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#3213227 - 09/25/19 07:08 AM Impeachment
IAyoteHNTR Offline
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Registered: 12/23/05
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Hears a nice painful truth for some of the members here:

Formal impeachment proceedings are beginning.

ABOUT [beeep] TIME!!! thumbup

Let the deny and deflect responses begin. rolleyes

Have a great day everyone. I know my day is beginning with a bigger smile on my face than usual. smile
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#3213229 - 09/25/19 07:44 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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you're gonna love president pence
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#3213230 - 09/25/19 08:06 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
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Doesn't seem to take much for the D's to make fools of themselves-----------> again.

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#3213232 - 09/25/19 09:21 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
tnshootist Offline
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Trying to talk to a liberal is like peeing in the ocean.

Bless their hearts.

I do admire their ability to stand in front of a camera and say the stuff they do with a straight face. I couldn't do it. I would get tickled.
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#3213235 - 09/25/19 11:08 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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Looks like they managed to kill any chance of getting gun control now
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#3213239 - 09/25/19 11:28 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
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Loc: So Cal
I'm not on here much these days so what is it with this guy IAyoteHNTR just waiting around rubbing his hands salivating with his tongue out ready to pounce like a little weasel? Is life that unfulfilling that he feels he has to come on here and attempt to get under peoples skin? This is a hunting forum over all when was the last time he posted anything non political and related to the outdoors?

What this guy may not understand is that 'impeachment' does not mean Trump is thrown out of office. Bill Clinton was impeached he finished his second term and his popularity went up the difference will be that Trump will have accomplish many things during his two terms in office. Already he has done way more for the United States to this point than Clinton and Osama combined. That's the bottom line and that's what the voters will remember when their alone at the polls next year. Besides, this would never make it through the senate even if it was to make it out of the house.

Once William Barr finishes his investigation into the attempted coup, all he11 is going break loose for the Dems and impeachment will be the last thing on their mind. Give it a year IAyoteHNTR then let's see that smile on your face. Regards, Grizz
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#3213240 - 09/25/19 12:10 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
old cat Offline
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
I'm not on here much these days so what is it with this guy IAyoteHNTR just waiting around rubbing his hands salivating with his tongue out ready to pounce like a little weasel? Is life that unfulfilling that he feels he has to come on here and attempt to get under peoples skin? This is a hunting forum over all when was the last time he posted anything non political and related to the outdoors?

What this guy may not understand is that 'impeachment' does not mean Trump is thrown out of office. Bill Clinton was impeached he finished his second term and his popularity went up the difference will be that Trump will have accomplish many things during his two terms in office. Already he has done way more for the United States to this point than Clinton and Osama combined. That's the bottom line and that's what the voters will remember when their alone at the polls next year. Besides, this would never make it through the senate even if it was to make it out of the house.

Once William Barr finishes his investigation into the attempted coup, all he11 is going break loose for the Dems and impeachment will be the last thing on their mind. Give it a year IAyoteHNTR then let's see that smile on your face. Regards, Grizz
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#3213242 - 09/25/19 12:17 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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Loc: So Cal
Hey Old Cat, I'm originally from Parkersburg West By God. Regards
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#3213255 - 09/25/19 03:06 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
old cat Offline
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
Hey Old Cat, I'm originally from Parkersburg West By God. Regards



I am only 45 minutes from there. I have family in Round Valley Calif. Great, great, great,
uncle was first white man in the valley. Pleased to know you.


Edited by old cat (09/25/19 03:07 PM)

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#3213258 - 09/25/19 04:06 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: tnshootist]
hm1996 Offline
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Yep, the one thing Nancy Pelosi has to look forward to when the Socialist Democrats lose the house and she suddenly becomes unemployed, with her extensive experience gained as speaker this year, she can certainly get a job herding cats.



Regards,
hm
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#3213268 - 09/25/19 06:37 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: hm1996]
Kermit in Va. Offline
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Boys, he just waiting on his new "puppy" to pet.
He wore the hair off the last 12 hes had since TRUMP
took office. He'll be ok for awhile when he gets it.


Kermit


Edited by Kermit in Va. (09/25/19 06:38 PM)

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#3213269 - 09/25/19 06:37 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
songdog Offline
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Quote:
I know my day is beginning with a bigger smile on my face than usual.
Let me guess, your morning piss actually made it into the toilet? rolleyes
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#3213274 - 09/25/19 07:23 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Coyotejunki Offline
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actually I believe it is an impeachment enquirery, not a formal impeachment, with a formal impeachment the accuse has rights and the dem would have to have an open vote.
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#3213275 - 09/25/19 07:36 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Coyotejunki]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 3518
Loc: So Cal
Originally Posted By: Coyotejunki
actually I believe it is an impeachment enquirery, not a formal impeachment, with a formal impeachment the accuse has rights and the dem would have to have an open vote.

Thats exactly right. Like I said this probably won't make it out of the House Of Reps. Our boy IAyoteHNTR just likes to antagonize folks. He get's off on it. Grizz
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#3213277 - 09/25/19 07:42 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
jsh Offline
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Pelosi classic daffinition “if you think your going to say something stupid, why open your mouth and remove all doubt “.

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#3213279 - 09/25/19 08:04 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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Yep, it's not an impeachment. It's not even the start of an impeachment. It's actually nothing different than what was happening last week, just blown up for some new coverage and to motivate their base.

There are constitutionally specified steps to an impeachment & not one has been done yet.
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#3213280 - 09/25/19 08:18 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: jsh]
hm1996 Offline
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It would seem that either the Democrats have an extremely short memory, forgetting that their three congressional stars did exactly the same thing in 2018 that they NOW claim is an impeachable offense for the President, OR there is a double standard rampant in our justice system. WHICH ONE IS IT?


DEMOCRATS ASKED UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE TRUMP IN 2018

September 25, 2019 By Tristan Justice

While Democrats rush toward impeachment over an anonymous whistleblower complaint accusing President Donald Trump of requesting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, many have ignored the fact that last year, Senate Democrats wrote to Ukraine’s prosecutor general asking Ukrainian officials to investigate Trump.

