Winning or loosing???
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SlickerThanSnot
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Originally Posted By: pyscodogThese kids sure got everybody riled up. Are we winning the fight or loosing. Sure doesn't look good on the news.
good question and i dont know.
but i think we are only one school shooting away from being in big, big trouble.
the thing that gets me fired up is that none of these little snowflakes seem to realize they are much more likely to get killed by one of their own little snowflakes that is texting while driving than they are by a gun.
little dipchits are being brainwashed big time. and they are to stupid to know it.
good question and i dont know.
but i think we are only one school shooting away from being in big, big trouble.
the thing that gets me fired up is that none of these little snowflakes seem to realize they are much more likely to get killed by one of their own little snowflakes that is texting while driving than they are by a gun.
little dipchits are being brainwashed big time. and they are to stupid to know it.
Flesh Eater
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I watched a guy interview a woman who was protesting the NRA and demanding more gun laws. She actually thought a 16 year old kid could walk into a gun store and buy a gun without showing ID, without filling out paper work, just like he/she was buying a gallon of milk. These people don't even know a single law on the book, but they want more legislation. Ignorance is the most dangerous thing on this planet.
When my history teachers made comments about those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, I never understood the importance of that. Now I do. Dark times will come for us all if we give up our second amendment. It's the only amendment that protects the rest. Period.
When my history teachers made comments about those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, I never understood the importance of that. Now I do. Dark times will come for us all if we give up our second amendment. It's the only amendment that protects the rest. Period.
Flesh Eater
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Honestly, I don't see any of this crap in person. You have to wonder how much of it is just a front. Liberal news media making a deal that really isn't a deal...
Plant.One
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Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterHonestly, I don't see any of this crap in person. You have to wonder how much of it is just a front. Liberal news media making a deal that really isn't a deal...
this sure isnt grass roots anything. 100% astroturf
those kids are being proped up as sock puppets and a pretty face on an ugly message and promoted by the media.
that whole mess over the weekend was funded and organized by the pros - not a bunch of kids who happened to get it right.
you dont pull off a huge logistics thing like a multi-city march including all the permitting and travel plans for tens of thousands of people with a bunch of kids running the show.
this sure isnt grass roots anything. 100% astroturf
those kids are being proped up as sock puppets and a pretty face on an ugly message and promoted by the media.
that whole mess over the weekend was funded and organized by the pros - not a bunch of kids who happened to get it right.
you dont pull off a huge logistics thing like a multi-city march including all the permitting and travel plans for tens of thousands of people with a bunch of kids running the show.
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Flesh Eater
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The real question is; is the majority of America buying what they're selling? I don't think so.
There were many, many more members that joined the NRA over the past few weeks than there were people marching. I think the numbers speak volumes.
This isn't a win or lose situation. It's more like the people struggling for control aren't getting what they want. The rest of America is going on with life as business as usual. I think even democrats who own guns, hunt, and believe in the 2A are looking at this quite embarrassingly.
There were many, many more members that joined the NRA over the past few weeks than there were people marching. I think the numbers speak volumes.
This isn't a win or lose situation. It's more like the people struggling for control aren't getting what they want. The rest of America is going on with life as business as usual. I think even democrats who own guns, hunt, and believe in the 2A are looking at this quite embarrassingly.
Plant.One
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Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterThe real question is; is the majority of America buying what they're selling? I don't think so.
There were many, many more members that joined the NRA over the past few weeks than there were people marching. I think the numbers speak volumes.
This isn't a win or lose situation. It's more like the people struggling for control aren't getting what they want. The rest of America is going on with life as business as usual. I think even democrats who own guns, hunt, and believe in the 2A are looking at this quite embarrassingly.
i think you hit it on the head there.
its probably going over like crazy in the big leftist bastion city's - but for the rest of the country its about as popular as the infamous fart in church.
There were many, many more members that joined the NRA over the past few weeks than there were people marching. I think the numbers speak volumes.
