Shipping firearms UPS....

I went through this stupidity with the local post master using USPS. That is only required for dealers. You're not a dealer.

And if you didn't know, you MUST send firearms with adult signature required per the ATF's regulations, no matter what company you use. Look up ATF regulations concerning shipping arms.
 
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterI went through this stupidity with the local post master using USPS.

That’s a bummer.
My postmaster travels around training postal employees so she knows her big book from front to back.
Folks like that are easy to deal with.

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Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterI went through this stupidity with the local post master using USPS.

That’s a bummer.
My postmaster travels around training postal employees so she knows her big book from front to back.
Folks like that are easy to deal with.

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Usps is usually smooth sailing,unfortunatly they were outrageous on this one so I had to us UPS.
 
Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: ultramagOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: crapshootI have always had a copy of the receiver fgl when shipping regardless of the carrier.

Something you might like to know about ups. Their "insurance" only covers less UNLESS THE ITEM IS PACKED BY UPS.

Yes, take all your stuff with you.
The best way I’ve found is to locate a gun-friendly UPS contract shipping location like a hardware store or equipment rental business.


Ah yet another restriction not followed,according to the UPS page firearms can only be shipped through a UPS customer center,not UPS store or third party outlet.

Yeah, they make it about as clear as mud, don’t they?
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This site says no markings:

https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/packaging-and-supplies/special-care-shipments/firearms.page

“The labeling and outer box markings on all firearms shipments should not identify the contents as containing a firearm. Labeling, including the shipper's and consignee's abbreviated names on the shipping label or air shipping document, must be non-descriptive.“

And they have several types of “third party shippers”, so that adds to the confusion.

The UPS Stores and access points like Best Buy are definite no-no’s.
I had a Radio Shack store that would ship guns, so you never know until you ask.

I wasn’t very clear about taking a copy of the FFL.
I take it so the shipper can copy the ship-to address directly from the license, and also see that the package is being shipped to a legitimate location.
I put a copy inside the box just in case the box is damaged or opened enroute. It only costs me a sheet of paper through my printer.

If you keep getting a hassle from UPS, you can always ship long guns by USPS. Rates are similar to UPS, but insurance is more expensive.

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Says it has to be in new corrugated packing too,I used three cut up boxes to make one big enough for a rifle hard case...
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Originally Posted By: ultramagOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterI went through this stupidity with the local post master using USPS.

That’s a bummer.
My postmaster travels around training postal employees so she knows her big book from front to back.
Folks like that are easy to deal with.

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Usps is usually smooth sailing,unfortunatly they were outrageous on this one so I had to us UPS.

Yeah, distance and weight can make USPS crazy expensive, and then add insurance!

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Originally Posted By: ultramagOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: ultramagOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: crapshootI have always had a copy of the receiver fgl when shipping regardless of the carrier.

Something you might like to know about ups. Their "insurance" only covers less UNLESS THE ITEM IS PACKED BY UPS.

Yes, take all your stuff with you.
The best way I’ve found is to locate a gun-friendly UPS contract shipping location like a hardware store or equipment rental business.


Ah yet another restriction not followed,according to the UPS page firearms can only be shipped through a UPS customer center,not UPS store or third party outlet.

Yeah, they make it about as clear as mud, don’t they?
grin.gif


This site says no markings:

https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/packaging-and-supplies/special-care-shipments/firearms.page

“The labeling and outer box markings on all firearms shipments should not identify the contents as containing a firearm. Labeling, including the shipper's and consignee's abbreviated names on the shipping label or air shipping document, must be non-descriptive.“

And they have several types of “third party shippers”, so that adds to the confusion.

The UPS Stores and access points like Best Buy are definite no-no’s.
I had a Radio Shack store that would ship guns, so you never know until you ask.

I wasn’t very clear about taking a copy of the FFL.
I take it so the shipper can copy the ship-to address directly from the license, and also see that the package is being shipped to a legitimate location.
I put a copy inside the box just in case the box is damaged or opened enroute. It only costs me a sheet of paper through my printer.

If you keep getting a hassle from UPS, you can always ship long guns by USPS. Rates are similar to UPS, but insurance is more expensive.

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Says it has to be in new corrugated packing too,I used three cut up boxes to make one big enough for a rifle hard case...
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Been there and done that too!!
I bet I used 3 rolls of strapping tape!
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I have a local gun store that charges me $20-30 to pack and ship firearms. It is much easier to do it all that way. But I am just lucky enough to have a decent shop around that doesn't bend ya over to ship stuff.
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760I have a local gun store that charges me $20-30 to pack and ship firearms. It is much easier to do it all that way. But I am just lucky enough to have a decent shop around that doesn't bend ya over to ship stuff.

the gun store does the packaging AND pays shipping cost out of that 20 to 30?
 
Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: pahntr760I have a local gun store that charges me $20-30 to pack and ship firearms. It is much easier to do it all that way. But I am just lucky enough to have a decent shop around that doesn't bend ya over to ship stuff.

the gun store does the packaging AND pays shipping cost out of that 20 to 30?

Yep. $20 for handguns and $30 for long guns.
 
Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: Wyoming WinchesterI'm pretty sure, if you wrote "fragile iron art" handle with care on the box. It would go thru with no problems.

And then try to collect the insurance when the “art” gets run over by a truck—
Or maybe try to explain the “art” to the ATF?

There are very few things that are any dumber for a gun owner to do than to try and conceal or falsify a firearms transfer.

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I did not say to break any laws or falsify the USP. There are only a few people that need to know whats in your package. The middle men should remain clueless.
And I've seen some firearms that will fit that description of "art".
 
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