In May of 2018, Sens. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote to Ukraine's Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko asking the Ukraine government to keep four investigations open related to the Mueller probe into Russian election interference in the U.S. and indicated that their support for foreign aid to Ukraine could be in jeopardy.

“As strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine, we believe that our cooperation should extend to such legal matters,” the senators wrote, adding that they were “disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these principles in order to avoid the ire of President Trump.”

Durbin, one of the letter’s authors, has now come out in support of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s opening of an impeachment inquiry against Trump. Leahy and Menendez have both called for an investigation into the president’s alleged misconduct related to Ukraine.

The White House has come under heightened scrutiny from Democratic lawmakers and political opponents after an uncorroborated complaint was filed by a whistleblower accusing the president of conspiring with Zelensky to impede the campaign of Joe Biden, who is the 2020 Democratic front-runner. The complaint was deemed “credible” and “urgent” by the intelligence inspector general despite the whistleblower admitting having no firsthand knowledge of the conversations between the two world leaders in question.

Some Democrats who were previously opposed to impeachment, however, have now supported the start of official proceedings, including Pelosi, who endorsed impeachment Tuesday with the announcement of an official inquiry the House has not yet voted on.

On Wednesday, an unclassified and unredacted transcript of the July phone call between Trump and Zelensky was released revealing no quid pro quo offered by Trump regarding his request that the Ukraine leader look into Biden’s son, Hunter, for shady business dealings with a Ukrainian energy company where Biden, as vice president, “stopped the prosecution” into the company, the board of which Hunter sat on for $50,000 a month.

The transcript shows Zelensky first bringing up the issue of political corruption in Ukraine, followed by Trump suggesting that Ukraine authorities investigate their country’s own involvement in the Russian collusion conspiracy that suggested the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russian government to defeat Hillary Clinton in 2016, which after a three-year probe turned out to be demonstrably false.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/25/democrats-asked-ukraine-to-investigate-trump-in-2018/







Regards,
hm



Edited by hm1996 (09/25/19 08:32 PM)
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#3213282 - 09/25/19 08:56 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
quickblood Offline
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Registered: 01/21/11
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Loc: PA
Libtards grasping again! rolleyes

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#3213284 - 09/25/19 09:29 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Heymartay Offline
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Posts: 131
Loc: Bartlett ill.
The libs are gonna cause another civil war in this country, and I'm not kidding!

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#3213294 - 09/25/19 10:28 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GC Offline
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Originally Posted By: IAyoteHNTR
Hears a nice painful truth for some of the members here:

Formal impeachment proceedings are beginning.

ABOUT [beeep] TIME!!! thumbup

Let the deny and deflect responses begin. rolleyes

Have a great day everyone. I know my day is beginning with a bigger smile on my face than usual. smile





Your wailing and gnashing of teeth through a second term for President Trump is going to be so much fun. Bless your heart!
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#3213295 - 09/25/19 10:30 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 3518
Loc: So Cal
This pretty much finishes Biden off. Trump is playing these people. What he says to the President of Ukraine Trump knows will be public transcript. He does not mention money but he knows the Dems would not be able to resist so this forces the spotlight on Biden's corruption the real corruption here. Now the media has to go into Biden's part in all this so he's done. Now the libtard Dems want to make little Lizzy Warren their nominee thinking she could beat Trump these people truly are unhinged. Grizz
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#3213296 - 09/25/19 10:58 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
Tnslim Offline
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Registered: 07/07/09
Posts: 2133
Loc: TN
The problem there is the media will do no such thing as pertains to a Democrat corruption issue. It will be a strictly hands off deal. They would much rather dig into another false lead against President Trump.

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#3213297 - 09/25/19 11:02 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
Plant.One Offline
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Posts: 4141
Loc: Oakland County, MI
Originally Posted By: Stu Farish
Yep, it's not an impeachment. It's not even the start of an impeachment. It's actually nothing different than what was happening last week, just blown up for some new coverage and to motivate their base.

There are constitutionally specified steps to an impeachment & not one has been done yet.



Nasty Pelosi's press event wasnt about impeachment. it was about giving the media their narrative shift they need. nothing more, nothing less.


like you said - legally speaking nothing has changed since last week. Nadler has had an impeachment inquiry going for weeks now, not long after the muller report tanked #RussiaRussiaRussia for them.


but - this gives the media a good solid 48-96 hours to scream #impeach45 and not have to talk about stuff like... MastaBeto himself yelling about confiscating guns. Or the IG report. or the last of the Epstein Pee-Pee-Toucher scandal that wraps into how many politicians and power broker's lives.


and on top of that, its a way for them to get creepy Joe Biden out of the race without going right after him. they know the ukraine mess is a huuuuuge scandal for him. So they'll let the GOP take him down for them by highlighting this nothingburger from a supposed whistle-blower who had no first hand knowledge of the call. how can you blow the whistle about something you heard from a friend who heard from a friend eh?

and by being able to accomplish all that while still screaming how trump is a monster that needs to be impeached... its no shocker the media jumped all over this gift wrapped hysteria.
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#3213298 - 09/25/19 11:33 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 3518
Loc: So Cal
Sure is quite from South East Iowa...
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#3213313 - 09/26/19 08:42 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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If they eventually come up with something real, we get president pence.

I'm fine with that
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#3213326 - 09/26/19 12:14 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
Sure is quite from South East Iowa...


iaNONhntr is a hit-n-run sorta fella. kinda creepy.

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#3213340 - 09/26/19 03:52 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
trapperdoc Online
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Registered: 10/18/02
Posts: 320
Loc: louisa ky.
What is amazing to me is we have the lowest unemployment ever lowest for African Americans, Hispanics, and Asians we are an exporter of oil, decreased border crossings, building the wall, rebuilt the military, raises to the military, and for sure getting started on draining the swamp, tax cuts, I could go on and on, I have never seen anything like this in my lifetime they won't let go of the fact that the hildebeast lost the election I use to dislike the democrat party but now I despise them I would never vote a democrat ticket not even in local elections. They do not like the fact that an outsider won the election and is actually doing what he promised and the promises he made is tearing up their little playhouse it was time we had someone in there for the people of America. So I guess the dumbocrats want to take my earnings away raise my taxes pay off student loans free college to illegals free health care to illegals yet I still have to pay since I have lived here and worked for a living. Rant over

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#3213351 - 09/26/19 06:14 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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Team blue isn't looking very good right now.
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#3213360 - 09/26/19 09:01 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
IAyoteHNTR Offline
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Originally Posted By: IAyoteHNTR
Let the deny and deflect responses begin.