This isn't a win or lose situation. It's more like the people struggling for control aren't getting what they want. The rest of America is going on with life as business as usual. I think even democrats who own guns, hunt, and believe in the 2A are looking at this quite embarrassingly.
i think you hit it on the head there.
its probably going over like crazy in the big leftist bastion city's - but for the rest of the country its about as popular as the infamous fart in church.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterThe real question is; is the majority of America buying what they're selling? I don't think so.
There were many, many more members that joined the NRA over the past few weeks than there were people marching. I think the numbers speak volumes.
This isn't a win or lose situation. It's more like the people struggling for control aren't getting what they want. The rest of America is going on with life as business as usual. I think even democrats who own guns, hunt, and believe in the 2A are looking at this quite embarrassingly.
Totally agree with this!!
There were many, many more members that joined the NRA over the past few weeks than there were people marching. I think the numbers speak volumes.
This isn't a win or lose situation. It's more like the people struggling for control aren't getting what they want. The rest of America is going on with life as business as usual. I think even democrats who own guns, hunt, and believe in the 2A are looking at this quite embarrassingly.
Totally agree with this!!
Been around this block at least 20 times (at national level...many more when you add in the state and local levels) over the past 65 years. It never changes, and never will. The anti-gun crowd jumps on every opportunity to gain the upper hand and, thank God, we have pretty well been able to hold the line in the past, but this time smells different!
The liberal left has always had the MSM in their pocket, so we could have predicted the massive media coverage of all the anti-gun protests. I did see one such "news" report shown from a ground view that looked like a solid mass of humanity crowding the street and a park area wall to wall but they (very briefly) flashed an aerial view which showed the crowd to be only at one corner of the park, and the crowd did not seem nearly as large.
This time around, however, the opposition has gathered lots of financial support from the likes of Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Oprah, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, Rupert Murdoch, & George Soros.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmagoldber...l/#3f0f9aa07d9e
They have also lined up half of Hollywood crazies led by George Clooney and Steven Spielberg to help lead the charge; and then there are the kids who are being brain washed and used by the socialist left to accomplish the deed.
Originally Posted By: HuntinjimWe will always lose in the liberal media but we can always win in person. Join the NRA, make sure your legislators know where you stand and never pass up an opportunity to politely discuss and educate people about all things positive regarding guns.
As Jim said, we've got to keep the pressure on and a strong NRA is more important than it has ever been if we are to block the opposition this time around.
DISCOUNT NRA MEMBERSHIP
Regards,
hm
The liberal left has always had the MSM in their pocket, so we could have predicted the massive media coverage of all the anti-gun protests. I did see one such "news" report shown from a ground view that looked like a solid mass of humanity crowding the street and a park area wall to wall but they (very briefly) flashed an aerial view which showed the crowd to be only at one corner of the park, and the crowd did not seem nearly as large.
This time around, however, the opposition has gathered lots of financial support from the likes of Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Oprah, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, Rupert Murdoch, & George Soros.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmagoldber...l/#3f0f9aa07d9e
They have also lined up half of Hollywood crazies led by George Clooney and Steven Spielberg to help lead the charge; and then there are the kids who are being brain washed and used by the socialist left to accomplish the deed.
Originally Posted By: HuntinjimWe will always lose in the liberal media but we can always win in person. Join the NRA, make sure your legislators know where you stand and never pass up an opportunity to politely discuss and educate people about all things positive regarding guns.
As Jim said, we've got to keep the pressure on and a strong NRA is more important than it has ever been if we are to block the opposition this time around.
DISCOUNT NRA MEMBERSHIP
Regards,
hm
Rock Knocker
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The other angle on all of this is: Who is believing everything the news is telling us...?
It hasn't seem to have been brought up here but frankly with talking to people there are others that just don't believe all of this is what we're told.
Are all of these shooters the actual shooters or just patsies? I'm sure a lot of them are true, and that's why some of these shootings come from no where then the copy cats follow.
These are two news articles that should be looked at and considered involving the last school shooting.
