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#3147061 - 05/01/18 10:11 AM Lyman Bore Scope
pdhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/23/09
Posts: 2336
Loc: Wheatland ,Wyoming
Took the plunge and ordered the Lyman bore scope .
Any body else use one ?
Pros and cons ?
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#3147069 - 05/01/18 11:17 AM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
biggen0_8 Offline
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Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 1518
Loc: Poverty Knob Indiana
I have one, what I have learned is, I can't tell if a barrel will shoot, but I might be able to tell you why it won't shoot.

I also learned that my cleaning regiment needed some rethinking.

And that factory barrels are almost comically horrible looking, but some still shoot pretty well. And also that Remington's quality is poor inside as well as out.

Of the numerous factory barrels that I have looked at they would rank as follows.

Best CZ.
Howa
Savage
Browning
Marlin
Winchester
Remington
Hi-Point
Rock Island
The Rock Island and Hi-Point I have only seen one example of. But whew they were bad.

I honestly haven't seen a new Remington that looked decent, of the nearly a dozen that I looked at.

So Pro's,you'll probably do a better job of cleaning.
Con's, you'll spend more time cleaning.

I really think it's a good and useful tool for the money, I won't be without one.



Edited by biggen0_8 (05/01/18 11:20 AM)
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#3147071 - 05/01/18 11:26 AM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2039
Loc: Pacific NW
I bought one on sale from Midway a few years ago. Price was pretty inexpensive so I kept my expectations in check with what I was spending. Was pleasantly surprised when the image turned out to be pretty decent. On mine, the light is almost to bright or maybe it's how the light is positioned, but it creates somewhat of a glare. It'd definitely be a plus if it worked for the little .17 calibers but overall, I've found mine to be acceptable.

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#3147076 - 05/01/18 12:11 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
MGYSGT Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 2642
Loc: Arizona
They are great when you are buying a used rifle. That is when you find out "hardly shot" means the throat is 4" long.
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#3147077 - 05/01/18 12:13 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: biggen0_8]
hm1996 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 15306
Loc: S. Texas
Quote:
I have one, what I have learned is, I can't tell if a barrel will shoot, but I might be able to tell you why it won't shoot.


What biggen0_8 said.

Biggest + is the ability to see exactly which solvent actually does what in spite of manufacturer's claims, making it a lot easier to get the bores clean. Using best solvent for the particular barrel's issues shortens the process a lot. ETA: For instance, my Savage barrels all are copper collectors due to lots of tool marks (even after lapping barrel).



This is fouling accumulated after just one round:



Fortunately the fouling does not affect accuracy as I seldom fire more than 4-5 rounds per hunting trip or 15-20 at the range.

Found the best regimen is to clean with Tactical Advantage to remove powder fouling, then follow w/Patch Out until clean. Both usually work best if left overnight.

Quote:
On mine, the light is almost to bright or maybe it's how the light is positioned, but it creates somewhat of a glare.


I had the same issue until I read the instructions and found the brightness is adjustable with the ^v button. Wife says it's a man thing....I NEVER read instructions. lol Sometimes it is still a bit bright but dimming does improve it a lot.

Regards,
hm


Edited by hm1996 (05/01/18 12:25 PM)
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#3147079 - 05/01/18 01:02 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: hm1996]
DannoBoone Offline
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Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 819
Loc: Walker, IA
Heck, I misplaced my instructions...thanks for the tip, hm1996!
In larger bores (45 Cal) I do find it to be a bit dim, though.

Agree that one cannot tell if a rifle will shoot or not, as well
as being able to tell why it does not. I now know why my Montana
Rifle Mod 1999 would never, and will never shoot with the
horrible chamber job they did on it.

My most prestine appearing factory barrel is on a RAP .204R, but
it doesn't come close to the accuracy as any of my Savage
barrels, which LOOK bad.

The only "con" I have with mine is that I managed to get a very
small piece of patch lint in it and have not found a way to
remove it. It's in the hole ahead of the light, not on the
mirror. The bore can still be clearly seen but the lint is an
aggravation much like a speck on eyeglasses.