Thanks for not disappointing me guys. thumbup

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#3213363 - 09/26/19 09:50 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 3518
Loc: So Cal
Your welcome Son we aim to please on here but is this all you could come up with? No substance? So disappointing...Hey guess what, Donald Trump is your President.
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#3213364 - 09/26/19 09:53 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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looks like a picture of a democrat who owns guns
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#3213366 - 09/26/19 10:27 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
SixsixtyMags Offline
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Laugh all you want, anyone with half a brain can see that people on the Democratic side that should be investigated for crimes are apparently above the law. This double standard is not good for anyone, and it just confirms that Washington is a swamp.
I was an independent for years, watching the new communist party, that was formally known as the Democratic party, will keep me voting Republican for years to come.
BTW: Beginning impeachment proceedings means nothing, they have wanted this since day 1 when he upset the apple cart by beating queen Hillary, lets see where it goes if it gets to the Senate, I say its DOA!

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#3213369 - 09/26/19 11:03 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GRIZZLYONE Offline
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I'd say your right.
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#3213370 - 09/26/19 11:30 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: SixsixtyMags]
hm1996 Offline
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" the new communist party, that was formally known as the Democratic party, will keep me voting Republican for years to come."

You and a lot of other folks! Even the Democrat politicians are concerned about that.

Regards,
hm
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#3213371 - 09/26/19 11:42 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
64Dodge Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
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Loc: DeKalb Alabama
Democrats and a lot of Republicans are opposite sides of the same coin.
They want more money and more power. Democrats/Communist want to screw
you right now for every thing you have. Some Republicans will at least
tease you with a little fore play to make you feel better about it.

Washington is a modern day Sodom. Do you think God would spare it for
50 righteous men/women or even 10 (Genesis chapter 18)

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#3213406 - 09/27/19 02:46 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: 64Dodge]
Kermit in Va. Offline
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Loc: Va. USA
I think he found another "puppy" and has been rub'in
the hair off like all the rest he's had...lol
Poor puppies...


Kermit

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#3213410 - 09/27/19 03:59 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
I'm not on here much these days so what is it with this guy IAyoteHNTR just waiting around rubbing his hands salivating with his tongue out ready to pounce like a little weasel? Is life that unfulfilling that he feels he has to come on here and attempt to get under peoples skin? This is a hunting forum over all when was the last time he posted anything non political and related to the outdoors?

What this guy may not understand is that 'impeachment' does not mean Trump is thrown out of office. Bill Clinton was impeached he finished his second term and his popularity went up the difference will be that Trump will have accomplish many things during his two terms in office. Already he has done way more for the United States to this point than Clinton and Osama combined. That's the bottom line and that's what the voters will remember when their alone at the polls next year. Besides, this would never make it through the senate even if it was to make it out of the house.

Once William Barr finishes his investigation into the attempted coup, all he11 is going break loose for the Dems and impeachment will be the last thing on their mind. Give it a year IAyoteHNTR then let's see that smile on your face. Regards, Grizz


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#3213412 - 09/27/19 04:21 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
GunBugBit Offline
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This fake impeachment nonsense will go nowhere.

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#3213419 - 09/27/19 06:49 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
Stu Farish Offline
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Gotta love how they allege that trump tried to do what biden has openly bragged about actually doing, but then the transcript of the call simply doesn't say what they claim it does.

[beeep], they put schiff in charge of the intelligence committee. That's like putting a gerbil in charge of a nuclear physics research lab.

and they know he's that stupid so just what does that make them?
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#3213430 - 09/27/19 09:11 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
songdog Offline
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Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 3246
Loc: Elizabeth.Colo.
don't want to change the subject completely, but curious which liberal IAyoteHNTR is looking forward to voting for?
The one that wants to give free health care to all illegal's?
Or the one that wants open borders?
Or the one that wants to increase taxes on us all?
Or the one that wants to forgive all student loan debt?
Or the one that wants to take away all our guns?
Or would you just be happy with any of them, as long as they beat Trump, knowing that all of them are on board for all of the above?
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#3213450 - 09/28/19 08:48 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: songdog]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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Originally Posted By: songdog
don't want to change the subject completely, but curious which liberal IAyoteHNTR is looking forward to voting for?
The one that wants to give free health care to all illegal's?
Or the one that wants open borders?
Or the one that wants to increase taxes on us all?
Or the one that wants to forgive all student loan debt?
Or the one that wants to take away all our guns?
Or would you just be happy with any of them, as long as they beat Trump, knowing that all of them are on board for all of the above?


he would answer yes to the last question.

he doesn't come across as a smart person
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#3213639 - 09/30/19 09:29 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
songdog Offline
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Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 3246
Loc: Elizabeth.Colo.
I guess I'll take the sound of crickets to mean that the OP isn't too thrilled about his choices that remain in the Dem. race.
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#3213645 - 09/30/19 10:23 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
hm1996 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 15270
Loc: S. Texas
Originally Posted By: Stu Farish
Gotta love how they allege that trump tried to do what biden has openly bragged about actually doing, but then the transcript of the call simply doesn't say what they claim it does.

[beeep], they put schiff in charge of the intelligence committee. That's like putting a gerbil in charge of a nuclear physics research lab.

and they know he's that stupid so just what does that make them?


Put your trust in Naddster & Shiffty......They'll come up with something...no matter how long it takes to manufacture produce the evidence.



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#3213691 - 09/30/19 09:05 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: songdog]
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That list was a good observation Songdog..

Whenever I meet a Trump hater, I ask them why they have not been interspective…
I remind them they are more responsible
for Trump winning than I, who voted for him, they sat
back and let the DNC and the "CIA Whore" screw Bernie out of
the nomination, Bernie just might have won...
Then after the election instead of doing some "soul searching", they
cooked up the Russin Collusion B.S., total strawman tactics...