This isn't just gun people vs. gun grabbers it's also those who believe vs. those who question.
It hasn't seem to have been brought up here but frankly with talking to people there are others that just don't believe all of this is what we're told.
Are all of these shooters the actual shooters or just patsies? I'm sure a lot of them are true, and that's why some of these shootings come from no where then the copy cats follow.
These are two news articles that should be looked at and considered involving the last school shooting.
This isn't just gun people vs. gun grabbers it's also those who believe vs. those who question.
Flesh Eater
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Originally Posted By: hm1996Been around this block at least 20 times (at national level...many more when you add in the state and local levels) over the past 65 years. It never changes, and never will. The anti-gun crowd jumps on every opportunity to gain the upper hand and, thank God, we have pretty well been able to hold the line in the past, but this time smells different!
The liberal left has always had the MSM in their pocket, so we could have predicted the massive media coverage of all the anti-gun protests. I did see one such "news" report shown from a ground view that looked like a solid mass of humanity crowding the street and a park area wall to wall but they (very briefly) flashed an aerial view which showed the crowd to be only at one corner of the park, and the crowd did not seem nearly as large.
This time around, however, the opposition has gathered lots of financial support from the likes of Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Oprah, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, Rupert Murdoch, & George Soros.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmagoldber...l/#3f0f9aa07d9e
They have also lined up half of Hollywood crazies led by George Clooney and Steven Spielberg to help lead the charge; and then there are the kids who are being brain washed and used by the socialist left to accomplish the deed.
Originally Posted By: HuntinjimWe will always lose in the liberal media but we can always win in person. Join the NRA, make sure your legislators know where you stand and never pass up an opportunity to politely discuss and educate people about all things positive regarding guns.
As Jim said, we've got to keep the pressure on and a strong NRA is more important than it has ever been if we are to block the opposition this time around.
DISCOUNT NRA MEMBERSHIP
Regards,
hm
Yeah, well, money can buy bodies in the street. That doesn't mean all those bodies believe the B.S. they're "marching" for. The proof is in the pudding when you see them interviewed and they don't know their brown eye from a hole in the ground.
The problem with their strategy is two fold. Number one, Hollywood has lost ALL credibility since the ugly truth has been revealed, and they've all been raping each other and no one has spoken up. This has screamed hypocrisy quite loudly, even to the most left leaning liberal. Secondly, money can't buy votes. These people they're paying to show up to march, and they pay very, very well, still have to get off their couches and vote. Hands down, as long as the electoral college exists, our strength is in voting.
MAC did a good review on the NRA, and I struggle to support them. He said the NRA is a mess, and the lukewarm NRA side is what keeps me from supporting them. If they give an inch here or there, then what good are they? This is the steamroll effect they're looking for, and they'll take that inch and keep on chugging. Enough is enough. The bump stock fiasco was the stepping stone. They NEVER should've mentioned banning them. They know the verbiage better than anyone when it comes to ATF laws, and they know that banning bump stocks would ban a lot more simply based on how a law would have to be written up. It was a stupid part on the NRA to support that hair brained idea. One crime was committed with them. Ban them. Please. More people have to die in car wrecks before a company issues a safety recall.
The liberal left has always had the MSM in their pocket, so we could have predicted the massive media coverage of all the anti-gun protests. I did see one such "news" report shown from a ground view that looked like a solid mass of humanity crowding the street and a park area wall to wall but they (very briefly) flashed an aerial view which showed the crowd to be only at one corner of the park, and the crowd did not seem nearly as large.
This time around, however, the opposition has gathered lots of financial support from the likes of Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Oprah, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, Rupert Murdoch, & George Soros.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmagoldber...l/#3f0f9aa07d9e
They have also lined up half of Hollywood crazies led by George Clooney and Steven Spielberg to help lead the charge; and then there are the kids who are being brain washed and used by the socialist left to accomplish the deed.
Originally Posted By: HuntinjimWe will always lose in the liberal media but we can always win in person. Join the NRA, make sure your legislators know where you stand and never pass up an opportunity to politely discuss and educate people about all things positive regarding guns.
