Remington serial number question

pyscodog

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I have two SA Remingtons both with RR serial numbers and one with E, one with C and one with no letter prefix. I read where the RR was a more desirable action. Is there something special about them?

If I read it right, the RR was made in 1946??
 
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I doubt that you have a Rem Short Action dated 1946(RR code) as the 722 wasn't introduced until 1948. It would have to be a 722 as that was the first short action produced by Rem.

The Long action model 30/720(improved version) came in short action calibers in the 1930's through 1947 but was still a long action based on the 1917 military action.
 
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Serial number pre-fix letters in the rifle serial number on the receiver (not on the barrel) will get you to the nearest decade of production. If you need something more precise, call Remington.

Again, these are rifle serial numbers and have nothing to do with the barrel dating codes found on barrels just in front of the rifle receiver.

4,5,6,and 7 digit Model 700 serial numbered receivers-from 1962 to the early 1970's.
A prefix-began in the early 1970's
B prefix-began in the the late 1970's
C prefix-began in the late 80's
D prefix-began mid-late 90's - some recognized by ISS/J Lock firing pins
E prefix- ~2000/millenium (Embellished/engraved Model 700's/ISS/J Lock Firing Pins)
F prefix-began mid 2000's
G prefix-current/recent production

RR prefix - more recent production (largely CNC receivers) Some people including custom smiths who build off Rem 700 actions say these are truer actions than older ones. People who hate Remington for whatever reason will tell you that they are junk. I'll go with custom smiths who say these CNC produced actions need very little, if any at all, "blue printing" to make them shoot well.

All S/S receiver serial numbers have a prefix letter S
All Titanium receiver serial numbers have a prefix letter T

Rem Custom Shop Model 700 receiver serial numbers are sequenced w/ a Suffix Letter.

No short action Model 722 (1948) or 700 (1962) rifles existed in 1946 as AW stated. A Model 700 barrel code of RR most likely designates a November 1997 manufacture of a Model 700.

The two letter designation on the barrel in front of the receiver (not a serial number) will get you a rough year and month designation on the age of the Model 700 using the following code at this link. NOTE - Beginning with the first sentence, not everything stated here is totally accurate but the month and year date codes further down the page are good. Also notice what happened in 1999 with the barrel codes.

The text following the barrel code information is fairly good. Take time to read it all.

http://leeroysramblings.com/Gun%20Articles/remington_barrel_date_code.html


 
The RR and the 1946 date kinda threw me too. I know that rifle is a lot newer than 1946 seeing how its a glossy varmint heavy barrel in a brown laminate stock. I was just going off what I saw. So the MAIN reason the RR prefix is more desirable it because it CNC machined and suppose to be a truer action than the earlier models.
 
Originally Posted By: pyscodogThe RR and the 1946 date kinda threw me too. I know that rifle is a lot newer than 1946 seeing how its a glossy varmint heavy barrel in a brown laminate stock. I was just going off what I saw. So the MAIN reason the RR prefix is more desirable it because it CNC machined and suppose to be a truer action than the earlier models.

Did you get the RR from the receiver serial number or from the barrel code? Again, as I explained above, they are two different breeds of stray ponies. An RR barrel code would indicate 11/97. RR serial numbers did not exist in 1997.

That's the "word on the street"/internet about RR serial number receivers, but I have no way to verify that. Maybe call Remington to see what they say about an RR serial number...??

btw - have you figured out that "room temperature" issue with your BO thread yet?
 
RR came off the receiver. I have two, both have RR on the receiver.

As far as "room temperature", don't have a clue.
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Originally Posted By: pyscodogRR came off the receiver. I have two, both have RR on the receiver.

As far as "room temperature", don't have a clue.
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I'm guessing that the two rifles are both fairly new....???

As an enabler for those who are overly inquisitive but who get all of their answers from the internet/from others who do their leg work for them, I called Remington Historical Services a few minutes ago, and the lady I talked with told me that the RR serial numbers began in the ~2015 to 2017 time frame in various different models of 700 rifles. She said no exact production date was available from that two year span as to when it (RR) was first used.

She was not sure about the CNC receivers issue and RR serial numbers when I inquired, but she didn't seem to be fully aware of what CNC meant either??? I think she was "schooled" in serial numbers, etc., and she was not a production issues specialist since she apparently had no idea about what a CNC receiver was.

As for the "room temperature" issue, I'm referring to your very similar inquiry/comment to another poster on your 300 BO thread. Again, the poster in that thread was using a metaphor when he used the term. It refers to the fact that when a living creature is killed it reaches "room" or ambient temperature as the body cools.

