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#3212383 - 09/13/19 06:27 PM Govt. Buy Back?
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IF IF IF a bill passed for Govt. Buy Back of AR's and AK style rifles, how much are they going to pay? I have had and know a bunch of you still have high end rifles costing a lot more that an off the shelf cheapo rifle. Will they offer a fraction of what they are worth? Its total crap that the good guy is always the one that suffers but what if?
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#3212384 - 09/13/19 06:31 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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they can't buy anything back from me. none of my guns were ever owned by the government.
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#3212386 - 09/13/19 06:33 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Mine either
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#3212422 - 09/14/19 10:43 AM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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I have a few that I've bought over the years, and as psycodog mentioned , How much will they be willing to pay ,if the price is right I'd sell em . ain't got much use for them except to plink with , if I'm going big game hunting I'd rather have a large caliber bolt action .One well placed shot and the hunts over .

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#3212425 - 09/14/19 11:01 AM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: suprsongdgslyr]
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Originally Posted By: suprsongdgslyr
I have a few that I've bought over the years, and as psycodog mentioned , How much will they be willing to pay ,if the price is right I'd sell em . ain't got much use for them except to plink with , if I'm going big game hunting I'd rather have a large caliber bolt action .One well placed shot and the hunts over .


Their divide and conquer method works.
There are many among us that will give up anything as long as its not their favorite. What happens when they come for the "sniper rifles", which are nothing more than a hunting rifle?

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#3212440 - 09/14/19 03:26 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: 6724]
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Face it, they are after all guns, they just need to start somewhere and then go from one type to the next.
I agree with the "sniper rifle" comment, I just hope that suprsongdgslyr is proficient with a flintlock which they may leave us own.
According to his own post, one well placed shot and the hunts over, yup, between a flintlock and a bow you should have no problem having a successful hunt, no need what so ever for those high powered scoped sniper rifles!
BTW: I shot a deer the last 2 yrs. with a flintlock, If I can do it anyone can, just hope you don't flinch! laugh

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#3212442 - 09/14/19 03:54 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Non issue.
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#3212448 - 09/14/19 05:14 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Yep. One well placed shot, hunt was over. With an AR:






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#3212450 - 09/14/19 05:55 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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#3212451 - 09/14/19 06:02 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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#3212452 - 09/14/19 06:12 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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give up your semi auto's and you have handed over all grounds for not giving up anything else. once that precedent is set they will use it to justify the next class of guns they want to ban.

and since banning these is ok, so is the next one. and the next and the next and the next.
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#3212458 - 09/14/19 08:26 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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They are starting to get on my nerves with this stuff.I can put up with a lot of stupid but this is getting ridiculous.

I reckon they are not going to quit till they destroy the best place to live the world has ever had.
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#3212475 - 09/14/19 11:42 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: tnshootist]
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Beto sent me.

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#3212508 - 09/15/19 05:12 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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First off, I don't think it will ever happen. To many gun owners on both sides of the fence. Not saying they won't make things rough or at least try to but I just think a buy back or confiscation will be hard to pass. Maybe some stupid high tax on firearms and ammo or a license of some sort, maybe a longer waiting period.

I think Beto just signed his ticket home with his comment. Taking guns away from Texans...good luck with that.


Edited by pyscodog (09/15/19 05:12 PM)
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#3212509 - 09/15/19 05:23 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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the dems want to. every one of them who's been in on these 3 debates *wants* to, but they mostly won't admit it.

biden did. beta is flat out being demanding and rude about it. and the othe dems are pissed at him because you are not supposed to say that you intend to take away anyone's guns, period

they keep pretending that's not what they intend to do, while just waiting for things to align so they can in fact do it. in the meantime we're supposed to be stupid enough to believe that "no one wants to take your guns", despite a rather lengthy history of a bunch of them saying exactly that.

but until now, the ones saying it have not been running for the presidency.
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#3212516 - 09/15/19 07:34 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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#3212529 - 09/15/19 08:30 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Politicians and the elite class have always been afraid of the common man. The working class. The common working man who is capable of bearing arms is their only real fear.
The working mans ability to bear arms is the ONLY thing that keeps him from being a total slave.

The Founders wanted those who came after to be free. Thats why they wrote the 2nd. Thats why we will keep our arms. Period.
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#3212536 - 09/15/19 10:16 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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If a law ever does pass on the selected weapons and it goes through the courts and you get caught with an illegal weapon, what will happen??? If the charge is a felony, you might lose your rights for all of the weapons except the basic black powder weapons. I don't see it failing in the courts, the Clinton moratorium on AR's and etc. passed the court test, also quite a few local and state law cases have passed the tests in court. Never checked, but hasn't the California gun restrictions been tested in the courts?

