Legal Pot Doesn't hurt Business

TxPigKiller

TxPigKiller

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So, some of you know I'm moving back to Texas. I made it from the ranch to Limon, CO last night, junction US 287/I70. I got a good nights sleep and hit the bricks about 430am. I cruise into town for fuel, on the main interstate exits $3.15/g, $2.89/g in town. I ask the nice lady at the gas station where could a fella find a cafe this time of day. She gave very good directions to a Dennys on the West side of town.
I get there, closed at 5am. I see the TA truckstop across the street, proceed there and you guessed it, cafe closed. Go over the interstate to the IHOP, a winner! Open 24/7. I place my order and popped out my laptop to take a little poke at the date, 4/20 and the fact that CO is so short of inspired "help" that 2 of the 3 cafes can't even be open for breakfast.
I order, saugage, hashbrowns, flap jacks, and eggs(scrambled w/ cheese at the waitress recommendation). While typing this I get my over hard eggs.
So, it turns out at the 3rd cafe, the lights are on and nobody's home.
So, now have , cold hashbrowns, cold saugage, with my newly scrambled eggs.
Yep, judging by my breakfast experience the new theme song for CO should be " I'll Never Smoke Weed with Willie Again!"
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It doesn't matter where you are. There's an effect across the working class everywhere, at every age. I pulled into Dollar General last night, because I needed a couple simple items, and the woman who was working the shift (only one employee on weekday nights), is standing outside the building, watching the cash register, smoking a cigarette! It was a thefts wet dream.

A couple weeks ago we took our oldest son to a Texas Roadhouse for his birthday. The woman who sat us was so f'd up she was telling him about draft specials (he's 8). Then she also forgot out silverware. Our waitress had to play catch up, running silverware to all her tables.

People are worthless anymore.
 
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterIt doesn't matter where you are. There's an effect across the working class everywhere, at every age.
People are worthless anymore.

Not everyone, but way too many falling into that category.
 
I see it in the local paper all the time, how wonderful marijuana is. Everywhere you go you smell it, even though it is illegal to smoke in public, and on federal lands. Walked into a steel fabrication shop today to buy some steel, the building smelled like pot. No wonder their reputation is in the toilet.
I see people lighting up while driving to work, (again illegal). Kids are trying it at younger and younger ages. All the while the papers and pot proponents claim that all the negative statistics are made up and untrue.
I think the rest of the country will follow. It makes no sense to me, Colorado loses industry to other states right now because the employers don't want to deal with employees that are high. I have never known anyone that smoked pot that was highly productive, and around here I know lots of people that smoke it every day.
 
it seems unreal that on the day when the most people are getting the munchies, all the places to eat were closed
 
I don't do dope heads or drunks. I spent my younger days around both, so I have first person experience. Once people start getting high the only thing they want is a higher high.
 
Originally Posted By: sandy hicksI don't do dope heads or drunks. I spent my younger days around both, so I have first person experience. Once people start getting high the only thing they want is a higher high.

Yup! I had a few pothead friends when I was young. Still keep in touch with one of them. He's 71 years old and is still working as a night janitor. He can't afford to retire. Another became hopelessly addicted to dope and committed suicide. They won't convince me that pot is harmless.
 
Originally Posted By: ADKOriginally Posted By: sandy hicksI don't do dope heads or drunks. I spent my younger days around both, so I have first person experience. Once people start getting high the only thing they want is a higher high.

Yup! I had a few pothead friends when I was young. Still keep in touch with one of them. He's 71 years old and is still working as a night janitor. He can't afford to retire. Another became hopelessly addicted to dope and committed suicide. They won't convince me that pot is harmless.

Playing Devil's advocate...

A lot of people have issues with pot. What's you're opinion on alcohol? I know more alcoholics than I do dopers, and the drunken driving incidents seemingly do more damage to innocent people than pot does.

How do people justify alcohol and bars, but not pot?
 
People have been loaded the whole time, they are just making no effort to hide it anymore. Spent a week in denver last year for a training seminar, I did not see any signs of legal dope except a dispensary in the strip mall. Legal here in nevada, also see nothing unusual.
 
"Playing Devil's advocate...

A lot of people have issues with pot. What's you're opinion on alcohol? I know more alcoholics than I do dopers, and the drunken driving incidents seemingly do more damage to innocent people than pot does.

How do people justify alcohol and bars, but not pot?"



Yes, that's one of the silly arguments dopers have been using to justify legalizing pot. But consider this:
An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.

So, if alcohol is the third leading cause of death and smoking is the leading cause of death in the U.S. what will the death rate be from pot if it's legalized in most states? What is an acceptable number of Americans dying from inhaling pot smoke? From car accidents associated with smoking pot? From all other causes associated with pot use. Will 10,000 deaths be acceptable? 50,000? Will it matter if any of those deaths is a member of your family? Will it matter if pot kills you?

Think about it before you jump on the bandwagon of the marijuana industry which stands to make $billions$ in profits along with their political cronies.

 
Originally Posted By: ADK"Playing Devil's advocate...