What is happening now is the same as Nov 22 1963, except no bullets, the "press"is the weapon...


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#3213718 - 10/01/19 07:07 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: BAYSTATE YOTE]
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Originally Posted By: BAYSTATE YOTE

What is happening now is the same as Nov 22 1963, except no bullets, the "press"is the weapon...


It sure seems like a state run media anymore that is controlled by the Democrats. Pretty soon we will need something like radio free America broadcast from another country to get the truth if this keeps up.



Edited by SixsixtyMags (10/01/19 07:07 AM)

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#3213761 - 10/01/19 01:36 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: SixsixtyMags]
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Originally Posted By: SixsixtyMags


It sure seems like a state run media anymore that is controlled by the Democrats. Pretty soon we will need something like radio free America broadcast from another country to get the truth if this keeps up.



i think you have the order backwards... it seems more to me like a compliant Democrat party being controlled by a statist run media.

but thats splitting hairs for the most part.
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#3213806 - 10/01/19 08:11 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Plant.One]
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Yes, Plant, you have it correct, World bankers control our CIA, the CIA controls our media, and the "Mocking Bird" media, controls the Democrats, Bureaucrats, and the Republicans, all being bribed or blackmailed...

Why have the Republicans in the Senate, who control all the committees not issued even one subpoena??
The Dems did not win the house last year, Paul Ryan single handedly handed the house to the Democrats.

Paul Ryan and Jeff Sessions kept a lid on the Wasserman/Awan scandal that would have rocked Washington with National security implications and corruption of thirty Democrats who would have lost their seats if it all came out.
We cant blame Nancy Pelosi, she is just doing what Democrats do...
Blame Ryan and Cocaine Mitch...
Trump is alone, well except for all of us, but he has no one he can depend on..


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#3213875 - 10/02/19 03:16 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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So, Hillary makes an appearance on a Sunday morning show supposedly to talk up a new book, but of course didn’t dare miss an opportunity to wave the sore loser flag & cry baby about the election, slam THE PRESIDENT , & jump on board the impeachment investigation train. Her comments included that things happened during the election that won’t happen again - whatever that means in hindsight 2x losing candidate speak,..... Trump knows he’s an illegitimate President- but he IS the PRESIDENT that voters chose, ...... and an impeachment inquiry is exactly what should be done- yea, whatever & so much crap & fallout will result from it that some talking heads opine that Trump almost welcomes it. Oh, about that book, not sure what it was!


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#3213936 - 10/03/19 12:22 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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as much as i blame paul ryan... we also had a bunch of rino's and never trumpers resign. so instead of running incumbents - we had a bunch of no-name recognition folks going against each other.

so when you have 26 people retire/resign - which also happens to be the 2nd highest number in my lifetime after '08 - its not shocking you lose the house. which is more than enough to cover the control of the house with seats left over to spare.
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#3213938 - 10/03/19 01:05 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: BAYSTATE YOTE]
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Originally Posted By: BAYSTATE YOTE

Why have the Republicans in the Senate, who control all the committees not issued even one subpoena??
Trump is alone, well except for all of us, but he has no one he can depend on..


I was wondering the same, where are all the investigations that they should be looking into. The swamp is not just blue, there is a lot of red in there also.
IMO, they are sending a clear message to the next outsider who wants to be POTUS----don't rock the boat, this could be you!

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#3213950 - 10/03/19 02:49 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Trump created most of his own problems. He surrounded himself with people that have no idea of how the government works. The call to the Ukraine, if he was advised not to do so, he made it anyway, if he wasn't advised, it was because his advisors were ignorant of the repercussions. The Stormy Daniels Show, this one should be made into a movie, it will be a box office hit. Again, he and his attorney escalated it from a sexual affair to a political show. The Russian collusion, if you talk to a Russian agent, there is a good chance some US government agents will be listening in. Little Donald is an idiot for meeting with the Russian attorney. Really just ignorance on his part, but a blooming idiot when it comes to being exposed in politics.

There are 435 members in the House and Senate, if you whizz on one of their parades, you can bet your cooperation will take a trip down river without a paddle. Trump has saw fit not to only insult most of the Democrats, but also members of his own Party. That makes for good results from his supporters, but alienates the people he needs to get things done.

Why are so many Republicans taking the retirement option instead of running for reelection? 6 members of the House in Texas are stepping down. Cruz won by less than 1 percent against the clown from El Paso. He should have had a 5 or 6 percent victory lead, that less than 1 percent was a wakeup call.
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#3213954 - 10/03/19 03:20 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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every time an ally country's world leader gets elected its common for the president to make a congratulatory call. thats the opening line of the transcript - unless you're reading a different one than the rest of us are.... you hanging out with adam #peiceOfSchliff again?


the US also has a corruption investigation treaty in place with ukraine.

trump never asked for dirt on biden, he asked to investigate CROWDSTRIKE - meaning he was looking for assistance into the 2016 meddling. he also asked to get to the bottom of why the prosecutor investigating biden and his son was 86'ed. no where does he ask for "dirt" on anyone. he's furthering the ongoing corruption investigation that barr and the AG has been running for a long while now.


so what it seems you - and most of the left - are suggesting is that all a person needs to do to avoid a corruption investigation is to run for political office against the president and then they're untouchable?



why dont we have a right to investigate corruption like that? if he's using his son to take payoff's in ukraine and china... that sounds like the kind of thing people need to know about a presidential candidate.

just like we still need to know about bill and the clinton foundation taking millions while hillary was Sec-state.


most corruption free presidential term in history lol.... the obama presidency might well go down as one of the MOST corrupt presidency's in history when you add all this [beeep] onto the spygate stuff.
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#3214256 - 10/06/19 07:32 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Sheesh..... Are the Dems really gonna DO ANYTHING with some substance on this deal? They've got themselves all fired up again but again it seems the only the only thing of substance so far that's been done is to get all the Trump haters revved up. It seems to me they just keep throwing stuff out there to see if any of sticks.