As Jim said, we've got to keep the pressure on and a strong NRA is more important than it has ever been if we are to block the opposition this time around.
DISCOUNT NRA MEMBERSHIP
Regards,
hm
Yeah, well, money can buy bodies in the street. That doesn't mean all those bodies believe the B.S. they're "marching" for. The proof is in the pudding when you see them interviewed and they don't know their brown eye from a hole in the ground.
The problem with their strategy is two fold. Number one, Hollywood has lost ALL credibility since the ugly truth has been revealed, and they've all been raping each other and no one has spoken up. This has screamed hypocrisy quite loudly, even to the most left leaning liberal. Secondly, money can't buy votes. These people they're paying to show up to march, and they pay very, very well, still have to get off their couches and vote. Hands down, as long as the electoral college exists, our strength is in voting.
MAC did a good review on the NRA, and I struggle to support them. He said the NRA is a mess, and the lukewarm NRA side is what keeps me from supporting them. If they give an inch here or there, then what good are they? This is the steamroll effect they're looking for, and they'll take that inch and keep on chugging. Enough is enough. The bump stock fiasco was the stepping stone. They NEVER should've mentioned banning them. They know the verbiage better than anyone when it comes to ATF laws, and they know that banning bump stocks would ban a lot more simply based on how a law would have to be written up. It was a stupid part on the NRA to support that hair brained idea. One crime was committed with them. Ban them. Please. More people have to die in car wrecks before a company issues a safety recall.
reloader326
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Originally Posted By: Plant.One
you dont pull off a huge logistics thing like a multi-city march including all the permitting and travel plans for tens of thousands of people with a bunch of kids running the show.
You are absolutely right about that.
you dont pull off a huge logistics thing like a multi-city march including all the permitting and travel plans for tens of thousands of people with a bunch of kids running the show.
You are absolutely right about that.
SlickerThanSnot
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Originally Posted By: hm1996 we have pretty well been able to hold the line in the past, but this time smells different!
exactly the way i see it.^^
exactly the way i see it.^^
Originally Posted By: Flesh Eater
Yeah, well, money can buy bodies in the street. That doesn't mean all those bodies believe the B.S. they're "marching" for. The proof is in the pudding when you see them interviewed and they don't know their brown eye from a hole in the ground.
Those who don't know stuff from Shinola are the very ones you have to worry about. They tend to buy into the left's propaganda hook line and sinker. The enthusiasm of the opposition is what smells different to me this go around. Teens all love drama and they don't have a clue, but are obviously motivated. If the anti's can keep them motivated, we may have a problem.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterThe problem with their strategy is two fold. Number one, Hollywood has lost ALL credibility since the ugly truth has been revealed, and they've all been raping each other and no one has spoken up. This has screamed hypocrisy quite loudly, even to the most left leaning liberal.
I believe I first heard of the "casting couch" some 65 years ago. This is nothing new for Hollywood and has only recently seemed to matter to anyone, let alone those with a port side list.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterSecondly, money can't buy votes. These people they're paying to show up to march, and they pay very, very well, still have to get off their couches and vote. Hands down, as long as the electoral college exists, our strength is in voting.
Can't say I agree with the "money can't buy votes" (votes are cheap along the border and I suspect lots of other places as well) part but getting out the vote for our side is much more important than ever, IMO.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterMAC did a good review on the NRA, and I struggle to support them. He said the NRA is a mess, and the lukewarm NRA side is what keeps me from supporting them. If they give an inch here or there, then what good are they? This is the steamroll effect they're looking for, and they'll take that inch and keep on chugging. Enough is enough. The bump stock fiasco was the stepping stone. They NEVER should've mentioned banning them. They know the verbiage better than anyone when it comes to ATF laws, and they know that banning bump stocks would ban a lot more simply based on how a law would have to be written up. It was a stupid part on the NRA to support that hair brained idea. One crime was committed with them. Ban them. Please. More people have to die in car wrecks before a company issues a safety recall.
