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#3157670 - 08/05/18 05:02 PM disappointing .22WMR performance
danno in va Offline
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Registered: 06/24/18
Posts: 77
Loc: virginia
After using centerfires for decades, it seemed time to get into the rimfire game to keep the noise down in the hay fields. The Savage heavy bbl ss laminated stock seemed like a good choice. The Remington Premier Magnum Rimfire with 33 grain bullet was by far the most accurate with MOA groups at 100 yds.

The shot was 110 yrs, no wind with broadside presentation. 'Hog rolled over and then after a bit started kicking and rolled into its hole. Maybe it's better to go with frontal standing or head shots until i get more experience with this lightweight.

Suggestions, please?

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#3157681 - 08/05/18 06:24 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
why Offline
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Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 663
Loc: md eastern shore
Not a 22 mag but with a 17 hmr I do head shots only and it has worked well out to over 200 yds on ghogs.

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#3157693 - 08/05/18 07:35 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
danno in va Offline
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Registered: 06/24/18
Posts: 77
Loc: virginia
why, thanks for your post. There's also a similar unfired .17HMR waiting in the wings and i'm thinking of selling it. i'm interested to hear about ranges and shot placement for reliable shots with both the .17HMR and the .22WMR.

Do you consider your .17HMR to kill consistently at that range in good conditions?



Edited by danno in va (08/06/18 05:16 PM)

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#3157728 - 08/05/18 10:47 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
6mm06 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 7665
Loc: USA

In my video "Rimfire Groundhogs" we used both 17 HMR and 22 Mag quite a lot. The HMR was the clear winner though since as already stated, it's easy to make head shots due to the accuracy of the rifle /load. We only had one groundhog out of several get into the hole when using the HMR. The shot was pulled as the groundhog moved, resulting in a gut shot. We used CCI 20 gr. Game Points.

The .22 mag hits harder as you would imagine, but some required a follow up shot.

Here's a video exert from the movie while using the 22 mag.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CKaNnX-JCW8&index=10&list=UU81nCZByzsnwkuHReRQNMwQ&t=0s


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#3157790 - 08/06/18 11:43 AM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
cmatera Online
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/15/08
Posts: 2091
Loc: CO
If you really want to up the ante, Try a .17 WSM. Shoots like a laser and devastating on anytthing I ever pointed it at.

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#3157808 - 08/06/18 02:26 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: cmatera]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2013
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: cmatera
If you really want to up the ante, Try a .17 WSM. Shoots like a laser and devastating on anytthing I ever pointed it at.


If you're looking for the most from a rimfire, the 17 WSM has no equal and is substantially more potent than all other rimfires.

I've had a 17 WSM for a few years now and its turned my 17 HMR rifles into plinkers.

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#3157821 - 08/06/18 04:17 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
why Offline
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Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 663
Loc: md eastern shore
How do you 17 WSM guys compare the accuracy of it to the HMR. I ask because I have never seen or shot one.

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#3157830 - 08/06/18 05:16 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
danno in va Offline
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Registered: 06/24/18
Posts: 77
Loc: virginia
i would've bought the .17WMR if it had been on the market at the time i got the Savage .22WMR and .17HMR (still unfired). The reports haven't really inspired me to get the .17 WMR, and the Ruger is more coin than i want to plunk down for a rimfire. i agree with an earlier post that the .27 case might have been most interesting in a .20. i'm thinking to stay with the .22WMR and learn what it will and won't do consistently.

Maybe the .222 and Swift have spoiled me with consistent one shot kills, but that's what suits me. It's looking like i'm going to need to be more particular with groundhog presentation with the .22WMR.

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#3157834 - 08/06/18 05:34 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: why]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2013
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: why
How do you 17 WSM guys compare the accuracy of it to the HMR. I ask because I have never seen or shot one.


My Savage HB SS Bmag 17 WSM is a fair bit more accurate than either my HB SS Thumbhole stock Sav. 93/17 HMR or Savage A17 HB Laminated Target Sporter 17 HMR.

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#3157837 - 08/06/18 06:21 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: B23]
cmatera Online
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Registered: 12/15/08
Posts: 2091
Loc: CO
My Savage HB SS laminated thumbhole with a K prefix in the S/N is the best $400 I ever spent on a gun. I like the caliber enough that I bought a Franklin Armory F17L for $2,400 and only hope it shoots close to as good as the Savage, and it still needs an aftermarket trigger.

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#3157843 - 08/06/18 07:05 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
crittr gittr Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 08/31/12
Posts: 1284
Loc: UTAH
danno, try to find some Aguila silver eagle ammo. That stuff puts a pretty good hurt on varmints. I got my last few boxes through midway usa.
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#3157844 - 08/06/18 07:08 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
jnd Offline
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Registered: 05/11/10
Posts: 82
Loc: Pa
Originally Posted By: danno in va
After using centerfires for decades, it seemed time to get into the rimfire game to keep the noise down in the hay fields. The Savage heavy bbl ss laminated stock seemed like a good choice. The Remington Premier Magnum Rimfire with 33 grain bullet was by far the most accurate with MOA groups at 100 yds.

The shot was 110 yrs, no wind with broadside presentation. 'Hog rolled over and then after a bit started kicking and rolled into its hole. Maybe it's better to go with frontal standing or head shots until i get more experience with this lightweight.

Suggestions, please?

Groundhogs are very tough and are hard to kill. I had a similar problem with a 22 Hornet and 45 gr bullets if the groundhogs were not hit in the head or through both shoulders I would have crawlers. I sold the Hornet and went back to the 223 and 22-250 type cartridges. This season I have been shooting a Tikka 8 twist 223 with the Sierra TMK with good results

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#3158503 - 08/10/18 10:16 AM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
shermanrm Offline
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Registered: 02/18/03
Posts: 335
Loc: nevada
I have been using 32 gr. bullets in 22 & 22 mag for 2 yrs.
Am now going back to 40 grs. all the way around. Not impressed with the lighter bullets at all.
To me the heavier bullets do the job much better.
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#3158579 - 08/10/18 06:28 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
danno in va Offline
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Registered: 06/24/18
Posts: 77
Loc: virginia
i greatly appreciate all the posts. Great experience to consider.

i really do have a lot of respect for groundhogs, as they can be really tough and i do my best to take the best shot so they don't even know they're dead.

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#3158580 - 08/10/18 06:41 PM Re: disappointing .22WMR performance [Re: danno in va]
parson Online
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Registered: 11/16/13
Posts: 324
Loc: North Dakota
Had both a cz 512 and a 455 in 22 mag. The 512 was very impressive especially with Remington 40 gr hollow points, really whacked prarie dogs. The 455 did not shoot anywhere near as good with the 40s, settled on the 35 gr 22As. Killed prarie dogs but nowhere as good as the 40s. Seriously looking at the Steyr Zepher II in 22 mag


Edited by parson (08/10/18 09:57 PM)

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