According to IAyoteHTR this was supposed to have been the real deal and here we are almost 2 weeks later with more nothingburger on the plate. TDS really makes folks do strange things; I hope we can get Trump another term and maybe that will help cure all those suffering from it.

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#3214259 - 10/06/19 08:08 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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I'm just waiting for the dems to take any actual steps towards impeachment. So far they have not.

These committees have little actual power, they are not issuing legal subpoenas, all of this is just a bunch of show [beeep] with nothing behind it.

It amounts to a PR stunt, likely intended to try & drum up public support for impeachment. Which may end up working, given the media support provided to them.
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#3214263 - 10/06/19 08:27 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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I'm in agreement with you on that, Stu. So far just smoke and mirrors.....

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#3214265 - 10/06/19 08:40 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: obaro]
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The outcome of any investigations or proceedings is far less important than who actually shows up to VOTE next year.

Do your part to encourage everyone you know to vote!


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#3214267 - 10/06/19 08:47 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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If the Dems really had anything wouldn't they play it asap.

What would be good for the country never enters their mind.
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#3214314 - 10/07/19 07:42 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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I'm a [beeep] or get off the pot kind of guy. I've said for a long time now, either get on with trying to impeach him -for realz, not this crap- or just shut the [beeep] up about it. We've been listening to you go on about it since he won the election, so just pick one and do it.
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#3214334 - 10/07/19 11:10 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
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Originally Posted By: Stu Farish
I'm just waiting for the dems to take any actual steps towards impeachment. So far they have not.

These committees have little actual power, they are not issuing legal subpoenas, all of this is just a bunch of show [beeep] with nothing behind it.

It amounts to a PR stunt, likely intended to try & drum up public support for impeachment. Which may end up working, given the media support provided to them.


sadly... when the mASSES hear the same story over and over on almost every channel and print source they go to... they tend to believe it.

its a classic case of gas-lighting on a scale rarely attempted in history. and thankfully it appears, at least slowly, to be starting to backfire.



the only benefit to the left, or i guess i should say the primary benefit to them anyway, is that by keeping this locked in comittee "investigations" is they can give the appearance of doing something while preventing the GOP from really fighting back. They can also give the appearance of obstruction - their second favorite anti-trump goto - which is why they're not offically sending out subpeona's and just using these leters that have no teeth saying "you really should come in and prostrate yourself before us" and "give up your power and hand over all your documents"

if it werent for the media cover - this whole thing would be an absolute nothingburger (which is really is, but they wont tell you that)
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#3214350 - 10/07/19 01:02 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Plant.One]
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Quote:
if it werent for the media cover - this whole thing would be an absolute nothingburger (which is really is, but they wont tell you that)
because they know they can't, because as of right now they have no real candidate that can beat Trump, so the only way to get rid of him is to do it before the election.

Even our own IAyoteHNTR can't get behind any of the Dem. candidates, and that is their problem. No one to beat Trump so get rid of him some way, any way, they can find.
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#3214506 - 10/08/19 08:20 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Impeach everyone & get it over with. All of them. We'll end up with a janitor somewhere taking the office but why the [beeep] not?

to quote someone, at this point in time what difference does it make?
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#3214558 - 10/09/19 05:50 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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I see no better replacement. I see the media's smoke and mirrors with RINO a liberal sheep staring blindly. I think this is a stupid post.

On other issues, part of me says that part of the world has always been on fire, get out and watch it burn. But the pesh are getting a bad deal and he is taking credit for all they gave. If my memory serves me correctly it was the SDF that took down ISIS flags over Raqqa, not American boots.

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A Betrayal Too Far
by RICHARD NORTH PATTERSON OCTOBER 9, 2019

Nothing captures the moral and geopolitical bankruptcy of Donald Trump’s Hobbesian worldview better than his rank betrayal of the Kurds.

Once more, Turkey’s President Erdogan—a knave, but not a fool—demonstrated his hypnotic powers over an American president who is both. Without warning, the White House approved Turkey’s plan to invade territory in northern Syria held by the Kurds, America’s one indispensable ally on the ground in the fight against ISIS. The administration’s announcement of betrayal was bald and explicit: “Turkey will soon be moving forward with its long-planned operation into Northern Syria. The United States Armed Forces . . . having defeated the ISIS territorial ‘Caliphate,’ will no longer be in the immediate area.”

Trump’s abrupt and stunning act of dereliction startled everyone he should have consulted beforehand: our State Department, Pentagon, intelligence community, allies, key members of Congress—and the Kurds themselves. He discussed this only with the Turkey’s authoritarian, who is determined to quash a fighting force tied to Kurdish insurgents inside Turkey. In acceding to Turkish aggression on the basis of a single phone call from a crafty autocrat, Trump contemptuously ignored all advice, and abandoned a painstaking American diplomatic effort to work out an accommodation which would satisfy Turkey’s demands for border security.

Even the normally supine Republicans in the House and Senate seem sickened.

Worse, Trump paraded his strategic stupidity and precipitous treachery in all their solitary splendor. Prior to proclaiming “my great and unmatched wisdom” in mastering the situation unassisted, he remonstrated that the Kurds had been “paid massive amounts of money and equipment” to fight a brutal terrorist regime which—he failed to add—American forces could not subdue alone. With ISIS thus quelled, Trump decided it was time for America to bail out of Syria and leave “Turkey, Europe, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Russia and the Kurds . . . to figure the situation out.”

America was through, he proudly concluded, with being played for a “sucker.”

The Kurds might beg to differ. By abandoning them, Trump has left the Kurds in a killing zone between Turkey and a genocidal Syrian regime which they must now embrace at the risk of obliteration.

But perhaps the biggest sucker is Trump himself, manipulated by a self-serving authoritarian into punishing vulnerable allies who believed that America would stand behind them—and who continue to be critical in containing an ISIS threat that could well reconstitute in the wake of Trump’s incompetence.

Erdogan, the New York Times reports, perceived that he could exploit a division between Trump and his military advisors, who wanted a residual force of American troops in Syria to serve as a safeguard for the Kurds, and against ISIS. Their reasons were compelling: according to the New York Times, ISIS still has 18,000 fighters spread across Iraq and Syria, many active in carrying out terrorist operations. Moreover, America has assigned the Kurds responsibility for supervising tens of thousands of captured ISIS members and their families currently in custody.

