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#3176320 - 12/07/18 02:38 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: mhammer]
6724 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 2853
Loc: colorado
Originally Posted By: mhammer
Maybe try hunting the private land since the public is so over pressured. Just a thought.


The government hunters are working on behalf of the sheep ranchers, they hammer everything and yesterday were shooting from the air.

There are big ranches, there are smaller ranches, most often the ranch house or managers place is a mile or more from the road, most times behind locked gates. Many of the ranches are corporate owned where just tracking down a manager is not easy.



The one area I had never been to, but it should hold coyotes. There was almost nothing there, no rodents, very few rabbit tracks, only wild horses. I wondered if the area had been poisoned.
The other areas I went to are areas that I have had very good success earlier in the year, but did not hunt them this year as I was killing big stuff to eat.
I doubt it was not the moon cycle, or the weather. The weather was good, front moving in after several days of single digit lows. When you can drive tens of miles of remote roads that have shallow fresh snow on them, you can see tracks from that day, and from perhaps the last several days. When there are no tracks to speak of for miles, it means they are not there. Coyotes often travel roads, especially when there is lots of snow, no tracks means no coyotes. In the couple of hours I heard the helicopter, I only heard 3 shots. When I was in Texas hunting from a helicopter, I went through 400 rounds in one 100 minute flight, animals were dropping like crazy.

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#3176340 - 12/07/18 03:49 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: Flesh Eater]
SnowmanMo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 3270
Loc: Phoenix, Az
Originally Posted By: Flesh Eater
Originally Posted By: SnowmanMo
I think that there may be other variables at play. While there might be pressure from other hunters, the moon cycle combined with weather and the other variables might combine to create blank days.

I too have had them, in areas that I know have and do hold coyotes. This weekend I went into an area that I have had success in, and after 3 stands and drawing blanks, I changed it up. I had been running bird sounds with a lot of success lately. But with the colder weather, I wondered if they might be a bit hungrier. So on the 4th stand, I ran bird sounds but added in some cottontail calls. I called in a double, shot one. Then the next stand, same sequence, called in another that we shot. So on a hunch, the next day, I ran that same sequence, and called in and dropped another.

I appreciate the post. It helps those guys who think that we all see coyotes all the time, which ANY predator hunter knows, isn't the case.

Thanks for sharing.


I think weather has the biggest role for ME, in MY area. It seems if the weather's nice, no animals show up. If it sucks and is miserable for me, everything comes running.


I have noticed something similar.
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#3176341 - 12/07/18 03:53 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: 6724]
Mr. Poppadopalis Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 06/25/13
Posts: 2908
Loc: Metro Denver
I have noticed -
Cloudy days suck
Windy days suck
Warm days suck
Full Moon days suck

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#3176366 - 12/07/18 06:20 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: Mr. Poppadopalis]
SlickerThanSnot Online
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Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 5009
Loc: stuck in a fence
Originally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
I have noticed -
Cloudy days suck
Windy days suck
Warm days suck
Full Moon days suck


i have noticed
some clear days suck
some calm days suck
some cold days suck
and some dark of the moon days suck

some days coyote calling just sucks.

those days that dont suck and the coyotes are coming good, those are the days that keep me going back for more.

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#3176399 - 12/07/18 08:02 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: Mr. Poppadopalis]
6724 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 2853
Loc: colorado
Originally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
I have noticed -
Cloudy days suck
Windy days suck
Warm days suck
Full Moon days suck


so you only hunt when it is cold, sunny and no moon?

I have called coyotes on sunny days, cloudy days, rainy days, snowy days, just about every type of day. Full moon phase is not as good, I will give that.

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#3176415 - 12/07/18 09:50 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: 6724]
KC Coyote Hunter Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 07/29/18
Posts: 214
Loc: Kansas City, MO
I agree..... with the first post. Hunting a new spot every time to give myself a chance at success is the most important factor. So far... this is a challenge although I have successes along the way.
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#3176419 - 12/07/18 10:03 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: 6724]
Mr. Poppadopalis Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 06/25/13
Posts: 2908
Loc: Metro Denver
Originally Posted By: 6724
Originally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
I have noticed -
Cloudy days suck
Windy days suck
Warm days suck
Full Moon days suck


so you only hunt when it is cold, sunny and no moon?

I have called coyotes on sunny days, cloudy days, rainy days, snowy days, just about every type of day. Full moon phase is not as good, I will give that.



Never said that, said those days suck in my opinion....

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#3176421 - 12/07/18 10:26 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: 6724]
KC Coyote Hunter Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 07/29/18
Posts: 214
Loc: Kansas City, MO
for me.........on average............ new locations PAY!
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#3177015 - 12/10/18 02:09 PM Re: If they are not there, you can't kill them! [Re: 6724]
Ochocobull Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 289
Loc: Central, OR
That is a great write mostly because it is honest and I could relate. I don't get to hunt coyotes in the spring, summer and fall as I am typically hunting other game at that time. I start going from December to about March which isn't enough time. In my opinion and this is strictly my opinion I think that the hunting sucks or is much harder when I first start in December because everyone is out there. As the months go on and the snow gets deeper and harder to get around the people die off and the coyote hunting gets better. I am actually thinking of buying a side by side with tracks to get to places where people can't go to see if that helps any. Thanks for the write up and I hope things turn around for you.
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