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#3201321 - 04/14/19 01:48 PM Hunting companion
IdahoRoger Offline
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Registered: 03/04/18
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Loc: Idaho
I'm thinking of getting a Border Collie/ Decker Terrier cross for a hunting companion. Any opinions?

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#3201526 - 04/16/19 08:17 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
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Loc: NW Arkansas
Ive owned a Collie/Cur cross and she was great. The collie side brought out some good and bad traits for a hunting dog. Overall I loved her.

Ive had big Rats. Not exactly a Decker but basically the same thing. Was not impressed for a hunting dog. Not terrible, just not great. Nice little dogs to be around, just not quite right in the head. Of course Ive never seen any Terrier that was. If you just want an uncontrollable dog that kills stuff that is smaller than itself then you should be fine.

Neither of the dogs you mentioned are known as gun dogs, especially the Collie, so be prepared to start shooting around them early. Nice and slow. Just because a dog will grab a cow by the head does not make them a gun dog. Collies are tough as nails and fragile as glass at the same time.

You asked for opinions. My opinion is only based on what I do, which is decoy coyotes. For that use I would run from that cross. Of course I do not know the parents. If they are working dogs then maybe. If it is from someones pets I would not waste one second with one.
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#3201736 - 04/19/19 12:50 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: btech29]
IdahoRoger Offline
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Thanks for your input! I went ahead and bought a 6 week old puppy. I wanted some brains in a dog, along with some grit. I hope I get some of both. My new pup is a good lap dog when he's sleepy, but really tough when he plays. He loves to stomp around in the woods, and seems to have a good nose on him. We'll see how it goes, I'll go really slow with training him around guns. He's going to be easy to house train too.

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#3201747 - 04/19/19 04:40 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
Bob_Atl Online
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Registered: 01/09/15
Posts: 2064
Loc: in the field, or not..
Good deal, what'd you name him & how about a pic ?? TIA
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#3201812 - 04/20/19 12:25 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: Bob_Atl]
IdahoRoger Offline
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Registered: 03/04/18
Posts: 52
Loc: Idaho
His name is Kyle, I named him after Chris Kyle, Navy Seal.

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#3202469 - 04/28/19 02:02 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
IdahoRoger Offline
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#3202471 - 04/28/19 02:12 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
IdahoRoger Offline
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https://flic.kr/s/aHsmxM8D3C
Try this one instead.

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#3202472 - 04/28/19 02:13 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: Bob_Atl]
IdahoRoger Offline
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Loc: Idaho
I think I got the picture thing figured out, sorry for the delay.
Roger---https://flic.kr/s/aHsmxM8D3C

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#3202477 - 04/28/19 03:06 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
Bob_Atl Online
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cute little guy, but wait till he grows up !!!
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#3202479 - 04/28/19 03:41 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: Bob_Atl]
IdahoRoger Offline
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Loc: Idaho
He's getting to be a hand full right now. How did you get the picture to post without the link?

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#3202482 - 04/28/19 04:31 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
Bob_Atl Online
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Registered: 01/09/15
Posts: 2064
Loc: in the field, or not..
You've done all the hard work of getting the image into flickr.

I went to the flickr page, chose download, then all sizes, then original size,
then right click on the image to get its properties (its URL).
Copied the properties URL filename.jpg, pasted it into the PM "image add" field to finish up.

The key to it, is to make sure the link (URL) ends with extension *.jpg
In this case, it was "https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32762690017_8e6b5bafc6_o.jpg"
and the PM "image add" icon will add the "[img]" tokens to front and back of that URL.
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#3203041 - 05/06/19 12:19 AM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
IdahoRoger Offline
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Edited by IdahoRoger (05/08/19 10:02 AM)

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#3203835 - 05/17/19 12:45 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
Brent Parker Offline
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Registered: 04/29/01
Posts: 309
Loc: Arizona
Jeff we have had this conversation before. All my terrier/terrier cross dogs listen, a terrier needs a heavy hand. Mine know if they dont listen there will be a reckoning.