No more. As if the Middle East was a Monopoly board, Trump has given ISIS a “get out of jail free card.” A Kurdish official told NBC news: “The Americans are traitors. They have abandoned us to a Turkish massacre. We can no longer fight against ISIS and have to defend ourselves. This could allow ISIS to return to the region.”

Brett McGurk, formerly a principal American strategist in Syria, was equally appalled: “This looks to be another reckless decision made without deliberation or consultation following a call with a foreign leader. The White House statement bears no relation to facts on the ground. If implemented, it will significantly increase risks to our personnel, as well as hasten ISIS’s resurgence.”...

The greatest tragedy, however, is how deeply Trump has invested American foreign policy with the solipsistic inhumanity of a leader who cares for nothing and no one but himself.

Not his country. Nor its allies. Nor the thousands of human beings who stand to be slaughtered by the Turks and, in time, by ISIS.

God help America—and the world that Trump, acting in our name, is abandoning to its most malignant actors.

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#3214664 - 10/11/19 07:46 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
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Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnot
Originally Posted By: songdog
don't want to change the subject completely, but curious which liberal IAyoteHNTR is looking forward to voting for?
The one that wants to give free health care to all illegal's?
Or the one that wants open borders?
Or the one that wants to increase taxes on us all?
Or the one that wants to forgive all student loan debt?
Or the one that wants to take away all our guns?
Or would you just be happy with any of them, as long as they beat Trump, knowing that all of them are on board for all of the above?


he would answer yes to the last question.

he doesn't come across as a smart person
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Actually my answer is a resounding NO.

I have seen most of the responses here (a few guys I have blocked because I can't handle the extreme stupidity I see from them constantly) and my lack of response is simply due to the fact I know I won't influence most if not all of you guys responding in here. So be it,......I don't care.

Just to set the record straight for some...... 1st off, I am currently a registered Republican. Surprise, surprise huh? But I consider myself more of a Reagan era Republican. What the Republican party has slowly become since then personally disgusts me. Don't like my assessment? Again, ....... I don't care.

I now consider the Libertarian party to be more closely aligned with my political compass than the Republican party and that's how I voted in the last election and probably will in the next one unless Trump is gone and the Republican party comes back to it's senses and puts a moderate Republican on the ballot, which I don't see happening, but you never know what may happen at this point. Time will tell I guess.

Yes I despise Trump and I always will. I know exactly what he is. He's a self serving mentally unfit narcissist con man who looks out for his own best interests first and foremost and will tell his sheep, his base, whatever they want to hear if he thinks it will please them and they have shown him it is working great so far.

As far as the impeachment process itself......it's gaining momentum and public support for good reason.

I'll end this with one last tidbit...... As far as I'm concerned Trump is destroying the Republican party for the future and too many Republicans are blind to it or too scared too stand up to it. The younger generations who will be voting in the next several elections are by far and away leaning Democrat by a margin of over 2 to 1 for a reason and this should scare all of us and the only way I see this changing is by changing the leadership within the Republican party and returning it to what it was. This is just my opinion of course and whether any of you agree or not, you have got to admit things are changing and unless the Republican party adjusts to these obvious changes, they will die a slow death as a party.

I won't be responding again in this thread, but I'll stop in and see what wisdom some of you think you have for the comedic value if nothing else. I may start a new post after we see where the impeachment goes, which I hope ends up with the first official impeachment/removal of Trump. thumbup1


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#3214689 - 10/11/19 12:37 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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couple things.

at best right now... the only chance the left has for an impeachment is to catch trump in a process crime - their favorite of which is of course obstruction. I dont think the folks around him will allow that (his legal team, etc)... but its the only solid possibility. they sure are doing their best to set an obstruction trap for him.

if they had *anything* solid we'd already have a vote on the house floor to start a formal impeachment like precedent requires. All you have right now is smoke and mirrors behind closed doors hoping for a miracle. and the left knows it and knows they dont have the votes to bring it to the floor for a formal process.






just because a couple of poorly sampled polls - and a leftist compliant media - say impeachment is becoming more popular... just remember the polls said hillary had a >93% chance of winning up until around 8pm on election night. save the 'but fox news' stuff... they're owned by disney now. yes they still provide viewpoints from both sides of the isle... but the disney influence is showing itself more and more and unless they change the way they're heading.. it will be the downfall of the outlet.




if you're really a regan republican - why the [beeep] would you want a moderate (squishy) republican as the next candidate? thats plaids and stripes.. the two done mix. President Regan was *anything* but a moderate.



finally - trump isnt destroying the republican party - the party is (and has been doing its damnedest) destroying itself. If anything he's managed to achieve more of the things the GOP has said its stood for (but never accomplished) than the rest of the GOP has since regan. So while the GOP may not be killing itself as quickly and surely as the DNC is right now... but the middle of the road RINO's along with many of the old guard who are just there to hold onto their little fiefdom are killing the party just as surely as the left wing of the DNC is to theirs - just closer to a death of 1000 cuts thing than driving off a bridge like the left is right now.
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#3214811 - 10/13/19 08:49 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: Plant.One]
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.....if they had *anything* solid we'd already have a vote on the house floor to start a formal impeachment like precedent requires. All you have right now is smoke and mirrors behind closed doors hoping for a miracle.


I tend to agree. When was the last time you heard on the news Mueller mentioned. The Dims tried to uncork a report that was supposed to be the end of it and make it something that it wasn’t. So, on to something else, impeachment. They’ll dig every piece of fake dirt from anywhere, feed it to the media, and claim that it’s the coffin nail evidence. The ambassador lady who recently testified is nothing more than a political pawn. In the real world people are admonished, reassigned, transferred, etc all the time by management simply because of a dislike, poor performance, or from not being a team player and the management decision is not illegal (barring any true, unlawful discriminatory actions). It may not be right in the spirit of fairness but in the corporate world fairness doesn’t result from policy.

