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#3179597 - 12/21/18 05:47 PM Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions
Ken43 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Fresno county CA
I live in Utah and obtained a Mt. Lion permit. Just wondering what you guys think. I will be calling with a FoxPro Shockwave. I am wondering if a .223 rifle would be enough gun for a Mt. Lion. I would like to know from you guys who have hunted and killed Mt. Lions.
Thanks for any input.

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#3179615 - 12/21/18 07:15 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
Yotes2Call Offline
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Registered: 12/07/06
Posts: 2663
Loc: Buffalo, Wyoming
First off, make sure the 223 is a legal caliber there. We can use them here in Wyoming, but only with heavy bullets.. ie. 60 grain and above

It's mostly about shot placement... hit them where you are supposed to and it will kill them.
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#3179632 - 12/21/18 08:14 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
Coyotejunki Online
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Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 4808
Loc: MO
I have seen two killed with 1 shot each from 17 centerfires. I don't know the legality in the state you want to hunt. I have no doubt that a 223 can kill one. Shot placement goes with out saying, well guess I said it, sort of.
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#3179767 - 12/22/18 03:56 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
Tracker0721 Offline
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Registered: 06/17/18
Posts: 326
Loc: Republic WA
If legal, use it. Some of those cats get pretty big but Iíve heard of plenty of guys dropping em with 223s and smaller. I havenít had the luck of calling one in yet, when I do Iíll probably have a bow, 300 Winnie, 222 or 223 because Iíll be calling bear or coyote with no thought of a lion showing up.

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#3179778 - 12/22/18 04:50 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Tracker0721]
Ken43 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Fresno county CA
Thanks for all of your information. I think I will take my .308 winchester.

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#3179839 - 12/22/18 09:58 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
jcs271 Online
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Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 1359
Loc: Montana Territory
Originally Posted By: Ken43
Thanks for all of your information. I think I will take my .308 winchester.


Excellent choice!
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#3179846 - 12/22/18 10:17 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: jcs271]
tripod3 Online
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 7947
Loc: WA
Many have been taken here with .22 mag treed. Some have been lost with much bigger like .338 WM on the ground.
Our game regs require a min .22 centerfire, which is nice if you have a filled deer or elk tag.
A hole is a hole just better in a good spot. I still prefer it to be a larger hole.
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#3180296 - 12/25/18 03:15 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Yotes2Call]
reb8600 Offline
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Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 10742
Loc: Morgan, Utah
Originally Posted By: Yotes2Call
First off, make sure the 223 is a legal caliber there.


In Utah the only firearm restriction is that the firearm cannot be capable of being fired full auto. There are no caliber restrictions. I donít think they thought about people calling them in. I believe they think they are all treed by hounds and shot at close range.

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#3180300 - 12/25/18 03:39 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
johral Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 487
Loc: WA
I used a 300 Savage on mine and it exited with only a quarter size hole or less, and if you handload, you can download the 308 with H4895. A 223 is plenty though...I have seen a bunch taken with a 22 Mag RF. Here in WA we can use any 22 Center Fire for Cougar.

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#3180309 - 12/25/18 05:05 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
ackleyman Online
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8402
Loc: Hickville
223 is a magnum Lion rifle.

63g Sierra semi point

64g Winchester

approximately 25-26.5g of Varget and cci 450, call it good!

If they are still breathing when they hit the ground, hit'em again, straight through the lungs.

If their tail is slapping the ground, hit'em again

If their tail is quivering, you are probably good.

Don't be too quick to run up and see if they are dead.

I killed one with a Ruger single six with a 22 Mag cylinder one handed with mule reins in the other hand, shot him off a rock with six hounds on him as soon as he hit the ground. I had to shoot him quick as he was about to jump off in the middle of the hounds. It was all I could do to keep the mule from jumping in the freecus boxing with his two front feet.

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#3181848 - 12/31/18 04:07 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
baltz526 Offline
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Registered: 11/12/09
Posts: 313
Loc: lapine oregon
I pack a 223 bolt action rifle loaded with 64gr Winchester power points at 3050fps. Plenty good out to around 350 yards with snow on the ground. I shot one with 55gr Ballistic tips. Not a good bullet choice. The 308 with deer bullets surely will not bounce off.
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#3181966 - 01/01/19 12:47 AM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
gonzaga Offline
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Registered: 01/22/02
Posts: 4357
Loc: Raton, NM U.S.A.
Shot my Male lion with my 260 Remington and 139 Scenar bullet. He jumped went over the hill and was dead at the bottom of the draw. No major exit hole.
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#3182585 - 01/03/19 01:21 AM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
g Bo Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 04/20/14
Posts: 561
Loc: Utah
Shot mine with a Grendel went 160 yards and was dead on its feet the entire way. Not sure how far it would have gone with a 223 hit? Maybe the same maybe not? would suggest a bigger gun, if you own one.what part of Utah are you in ?

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#3187194 - 01/21/19 01:38 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
coolbrze Offline
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Registered: 12/15/13
Posts: 286
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: Ken43
Thanks for all of your information. I think I will take my .308 winchester.


Good choice. Cats aren't hard to kill but you need to be able to hit where you aim. IMO .308 is better than .223 smile I killed a 180 lb tom w/ 44 mag

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#3187250 - 01/21/19 07:38 PM Re: Caliber rifle for calling Mt. Lions [Re: Ken43]
DoubleCK Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/15/09
Posts: 3479
Loc: Wauneta, NE / Gold Canyon, AZ
6mm Remington.... 87gr. Hornady V-Max.

The shot was frontal in the lower throat near the chest at 40 yards. Lots of flopping but never got up.

What was left of the bullet was lodged under the skin behind the shoulder blades.

I am now using my Dad's Old School load with 87 gr. flat based soft points.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...690#Post3027690
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