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#3203947 - 05/18/19 06:01 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: Brent Parker]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
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Loc: NW Arkansas
Originally Posted By: Brent Parker
Jeff we have had this conversation before. All my terrier/terrier cross dogs listen, a terrier needs a heavy hand. Mine know if they dont listen there will be a reckoning.



Yep, we may never agree on this topic. You may be using different dogs than the ones Ive been exposed to. I am certainly not saying there are not some good ones around. The ones Ive seen in my neck of the woods that aint worth shooting. Anyone with eyes and willing to be honest would agree. If you feed them and they make you happy then thats what matters I reckon.


Truth be known I really dont care one way or the other. Ive got one old, fat dog left and I will hunt her as long as she wants to go. After that I doubt I will mess with it anymore. Aint got the energy left to make a dog what it needs to be. I have no earthly idea why I even posted on this thread.
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#3204049 - 05/19/19 07:48 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: IdahoRoger]
Brent Parker Offline
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Registered: 04/29/01
Posts: 309
Loc: Arizona
Lol, very true my friend, but that why we get along so great. We respectful disagree. Not every Terrier I have ran has made the team for sure.

I sure hope after Spot is gone you get you another. I cant imagine coyote hunting without a dog. It's a lot of work making good dogs but in the end it's more than worth it.


Edited by Brent Parker (05/19/19 07:49 PM)

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#3204057 - 05/19/19 09:24 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: Brent Parker]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
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Loc: NW Arkansas
Im old and wore out Brent. As you know it takes a lot of work to make a dog.

I just want to clear one thing up. When we see people on here asking for a "decoy dog" they are not needing a trap line/recovery/decoy dog. My comments are regarding decoy dogs. I have no experience in recovery or trap line. If I did that type of work my opinion would likely be much different.

If you are needing a true decoy dog and only a decoy dog then my opinion still stands. They are not geared well for a decoy dog. No need to muddy up a good Cur dog with that blood either. I have used them and I am a student of the game. I watch what other people do and I have not seen a good one. Again, I have not seen every dog out there and I am not a dog expert. I just use my eyes. I was watching a vid just last night and the dogs were "hunting" over on the next hill and the coyote was standing at 50 yards. That does not work for me. Lets be honest here, for rec hunters to kill a hairless coyotes in May with no dog work is senseless.

My opinion is not worth any more or any less than anyone else.
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#3204099 - 05/20/19 11:25 AM Re: Hunting companion [Re: btech29]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 5013
Loc: stuck in a fence
Originally Posted By: btech29
Im old and wore out.


you dont look very old in some of the videos i have seen. how old are you?

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#3204101 - 05/20/19 11:33 AM Re: Hunting companion [Re: btech29]
marcus_robinson Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 41
Loc: Southern Utah
btech29 won't agree with this breeding grin



the momma is in the back. She's a leopard/kemmer cur

The dad to the two pups is 3/4 airedale, 1/4 jack russell. I'm excited to see what they do. So far everyone has been pleased with their pup out of this litter. But most have gone to people who trap and decoy as well.

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#3204108 - 05/20/19 01:35 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: marcus_robinson]
Bob_Atl Online
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Registered: 01/09/15
Posts: 2064
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Good look'n pups.
Bet they're little too high strung for apartment folks.
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#3204111 - 05/20/19 02:24 PM Re: Hunting companion [Re: Bob_Atl]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
Posts: 1461
Loc: NW Arkansas
I feel really old Slicker!

Good looking pups Marcus. I really like the looks of Momma. If you feed them and like what they do then Im happy for you. I think the word missing in your post was Jadg. I would try that blue pup on the left.

Apartment folks are the ones on here asking for advice. Thats the point exactly. You think someone who lives in town and is gonna hunt twice a year needs a Jadg? Seasoned people dont ask for advice on PM.

Here is my last piece of advice. Use whatever makes you happy.
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