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#3214928 - 10/14/19 12:04 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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the sad part is, as this whole "whistleblower scandal" falls apart, the media will just pivot onto the next planned narrative rollout.

remember - they said a while back that the whole left was going to go "all in" to make sure he wasnt re-elected. this peticualar scandal is just one taste of their version of "all in" i'm sure.
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#3214971 - 10/14/19 08:37 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Plant.One]
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Everything the dems say they want to investigate about the Trump campaign/administration, is in reality what they have already done. From DNC servers and hacks in Ukraine, to candidates paying for falsely presented information and interference in our elections (Hillary).
Follow Ukraine money
Obama campaign
Biden-son
Pelosi-son
Kerry- son
Trump knows all of this, as he drains the swamp bigger pieces of [beeep] will stick more fingers in the dam. This is a game politicians think they are good at but they are playing checkers in a chess game.


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#3214974 - 10/14/19 08:54 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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all you really need to know is the fact that they're holding these hearing in secret & excluding republicans.

they won't let you see, hear or know what's being asked & answered.
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#3215025 - 10/15/19 11:51 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
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Originally Posted By: Stu Farish
all you really need to know is the fact that they're holding these hearing in secret & excluding republicans.

they won't let you see, hear or know what's being asked & answered.


except for what they selectively leak to the media to make POTUS look bad.

but thats what happens when a peiceOfSchliff is running your committee.
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#3215136 - 10/16/19 09:53 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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the reality is, at this point, after the next election this country is either going to go sliding down the socialism rat hole, or we're going to have 4 more years of Trump. Those are your two choices IAyoteHNTR. Take it or leave it.

Maybe if you're lucky Hillary will throw her hat back in the ring and try again and you'll get what you seem to want, which is, ANYTHING BUT TRUMP...be careful what you wish for.
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#3215145 - 10/16/19 12:16 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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This BS is already starting to backfire on them. I bet Polosi wish's she kept her stiff trap shut.
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#3215148 - 10/16/19 12:54 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
This BS is already starting to backfire on them. I bet Polosi wish's she kept her stiff trap shut.


actually i bet its more she wishes she could keep some other peoples traps shut.


she was not pro impeachment from the start, had to conceeed to her whackos for a minute and then of course backtracked to "there will be no vote"

she knows just how damaging an impeachment process is going into an election year. [beeep] her party had the most recent a president impeached, and then slick willy proceeded to commandingly win his 2nd term win and left office with a what >60% approval rating...


but thats also why its been such "rush rush rush rush!" whenever it comes up... they konw if they cant get him removed from office quick, giving him that platform to energize his base next year during the full election cycle is political suicide for them.
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#3215278 - 10/17/19 04:20 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Mulvaney's assertion today that there was a bit of 'quid quo pro' with respect to Ukraine is just Trump's way of telling the Dems to stick it, egging them on to take a formal impeachment vote in the House knowing full well they don't want to. Trump knows they probably wish they didn't go down this road now. Mulvaney coming out with this now was not a slip of the tongue, this is a planned strategy calling their bluff. Grizz
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#3215354 - 10/18/19 01:22 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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ya... an actual vote... its a lose-lose-lose thing for them


if she even has the votes - which she probably doesnt - she knows that its a dead deal in the senate. The senate side that actually removes a president isnt just a simple majority. there's no way in [beeep] right now that enough nevertrumpers will join with the DNC senators to actually remove him.

if she doesnt have the actual votes, putting it on the house floor and having it go down in flames - even by just a vote or two - takes 110% of the wind out of their sails.

if she has the votes and actually were to put it on the house floor successfully - she's now forcing folks who won seats in swing districts that trump beat hillary in - some of which were by a significant margin - to have to defend those votes during an election cycle.





the only "winning" scenario for the left - at least right now - is keeping this locked in committee where they can control the media narrative and be seen fighting against #orangeManBad and being opposed by the complicit bullies in the GOP. it also allows them to leak stuff, or setup more "whistleblowers", etc to try anything they can to damage POTUS in the coming election cycle.

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#3215366 - 10/18/19 02:39 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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If they keep it floundering in committee Trump will pound that into the ground saying this is all they know, this is all they have done, this is all they have. Trump will pound this home when the election heats up. I honestly think the Dem's just screwed themselves with this and they know it.
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#3215721 - 10/21/19 09:47 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Pelosi knew it was committing political suicide and that's why she fought it for so long. I don't know if her stupidity finally got the best of her or if she knew they didn't have a chance anyway.
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#3215788 - 10/21/19 09:31 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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duplicate


Edited by LUCKYDOG (10/21/19 09:32 PM)
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#3216025 - 10/24/19 10:27 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Ain't herd from our boy 'IAyoteHNTR' in a while. You know this is like sitting around a campfire with old friends with one cricket squealing in the backround... Maybe the cricket died? Grizz
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#3216156 - 10/25/19 11:08 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
Ain't herd from our boy 'IAyoteHNTR' in a while. You know this is like sitting around a campfire with old friends with one cricket squealing in the backround... Maybe the cricket died? Grizz


You obviously didn't read (or maybe couldn't comprehend) my last response. Imagine that.

I have too good a life to worry much about what anyone in here thinks.


Edited by IAyoteHNTR (10/25/19 11:08 AM)
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#3216171 - 10/25/19 01:08 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Originally Posted By: IAyoteHNTR


I have too good a life to worry much about what anyone in here thinks.


yet here you are, one post and barely 24 hours after you were mentioned by name.

#justsayin
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#3216190 - 10/25/19 05:18 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Trump just freaking kills me. He has out smarted the Dem's at every turn. Never in their wildest dreams did they think he would release the transcript of his phone conversation with the President of Ukraine. The Dem's were betting/counting on Trump to claim Executive privilege not releasing these transcripts so they could claim he was 'hiding something' and so they could continue to lie and spin it all to he11. He gave them nowhere to go. He's always a few steps ahead. I bet these a holes wish they never went down this impeachment road I think now they realize they just screwed themselves.