I don't know who Mac is or what his issue is, but you know, any organization with over five million members is bound to make some decisions that earn them a few disgruntled members, so if you find the perfect organization that has managed to block the large majority of the anti-gun group's agenda for over 60 years (to my personal knowledge) and never made a mistake, be sure to let us know. While I wait for that organization to step forward, I think I'll just continue to dance with the girl what brung me.
Regards,
hm
Yeah, well, money can buy bodies in the street. That doesn't mean all those bodies believe the B.S. they're "marching" for. The proof is in the pudding when you see them interviewed and they don't know their brown eye from a hole in the ground.
Those who don't know stuff from Shinola are the very ones you have to worry about. They tend to buy into the left's propaganda hook line and sinker. The enthusiasm of the opposition is what smells different to me this go around. Teens all love drama and they don't have a clue, but are obviously motivated. If the anti's can keep them motivated, we may have a problem.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterThe problem with their strategy is two fold. Number one, Hollywood has lost ALL credibility since the ugly truth has been revealed, and they've all been raping each other and no one has spoken up. This has screamed hypocrisy quite loudly, even to the most left leaning liberal.
I believe I first heard of the "casting couch" some 65 years ago. This is nothing new for Hollywood and has only recently seemed to matter to anyone, let alone those with a port side list.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterSecondly, money can't buy votes. These people they're paying to show up to march, and they pay very, very well, still have to get off their couches and vote. Hands down, as long as the electoral college exists, our strength is in voting.
Can't say I agree with the "money can't buy votes" (votes are cheap along the border and I suspect lots of other places as well) part but getting out the vote for our side is much more important than ever, IMO.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterMAC did a good review on the NRA, and I struggle to support them. He said the NRA is a mess, and the lukewarm NRA side is what keeps me from supporting them. If they give an inch here or there, then what good are they? This is the steamroll effect they're looking for, and they'll take that inch and keep on chugging. Enough is enough. The bump stock fiasco was the stepping stone. They NEVER should've mentioned banning them. They know the verbiage better than anyone when it comes to ATF laws, and they know that banning bump stocks would ban a lot more simply based on how a law would have to be written up. It was a stupid part on the NRA to support that hair brained idea. One crime was committed with them. Ban them. Please. More people have to die in car wrecks before a company issues a safety recall.
I don't know who Mac is or what his issue is, but you know, any organization with over five million members is bound to make some decisions that earn them a few disgruntled members, so if you find the perfect organization that has managed to block the large majority of the anti-gun group's agenda for over 60 years (to my personal knowledge) and never made a mistake, be sure to let us know. While I wait for that organization to step forward, I think I'll just continue to dance with the girl what brung me.
Regards,
hm
dogcatcher
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Originally Posted By: pyscodogI watched a video asking college student what an assault rifle was. Most of them really didn't know. Tells me they don't even know what they are trying to ban. Its scary.
I don't believe most video interviews have any basis on what the real public thinks, it is way too easy to edit out answers to fit the agenda. If you ask enough people, you can get an hour long video that tell what ever story you want to promote.
I don't believe most video interviews have any basis on what the real public thinks, it is way too easy to edit out answers to fit the agenda. If you ask enough people, you can get an hour long video that tell what ever story you want to promote.
swift one
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If I had to bet on it, I would say some changes are coming. It's different his time. The topic of "Thugs in the street with guns" is not the front page headline here. It's "Our kids are going to school and getting shot", with a "Our friends and family are going to concerts and night clubs and getting shot." in a close second place.
"Black guns.....AKs....Street Sweepers.....Bump Stocks.......high capacity mags" are being manipulated into the same conversations as "Social Media Pure Pressure...mental health....PTSD war vets....Millennials feel entitled....single parent homes...ect." Some of it, I hate to say it is correct. A lot of it is over exaggerated. But Americans love drama and exaggeration is one of the fundamental ingredients of drama. Thanks reality TV.........