If you need additional help, call Remington about the serial number and/or barrel code issue. As for the "Room Temp" issue, maybe Google a bit to further expand your horizons if you're still confused/in doubt.

One thing that I will point out: When you buy used guns from gun shows and/or on the internet, you may get a rifle from a seller/vendor who took a barreled action in great condition maybe from a beat up stock and placed it in a good stock and he calls it a unique or desirable maybe older rifle based on the stock used. They are not unique other than the fact that is what you get sometimes at gun shows, etc. ....mix and match rifles. Some shoot great and some don't and if the vendor can convince an unknowing buyer that the rifle he is buying is a unique or hard to find model based perhaps on the stock used, he'll get a "premium" price. Some of the vendors will do that to get your extra dollars for a "one of a kind" or what the unknowing buyer thinks is a unique and desirable rifle. Caveat Emptor - or "Let The Buyer Beware"....
 
I was on another site and a guy was selling a rifle with the RR code and was making it sound like it might be a little special. I recently bought a 22BR from a friend and I ask if the action was trued up when the barrel was installed. He said it was an RR action. Maybe being made on a CNC machine they are a little bit truer than the earlier models. IDK, the BR shoots great, guess it doesn't matter.
 
I trued up a RR stainless long action for a gentleman about 2 weeks ago. It wasn't any truer than any of the older actions I've dealt with. The threads were out both radially and axially. It took .010 over to get things trued up, about the same as most Remington actions.
 
Originally Posted By: BangPopI trued up a RR stainless long action for a gentleman about 2 weeks ago. It wasn't any truer than any of the older actions I've dealt with. The threads were out both radially and axially. It took .010 over to get things trued up, about the same as most Remington actions.

This just goes to show that for every rule there are exceptions. It would be hard to imagine every single CNC action being perfect, but as anyone who is around CNC equipment knows, it's a more consistent tool than older techniques.

In addition, a stainless Model 700 receiver with the RR serial number prefix doesn't follow typical Remington serial number nomenclature/protocol. But maybe the newer RR SN series indicates something to Remington that all actions, whether stainless or blued steel, all have in common...?? Or maybe someone screwed the pooch....?

It would not be the first time that it has happened at any gun manufacturer. For example, not too long ago I bought a fairly worn Model 700 in 280 Remington, except that the barrel is factory stamped 7MM-06. I knew they existed, but this is the first one I had seen, so I grabbed it for a few more $$ than I would have spent on the same rifle with a normal barrel caliber stamp, in spite of its "well-worn" condition. The best part is it seems to shoot factory Remington Core-Lokt ammo in fine fashion and I bought it for a very reasonable price from a gun shop who got it from someone who had no idea and cared even less when told about why the rifle was unique when he traded it off. He simply wanted to finance a new rifle so he sold/traded the old one at a very good price for him. I was happy with the price I paid, so probably two smiley faces emerged from the same gun shop for different reasons.

For anyone interested, the rifle was made in the 1978 time frame when Remington was moving from "280 Remington" to "7MM Express Remington" barrel stamps for the cartridge, hoping to rekindle buyer interest in an existing cartridge with a new name change. Somehow, some of the early ones got barrel stamped "7MM-06" and left the factory that way.
 
I have six RR actions, both blued and SS with custom barrels on them. The gunsmith took a cut to square the front of the action and used a custom recoil lug. These RR action guns with jewel triggers, X caliber, Krieger, Hart, and Bartline barrels all shoot bug hole groups, tiny groups. They are in good fiberglass or Laminate stocks with good scopes, bedded properly.

I also have a Rem 783 with a 29" heavy Palma in 6.5 Creed in a Boyd's laminate stock, this rifle shoots hummer groups, trigger re sprung to 5 oz with a custom bolt knob.

Winny Fan, that was one heck of a snag on that rifle! I had a 7mm Express that I shot 160g Sierra btsp at 2930 using Nosler's recommended load of IMR 7828 in the #4 manual, unreal accurate.

One thing about the Rem 700's that is really great is the ability to have the gunsmith mill the action opening .120 longer and use a Wyatt's magazine box. This option is huge when it comes to shooting vld bullets and equates to longer useful barrel life. Those vld bullets have a mind of their own when it comes to COAL and shooting bug hole groups...aggravating to say the least, especially when you have to use the rifle as a single shot to get the best accuracy due to OAL and mag constraints.

In as far as safety, the Remington 700 bolt head is rated at 150,000 psi. Only the old Winchester can compete with this safety feature. Amazing at how most of the custom actions can't hold a candle to this pressure ability of the bolt head. A NASSA engineer friend is writing a book on the safety of current actions produced...folks are in for a shock.
 
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