I would think that would be the ultimate goal of the anti gun crowd.
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#3212537 - 09/15/19 10:25 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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the clinton ban was never taken to court.
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#3212541 - 09/15/19 11:21 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42957.pdf

Quote:
Legal Challenges to the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban
The Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 was unsuccessfully challenged as violating several constitutional provisions. While arguments that the act constituted an impermissible Bill of Attainder,42 is unconstitutionally vague,43 and is contrary to the Ninth Amendment44 were readily dismissed by the courts, challenges to the ban based on the Commerce Clause and the Equal Protection Clause received more measured consideration.
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#3212611 - 09/16/19 10:24 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Originally Posted By: pyscodog
First off, I don't think it will ever happen. To many gun owners on both sides of the fence. Not saying they won't make things rough or at least try to but I just think a buy back or confiscation will be hard to pass. Maybe some stupid high tax on firearms and ammo or a license of some sort, maybe a longer waiting period.

I think Beto just signed his ticket home with his comment. Taking guns away from Texans...good luck with that.


I tend to agree with your thinking and hopefully this second time loser will soon have his one way, go home bus ticket issued soon. His blunt “[beeep] yes...” comment probably will work against him and the gun control crowd. There are too many good, common sense, blue state, gun owning moderates that would staunchly oppose any such forceful action.


Edited by Wood Smoke II (09/16/19 10:27 PM)

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#3212612 - 09/16/19 10:41 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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the only thing the dems have complained about on this is how it doesn't help them politically.

not one -think that over, not a single ONE- has had any objection to this as any sort of violation of our rights.

just that it hurts them get what they want politically.
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#3212613 - 09/16/19 10:50 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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#3212614 - 09/16/19 10:51 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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#3212619 - 09/17/19 12:33 AM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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First off, it would be illegal to sell guns to our government as they couldn't pass the background check.

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#3212626 - 09/17/19 07:46 AM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: Tnslim]
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OK so where is the money for the buy back going to come from?
From Social security
from Government housing
From the border wall fund
From National security

OH I get it, They'll just borrow some more from China.

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#3212668 - 09/17/19 09:01 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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I don't think beta could pass a background check to buy a gun. after all he has -at least- a DUI and leaving the scene of an accident on his record.
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#3212719 - 09/18/19 03:36 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: Stu Farish]
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Originally Posted By: Stu Farish
I don't think beta could pass a background check to buy a gun. after all he has -at least- a DUI and leaving the scene of an accident on his record.


https://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme...-prevent-him-p/
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#3212730 - 09/18/19 06:13 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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might be correct, but it is politifact so it's suspect.

he still can't have my [beeep] guns
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#3213220 - 09/25/19 12:26 AM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Don't think it can't happen. My great grandfather was a liquor distributor nearly ruined by prohibition. They are getting better at the "divide and conquer" all the time. We all need to back each other up, and its time to call out those that don't. I get so ticked off at shooters whose interest ends at their chosen sport. I'm a walnut and steel guy, don't own an AR, but I'm smart enough to know if I give up my brothers and my friends they'll scoop up my Win 07, Rem 8 and 81, Auto 5, and my "MSR" Rem 7400. This reminds me so much of the 70's and the "Saturday night Special" BS, and it was the same then, complacency. Compromise will only give us less, we can win this, but it takes hard choices and $$. I told an old friend that's my Alamo, I only hunt with NRA members, don't tell me about phone calls or letters asking for money, just belong. I didn't loose a friend, he did. If even half the gun owners belonged for a four year political cycle we'd be unbeatable. Sorry for the rant.

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#3214018 - 10/04/19 12:00 AM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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There would be no buy back. There will be no door kickers taking your guns. They'll simply pass a law that includes a provision defining any household with the targeted firearms as unsafe. Then they'll grab your kids while they're at school or soccer or wherever and hold them in protective custody until you relinquish the items that make your household unfit for child habitation. Or they'll freeze all your assets and stop your ability to do any kind of personal or professional business, and only offer your financial freedom back when you comply. Or, well, you get the picture. There is no need for violence in today's technological world.
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#3214232 - 10/06/19 12:13 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: DesertRam]
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there is an excellent chance that is exactly how they would do it ..

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#3214272 - 10/06/19 09:13 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: Stu Farish]
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Originally Posted By: Stu Farish
Yep. One well placed shot, hunt was over. With an AR:







I'm Not sure I would call a gut shot deer , a well placed shot , but good job on the recovery .

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#3214273 - 10/06/19 09:16 PM Re: Govt. Buy Back? [Re: pyscodog]
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Wasn't gut shot. Quartering to me, a bit high through the lungs. It went 50 yards.
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