A lot of people have issues with pot. What's you're opinion on alcohol? I know more alcoholics than I do dopers, and the drunken driving incidents seemingly do more damage to innocent people than pot does.

How do people justify alcohol and bars, but not pot?"



Yes, that's one of the silly arguments dopers have been using to justify legalizing pot. But consider this:
An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.

So, if alcohol is the third leading cause of death and smoking is the leading cause of death in the U.S. what will the death rate be from pot if it's legalized in most states? What is an acceptable number of Americans dying from inhaling pot smoke? From car accidents associated with smoking pot? From all other causes associated with pot use. Will 10,000 deaths be acceptable? 50,000? Will it matter if any of those deaths is a member of your family? Will it matter if pot kills you?

Think about it before you jump on the bandwagon of the marijuana industry which stands to make $billions$ in profits along with their political cronies.



A silly argument? Have you noticed how many bars are in an area? Cities are double. Have you seen how many patrons spend their weekend nights there, most likely getting [beeep] faced drunk then driving?

https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

Alcohol related crashes total 29% of ALL traffic-related-deaths in the U.S. I don't think it's a "silly argument."

I don't understand how some people can demonize pot, then not even bother to mention alcohol. They're both destructive, and both drugs. One creates dependency while the other doesn't.

Also, before you make some judgement call towards me, just know that my dad is an alcoholic. He can't even hold his hand steady until he has a couple beers in him. While we were groundhog hunting a few weekends ago, he drank his first beer a little after 8 a.m. I don't know any pot smokers who get sick if they don't smoke, or can't function. Sure, they want to get high, but their body doesn't NEED it.
 
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Yes, as I said,it's a silly argument when used to attempt to justify legalizing recreational marijuana. Personally,I see nothing wrong with legalizing medical marijuana if it is tightly controlled.
 
There are some very interesting statistics coming out of Colorado since the legalization of marijuana. None of it good, check Colorado's traffic accident stats since legalizing weed.
 
I knew the total legalization of marijuana was going to turn out to be bad news, but not as bad as it has turned out to be. It has attracted tons of bums to come here... There are pot shops everywhere. There are more pot shops than Starbucks coffee shops, Walmart stores, and McDonalds locations combined.

I don't care how many so called experts claim smoking marijuana is good for you because that is total BS. The human body was never intended to inhale smoke of any kind.

However, perhaps there are legitimate uses for treating certain medical problems though. The thing about it is that prohibition will never work as people who are determined will get whatever prohibited item it is they want. It never worked with liquor nor does it work with any type of drug, most drugs are already illegal and there are more drug addicts than ever.






 
NHTSA has released data for drunk driving and for drivers under the influence of drugs. While the numbers of drivers driving drunk has come down, the number of drivers under the influence of drugs, including pot, have increased.

According to their 2013-2014 numbers, drivers with illegal BAL's were 1.5% while people under the influence of drugs were 22% The numbers differed for alcohol with time of day and weekday vs. weekend. Nights and weekends had the highest concentration of drunk drivers. Drugs on the other hand showed no difference in time of day or weekday vs. weekend. Seems like they are doing drugs at all hours of the day and night.

Let's not forget distracted drivers. Their accident numbers are also on the rise. So pot+texting is more dangerous than drunk driving alone.

It's about personal responsibility. NO ONE should be driving while under the influence of ANY substance. Proving the negative is a fallacy, which is a common tactic for both sides.
 
The legalization of pot was sold to us voters largely with the idea that the taxes generated would go to schools. The amount of tax revenue is always being cited as very large and a great benefit for the state. But, why then are the teachers and schools still complaining about needing more money? Perhaps it was a bait and switch?

Pot is a negative. It destroys ambition and creates a whole class of people who want to sit around and do nothing. Around here it is the coolest thing you can do, if you do not, you are a square. I smell it on the river, I smell it on the job, I smell it everywhere I go. I see people smoking in their cars on the way to work. It is EVERYWHERE.

I do not buy the alcohol argument, if you want to talk about alcohol, fine, but to use that as a reason to justify pot, it does not hold water with me. They are two different things. It is also harder to define the amount of pot or the amount of incapacitation.
 
It is social engineering to weaken and dumb down society.

It is much easier to manipulate and control people who are high on drugs.

I am sure there are some functional responsible users, but from my experience with pot heads... marijuana is all they care about and where their next fix is going to come from, they're broke most of the time, most of the ones I know of can't hold down a job, end up becoming thief's, end up in the system and can't get a job and end up on the dole and we know welfare = votes.

It is a part of the socialist/communist agenda.

 
Originally Posted By: 6724I do not buy the alcohol argument, if you want to talk about alcohol, fine, but to use that as a reason to justify pot, it does not hold water with me. They are two different things. It is also harder to define the amount of pot or the amount of incapacitation.

If referring to me, I don't use that argument as a justification, but I find it very hypocritical that people who are vehemently against marijuana, find no issue with bars or alcohol. Outside of the city, most people drive to bars, drink, then drive drunk. That's okay, apparently. So, I don't mention alcohol to justify legal marijuana, but simply to point out the hypocrisy of it, since a lot of people have a drink or two a day and find it socially acceptable to do so.
 
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