Those topics are being sent out and a light speed pace into a VERY connected world via social media. And a whole new twist to the approach.....using the faces and voices of surviving school shooting victims ALL OVER THE NEWS.
Like it or not, weather the public is brainwashed or not, you have to admit the gun control sector is very much playing their dirty cards quite well this time. I foresee changes coming. Unfortunate, but quite possible. Maybe more so than ever before.
I will say this...if it doesn't get passed this time, when this generation that is currently in high school, you know, then ones on the news and doing all the school walk outs....once they get into the voting sector, the 2A is probably in a lot of trouble.
"Black guns.....AKs....Street Sweepers.....Bump Stocks.......high capacity mags" are being manipulated into the same conversations as "Social Media Pure Pressure...mental health....PTSD war vets....Millennials feel entitled....single parent homes...ect." Some of it, I hate to say it is correct. A lot of it is over exaggerated. But Americans love drama and exaggeration is one of the fundamental ingredients of drama. Thanks reality TV.........
Those topics are being sent out and a light speed pace into a VERY connected world via social media. And a whole new twist to the approach.....using the faces and voices of surviving school shooting victims ALL OVER THE NEWS.
Like it or not, weather the public is brainwashed or not, you have to admit the gun control sector is very much playing their dirty cards quite well this time. I foresee changes coming. Unfortunate, but quite possible. Maybe more so than ever before.
I will say this...if it doesn't get passed this time, when this generation that is currently in high school, you know, then ones on the news and doing all the school walk outs....once they get into the voting sector, the 2A is probably in a lot of trouble.
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Flesh Eater
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Originally Posted By: hm1996Originally Posted By: Flesh Eater
Yeah, well, money can buy bodies in the street. That doesn't mean all those bodies believe the B.S. they're "marching" for. The proof is in the pudding when you see them interviewed and they don't know their brown eye from a hole in the ground.
Those who don't know stuff from Shinola are the very ones you have to worry about. They tend to buy into the left's propaganda hook line and sinker. The enthusiasm of the opposition is what smells different to me this go around. Teens all love drama and they don't have a clue, but are obviously motivated. If the anti's can keep them motivated, we may have a problem.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterThe problem with their strategy is two fold. Number one, Hollywood has lost ALL credibility since the ugly truth has been revealed, and they've all been raping each other and no one has spoken up. This has screamed hypocrisy quite loudly, even to the most left leaning liberal.
I believe I first heard of the "casting couch" some 65 years ago. This is nothing new for Hollywood and has only recently seemed to matter to anyone, let alone those with a port side list.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterSecondly, money can't buy votes. These people they're paying to show up to march, and they pay very, very well, still have to get off their couches and vote. Hands down, as long as the electoral college exists, our strength is in voting.
Can't say I agree with the "money can't buy votes" (votes are cheap along the border and I suspect lots of other places as well) part but getting out the vote for our side is much more important than ever, IMO.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterMAC did a good review on the NRA, and I struggle to support them. He said the NRA is a mess, and the lukewarm NRA side is what keeps me from supporting them. If they give an inch here or there, then what good are they? This is the steamroll effect they're looking for, and they'll take that inch and keep on chugging. Enough is enough. The bump stock fiasco was the stepping stone. They NEVER should've mentioned banning them. They know the verbiage better than anyone when it comes to ATF laws, and they know that banning bump stocks would ban a lot more simply based on how a law would have to be written up. It was a stupid part on the NRA to support that hair brained idea. One crime was committed with them. Ban them. Please. More people have to die in car wrecks before a company issues a safety recall.
I don't know who Mac is or what his issue is, but you know, any organization with over five million members is bound to make some decisions that earn them a few disgruntled members, so if you find the perfect organization that has managed to block the large majority of the anti-gun group's agenda for over 60 years (to my personal knowledge) and never made a mistake, be sure to let us know. While I wait for that organization to step forward, I think I'll just continue to dance with the girl what brung me.