IAyoteHNTR happy to hear you have a good life bud we all want nothing but the best for you bruddah Mahalo, Grizz
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#3216198 - 10/25/19 07:04 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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someone let me know when the house is allowed to vote to have an actual impeachment inquiry. asking for a friend.
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#3216382 - 10/27/19 01:15 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
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house impeachment vote? hahahahahahaah thats funny

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#3217500 - 11/07/19 07:44 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
Trump just freaking kills me. He has out smarted the Dem's at every turn. Never in their wildest dreams did they think he would release the transcript of his phone conversation with the President of Ukraine. The Dem's were betting/counting on Trump to claim Executive privilege not releasing these transcripts so they could claim he was 'hiding something' and so they could continue to lie and spin it all to he11. He gave them nowhere to go. He's always a few steps ahead. I bet these a holes wish they never went down this impeachment road I think now they realize they just screwed themselves.

IAyoteHNTR happy to hear you have a good life bud we all want nothing but the best for you bruddah Mahalo, Grizz


No "spin" needed at this point. The real truth and the facts (not those "alternative facts" the GOP loves to push) are coming out and will be on full display for everyone to see. The transcript wasn't complete and was a clear attempt at covering up the truth. The Quid Pro Quo is now well established by multiple people. The impeachment process is continuing at full steam as it should. Trump outsmarted the Dems huh? That's a good one. lol
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#3217506 - 11/07/19 09:32 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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#3217510 - 11/07/19 10:39 AM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Originally Posted By: IAyoteHNTR
Trump outsmarted the Dems huh? That's a good one. lol


Everyone that is not a total moron can outsmart a dumbocrat. Why do you think they always pander to the very most stupid people out there for? Is that how they got you?
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#3217527 - 11/07/19 03:41 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Quid pro quo is so last week. Not an issue any more.

Let me know when they have an actual vote on impeachment proceedings. They haven't done that yet.
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#3217530 - 11/07/19 04:03 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: Stu Farish]
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You can always tell a Dimocrat, you just can't tell them much!

If this doesn't prove the Dims had planned to nullify the election from the get-go, nothing will.

'Coup has started,' whistle...eachment

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#3217536 - 11/07/19 04:37 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Alternative facts have been the nature of US politics since the founding. My question to you MR Iowa is what type of nation do you really want to live in? One govern by the likes of Trump? Or one govern by Pelosi, Schumer, and their ilk?

You claim your a big "second amendment, first amendment fan" you do realize that the far left, and make no mistake about it the Democratic party of today has been hijacked by the extreme left would do if they had their way you could kiss our second amendment rights good by along with your hunting privileges. That's for sure and that's for certain. And as far as the first amendment well, the left today has already demonstrated what they do with anyone who doesn't agree with them.

So you tell us MR Iowa we all here want to know exactly what type of nation you want to live in you cant have it both ways. Lets hear it.
Time to put up or shut up IAyoteHNTR.
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#3217537 - 11/07/19 04:46 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Alternative facts have been the nature of US politics since the founding. My question to you MR Iowa is what type of nation do you really want to live in? One govern by the likes of Trump? Or one govern by Plosi, Schumer, and their ilk?

You claim your a big "second amendment, first amendment fan" you do realize that the far left, and make no mistake about it the Democratic party of today has been hijacked by the extreme left would do if they had their way you could kiss our second amendment rights good by along with your hunting privileges. That's for sure and that's for certain. And as far as the first amendment well, the left today has already demonstrated what they do with anyone who doesn't agree with them.

So you tell us MR Iowa we all here want to know exactly what type of nation you want to live in you cant have it both ways. Lets hear it. Time to put up or shut up IAyoteHNTR.


Hear, hear! Please enlighten us.

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#3217559 - 11/07/19 09:37 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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This.
https://youtu.be/NycT4Q6UtQo

And Santa is coming in 48 days!
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#3218271 - Yesterday at 12:39 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Not looking good for team blue right now
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#3218293 - Yesterday at 06:10 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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I'd say team red and Pvt. Bonespurs are grasping straws.

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#3218318 - Yesterday at 08:50 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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I'd say team red and Pvt. Bonespurs are grasping straws.


Yep, that's very obvious. Their points of defense are ridiculous at best and things are just starting to get heated up. Kind of funny to watch I must say.
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#3218321 - Yesterday at 08:59 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Alternative facts have been the nature of US politics since the founding. My question to you MR Iowa is what type of nation do you really want to live in? One govern by the likes of Trump? Or one govern by Pelosi, Schumer, and their ilk?

You claim your a big "second amendment, first amendment fan" you do realize that the far left, and make no mistake about it the Democratic party of today has been hijacked by the extreme left would do if they had their way you could kiss our second amendment rights good by along with your hunting privileges. That's for sure and that's for certain. And as far as the first amendment well, the left today has already demonstrated what they do with anyone who doesn't agree with them.

So you tell us MR Iowa we all here want to know exactly what type of nation you want to live in you cant have it both ways. Lets hear it.
Time to put up or shut up IAyoteHNTR.

Hey! he's back. Should have known IAyoteHNTR would not answer the above question. Your Impeachment fantasy is over son.
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#3218323 - Yesterday at 09:02 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: GRIZZLYONE]
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Originally Posted By: GRIZZLYONE
Alternative facts have been the nature of US politics since the founding. My question to you MR Iowa is what type of nation do you really want to live in? One govern by the likes of Trump? Or one govern by Pelosi, Schumer, and their ilk?

You claim your a big "second amendment, first amendment fan" you do realize that the far left, and make no mistake about it the Democratic party of today has been hijacked by the extreme left would do if they had their way you could kiss our second amendment rights good by along with your hunting privileges. That's for sure and that's for certain. And as far as the first amendment well, the left today has already demonstrated what they do with anyone who doesn't agree with them.

So you tell us MR Iowa we all here want to know exactly what type of nation you want to live in you cant have it both ways. Lets hear it.
Time to put up or shut up IAyoteHNTR.

Hey! he's back. Should have known IAyoteHNTR would not answer the above question.


Actually I have clearly answered it in past posts but maybe you're not intelligent enough to understand what I was saying? Don't know, don't care. Have a great day.
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#3218324 - Yesterday at 09:08 PM Re: Impeachment [Re: IAyoteHNTR]
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Typical Lib, when his position is challenged and he has no answer he makes it personal...Actually...
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