it's not a big area and it only holds so many coyotes but it's more than people think. I live in some prime habitat and know of 4 different packs just in my area. I also know a lot of people who have E-calls and no idea really of how to use them. I may be wrong but it's what it seems like to me

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#3218782 - 11/18/19 03:28 PM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
ackleyman Online
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8550
Loc: Hickville
Watch your major and minor feeding periods along with weather fronts moving in. Leading edge of a low pressure front is best.

I rarely ever liked to hunt on a day where it was a clear blue sky, barometric pressure is usually high then.

Hunting coyotes is a lot about, population in a particular area, moon phase(major/minor feeding periods), barometric pressure(weather fronts).

During times of high pressure fronts, best to scout. Otherwise, you may just be educating them.

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#3218792 - 11/18/19 05:37 PM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
K-22hornet. Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 1585
Loc: Colorado
I started coyote hunting back in 1990, or so, with hand calls. No success the first year, at all, so I cobbled up an old car stereo/cassette player, small 12V battery and a Radio Shack speakerhorn, and started to call in coyotes. Worked pretty well.

After a few years, I started to use hand calls again, and, for over 20 years, that is all I use now, so, 'full circle' for me as well.

Last year though, I bought a J Stewart GS2 caller, primarily to target cats.
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#3219010 - 11/20/19 08:19 AM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
ehitzari Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 44
Loc: Idaho
Yeah I too take both. Each has their place

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#3219266 - 11/22/19 04:08 AM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: Coyote-conquest]
LDhunter Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 2144
Loc: NW Florida Piney Woods
I hunted coyotes with only one dying rabbit hand call all over Colorado back when I lived there in the late 80's and sometimes I felt like I could call a coyote in a shopping mall it was so easy. LOL

Now that everyone and his brother is running and gunning with ecallers I bet it's a whole new game and they're harder to fool but I haven't been back hunting coyotes out west for a loooong time.

Here in NW Florida if you can call in and kill coyotes you're some kind of coyote calling ninja. It's really really difficult because of all our brush. They'll sneak in behind you and get your scent waaaaay before you ever see one.
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#3219267 - 11/22/19 04:22 AM Re: full circle on calls... [Re: LDhunter]
johnrr65 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/06/19
Posts: 30
Loc: Bali
Originally Posted By: LDhunter
I hunted coyotes with only one dying rabbit hand call all over Colorado back when I lived there in the late 80's and sometimes I felt like I could call a coyote in a shopping mall it was so easy. LOL

Now that everyone and his brother is running and gunning with ecallers I bet it's a whole new game and they're harder to fool but I haven't been back hunting coyotes out west for a loooong time.

Here in NW Florida if you can call in and kill coyotes you're some kind of coyote calling ninja. It's really really difficult because of all our brush. They'll sneak in behind you and get your scent waaaaay before you ever see one.

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