Regards,
hm
Even these kids peers think they're idiots, but you don't see every side of these stories. It's the loudest kids getting all the attention, but I'll guarantee for every high school kid who's liberal, there's one conservative, and one who doesn't care either way. It's the way schools work.
Money used to buy votes, but not anymore. People want jobs. The dems have crapped all over ever race and class of people. The past election speaks volumes. Hillary might have won the "popular" vote, because one city covers how many hundreds of square miles of country side, but the electorate was mostly red. Landslide red, to be exact.
MAC is the military arms channel.
If this is different, the only difference at the end of it all is that America will see another war on its soil. Gun owners and free people won't disarm themselves peacefully.
Yeah, well, money can buy bodies in the street. That doesn't mean all those bodies believe the B.S. they're "marching" for. The proof is in the pudding when you see them interviewed and they don't know their brown eye from a hole in the ground.
Those who don't know stuff from Shinola are the very ones you have to worry about. They tend to buy into the left's propaganda hook line and sinker. The enthusiasm of the opposition is what smells different to me this go around. Teens all love drama and they don't have a clue, but are obviously motivated. If the anti's can keep them motivated, we may have a problem.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterThe problem with their strategy is two fold. Number one, Hollywood has lost ALL credibility since the ugly truth has been revealed, and they've all been raping each other and no one has spoken up. This has screamed hypocrisy quite loudly, even to the most left leaning liberal.
I believe I first heard of the "casting couch" some 65 years ago. This is nothing new for Hollywood and has only recently seemed to matter to anyone, let alone those with a port side list.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterSecondly, money can't buy votes. These people they're paying to show up to march, and they pay very, very well, still have to get off their couches and vote. Hands down, as long as the electoral college exists, our strength is in voting.
Can't say I agree with the "money can't buy votes" (votes are cheap along the border and I suspect lots of other places as well) part but getting out the vote for our side is much more important than ever, IMO.
Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterMAC did a good review on the NRA, and I struggle to support them. He said the NRA is a mess, and the lukewarm NRA side is what keeps me from supporting them. If they give an inch here or there, then what good are they? This is the steamroll effect they're looking for, and they'll take that inch and keep on chugging. Enough is enough. The bump stock fiasco was the stepping stone. They NEVER should've mentioned banning them. They know the verbiage better than anyone when it comes to ATF laws, and they know that banning bump stocks would ban a lot more simply based on how a law would have to be written up. It was a stupid part on the NRA to support that hair brained idea. One crime was committed with them. Ban them. Please. More people have to die in car wrecks before a company issues a safety recall.
I don't know who Mac is or what his issue is, but you know, any organization with over five million members is bound to make some decisions that earn them a few disgruntled members, so if you find the perfect organization that has managed to block the large majority of the anti-gun group's agenda for over 60 years (to my personal knowledge) and never made a mistake, be sure to let us know. While I wait for that organization to step forward, I think I'll just continue to dance with the girl what brung me.
Regards,
hm
Even these kids peers think they're idiots, but you don't see every side of these stories. It's the loudest kids getting all the attention, but I'll guarantee for every high school kid who's liberal, there's one conservative, and one who doesn't care either way. It's the way schools work.
Money used to buy votes, but not anymore. People want jobs. The dems have crapped all over ever race and class of people. The past election speaks volumes. Hillary might have won the "popular" vote, because one city covers how many hundreds of square miles of country side, but the electorate was mostly red. Landslide red, to be exact.
MAC is the military arms channel.
If this is different, the only difference at the end of it all is that America will see another war on its soil. Gun owners and free people won't disarm themselves peacefully.
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Flesh Eater
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Best way to combat this movement is to teach our children about the constitution, bill of rights, and our founders' intentions. It needs to be drilled into the minds of the youth that those documents provide EVERYONE the freedom to fail, to succeed, to simply exist, regardless of race, creed, or gender. They're not draconian laws or rights, and are relevant regardless of the century. This is hapoeneing because of ignorance. Period. It's been their greatest tactic, and started when they took over the schools, unchallenged.