Edited by DannoBoone (05/02/18 02:00 PM)
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#3147080 - 05/01/18 01:11 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
Matlock Offline
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Registered: 12/15/15
Posts: 946
Loc: ID - Idaho
Just picked one up recently on sale from Brownells. So far it's allowed me to refine the cleaning process for each gun, knowing exactly what each gun requires to be clean. It has eliminated hoping and guessing my cleaning process is enough. I like that. Only thing that would make it better is if it worked on my 17H.

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#3147084 - 05/01/18 01:52 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: hm1996]
B23 Offline
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Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2039
Loc: Pacific NW
The light, brightness, is adjustable? Well don't I feel like a dumba$$! crazy

Hmmm, maybe I, SHOULD, actually read the instructions, who knows what I could learn. lol

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#3147085 - 05/01/18 02:11 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8415
Loc: Hickville
Yeppers, this Lyman is a real dandy! I feel as if it will give a guy longer barrel life because the carbon will not build up to where it can not be removed.


The biggest shock is that some of the solvent manufactures must have someone in marketing smoking some pretty good dope because of what they claim their solvent can do.

Another shock is that barrels do not have to look that good in as far as tooling marks in the barrel vs how they shoot, but they DO have to be cleaned more often and effectively.

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#3147089 - 05/01/18 03:31 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: DannoBoone]
hm1996 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 15306
Loc: S. Texas
Gee thanks, guys. I feel better having company in the "not reading instructions" field. lol

Quote:
The only "con" I have with mine is that I managed to get a very
small piece of patch lint in it and have not found a way to
remove it. It's in the hole ahead of the light, not on the
mirror. The bore can still be clearly seen but the lint is an
aggravation much like a speck on eyeglasses.


Yep, Danno, that little inverted vee in the pictures above falls into the lint category. I'm going to try and blow mine out with some canned air next time I think of it.

Regards,
hm
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#3147098 - 05/01/18 05:24 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
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Registered: 11/26/10
Posts: 7302
Loc: East Tn
When I got mine I figured my shooting buddies would be wanting to see what their barrels look like.
One did but the others said they didn't want to know.

We did look at several new barrels from several makers which was interesting.
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#3147102 - 05/01/18 05:57 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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Registered: 01/31/14
Posts: 5043
Loc: stuck in a fence
have not seen tikka mentioned. anybody scoped any of them??

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#3147113 - 05/01/18 06:51 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
biggen0_8 Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 1518
Loc: Poverty Knob Indiana
Well I'll be dipped in doo doo, as long as I've been playing with this thing and I did not know you could turn the light down, you can even turn it clear off.
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#3147115 - 05/01/18 06:56 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
baitpile Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/06/15
Posts: 249
Loc: On Stand
yep, I like mine!!! Bought a new custom barrel due to it though unsure!! Found this in a brand new Rem 700 barrel...in several spots!!
PICT0005 by jrhranch, on Flickr
Yikes!
Nice scope for the money!!

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#3147141 - 05/01/18 09:26 PM Re: Lyman Bore Scope [Re: pdhunter]
ackleyman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 8415
Loc: Hickville
Bait, that is a bad one.

I have seen lands with half the width missing quite often. Also, seen where the barrel lost it's index when it was being rifled, ending up with a real mess. Holes in the barrels that are voids from the foundry are quite common, I just ignore those...nothing you can do. Common problems are really rough leade angles. Over size reamer pilots will gouge out the tops of the lands. Too loose reamer pilots will beat the lands oval shaped.

Rust is common, looks like the bore has had battery acid in the bore, Flitz on a good bronze bristle brush is often needed. 1" back from the muzzle, often has rust pitting from rain and humidity.

Probably the worst is a "plug" of carbon fouling, you can deal with the bad copper fouling with little effort, but the cooked on carbon fouling is a barrel killer.

The main purpose in buying a Lyman bore scope is to verify your cleaning regiement, secondary purpose is to grade your barrel quality.


Edited by ackleyman (05/01/18 11:28 PM)

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