BLAME THE NRA!

hm1996

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Here it comes! It should come as no surprise that the anti-gun crowd would blame the NRA for the tragic Florida school shooting sooner or later.

Quote:Florida school shooting suspect was on rifle team that got NRA grant

Regards,
hm
 
Ya I read that. SOOO What if he was. I don't see the correlation. Guess they have to blame someone. What if he's been a Boy Scout? Gonna blame them too. Hope he wasn't wearing Nike's, they'll end up in the mix for some reason or another.
 
I didn't know till today when I heard it on the "news" that anyone can buy full auto guns on the internet.
They hold hundreds of rounds it seems.

I didn't catch where exactly to order one though.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistI didn't know till today when I heard it on the "news" that anyone can buy full auto guns on the internet.
They hold hundreds of rounds it seems.

I didn't catch where exactly to order one though.

how many you need? i know a guy that will sell you case upon case of full autos. they will hold thousands of rounds. not hundreds like most.

i can put out fake news too.
 
Guys, I just checked, my AR is still locked in the safe, luckily it didn't escape.
Might have to have a security camera installed on the INSIDE of the safe, you never know when one of those rascals will get loose.
 
I would not go as extreme to say the CIA or US Government drugged and hypnotized these teens to shoot up their schools, nor they even encourage us having "military" firearms. But this written about school shootings and the fear being instilled to chip away at the second Amendment is pretty spot on. Columbine did not take place until 1999, school shootings were not the norm when this was written;

 
Sure makes you wonder how this guy was not stopped.
He posted on Youtube that he was going to be a school shooter, under his own name. He was reported, but we all know what happened last week.
 
Didn’t this thug go to a Subway and then a McDonalds after the shooting ? Shouldn’t the liberals be going after them for harboring a fugitive
 
A couple years ago I posted on one of the PM forums here that everyone should join the NRA, State association, and a local gun club to fight bad legislation. I got ripped apart by someone listing everything he didn't agree with all the way back to, I think 1970. Anyway, the time is now to all stick together and support the NRA. They are the best we got, if we don't we will loose for sure. The two clubs I belong to require membership, and I am proud of that. The group I hunt with once found out one had let his membership lapse, put him thru [beeep] in camp, even called his father long distance [this guy was in his late 20's], and he caught [beeep] when he gt home. Anyway, the time is now, don't tell me about the phone calls, or mail, that's just BS. Join. There is no group, club, church, or organization that we agree with 100%. . The anti's are getting better organized all the time, and are getting the kids involved big time, but we can win this. I know there are other groups, but no one has the clout of the NRA. I'll stick my neck out again, and say it, if you are a gun owner and don't support the NRA you support Bloomberg and the rest by your silence.
 
I am an NRA member.
I don't like having stuff in the mail or calls seems like every day.
So if you give them a call and talk to them about it they can put a note on your account to stop that till it is time to renew.
They said they just sent that stuff to everyone because it's cheaper than sorting it out.
I told them I don't mind putting in a little extra when I renew.

It is the best we got.
It's a shame that money has to be spent to protect what the 2nd provides instead of education and training.
 
Quote:I know there are other groups, but no one has the clout of the NRA.

Quote:It is the best we got.
It's a shame that money has to be spent to protect what the 2nd provides instead of education and training.

^^^^^^^^^^^X1000

While NRA spends lots of money fighting for our 2nd Amendment rights (largely dependent upon donations), NRA's clout is multiplied by the five million members' and their families' voting strength.

As John stated, you don't like receiving their mail, give them a call 800-672-3888 and ask to be removed from the solicitation list.

Surely we can all spare the price of a box of ammunition for NRA dues to help support our 2A rights.

Regards,
hm
 


I also don't think it's that extreme either, but without ever reading or hearing about what's there in print I had a similar thought.
Let things happen that may have been prevented in order to create a atmosphere where a particular agenda can be implemented. Seems like the FBI is missing a lot of red flags, too many!
911 brings this to mind, locked cockpit doors like Israel had---too expensive, but after 911 they weren't! ????????
 
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Florida school shooting: Gun law changes attract renewed GOP interest

Joseph Weber By Joseph Weber | Fox News

Josh Lederman on strengthening background checks.

The massacre at a Florida high school has revived an all-too-familiar national debate on gun control – but this time, public pressure combined with fresh presidential interest could spur at least some changes in the country's gun laws.

Most recently, the White House said President Trump backs efforts to improve the country's background check system. His abrupt involvement could be the nudge for action in a Congress divided on virtually every issue.

“We want to make sure that the background check process is fully staffed and that all information gets in,” White House spokesman Raj Shah said Monday on "Fox & Friends," describing the current system as a "patchwork."

Trump specifically has taken interest in bipartisan Senate legislation that would bolster the National Instant Criminal Background Check System -- a nationwide database for gun sellers that helps prevent the purchase of guns by criminals, the mentally ill and others considered too dangerous to own a firearm.

The Republican-controlled House already passed a measure to strengthen or fix the so-called NICS system, as part of legislation approved in December 2017 that also would allow gun owners more freedom to take a firearm across state lines.

“The House passed legislation to enforce existing law, improve compliance with the federal background check system, address the bump stock issue, as well as strengthen the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens,” North Carolina GOP Rep. Richard Hudson, whose gun-reciprocity plan was included the measure, told Fox News on Monday.

The reciprocity provision is a conservative priority that might not attract bipartisan support in the Senate.

President Trump backs efforts to improve federal gun background checks.

The Senate version, as originally introduced last fall, mostly focused on the background check system. Trump spoke last week with Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the Senate’s No. 2 Republican and co-sponsor of that "Fix NICS" measure.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement that their discussion focused on efforts to “improve federal compliance” with criminal background check legislation. She said the president is “supportive” of such efforts but cautioned that “discussions are ongoing and revisions are being considered.”

Cornyn has been working on a version of the bill since at least last year and suggested well before the Florida massacre that it had “good bipartisan support.” The plan also tries to ensure that federal and state authorities submit critical information like criminal convictions to the database.


With no apparent indications of a breakthrough in the Senate to avoid a government shutdown, Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, speaks briefly with reporters outside his office on Capitol Hill in Washington, Friday, Jan. 19, 2018. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Sen. John Cornyn is working on bipartisan background check system legislation. (AP)

The National Rifle Association, considered the country’s most influential gun-rights group, also is backing congressional efforts to improve the system.

Whether this leads to congressional action, or political point-scoring, remains to be seen.

Both the NRA and Trump were hammered by gun control advocates in the wake of last week's massacre, where the shooter had an AR-15-style rifle. Trump took heat for his initial comments focusing largely on the issue of mental health.

He, in turn, has hammered the FBI after the bureau admitted it failed to follow up on clear warnings about the shooter.

“Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable,” he tweeted, accusing agents of being distracted by the Russia probe.

Other presidents have put their support behind efforts to stop gun violence, only to see such initiatives fail in Congress, most notably after gunman Adam Lanza killed seven adults and 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School, in Newtown, Conn., in December 2012.

“As a country, we have been through this too many times,” then-President Barack Obama said afterward. “We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.”

However, the Senate, then controlled by the president’s fellow Democrats, couldn’t pass any proposals to change gun laws.

The gun control debate has played out after virtually every mass shooting since April 1999, when two teens killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before killing themselves inside their Columbine High School, in Littleton, Colo.

Trump visits Parkland community reeling from deadly school shooting, praises first responders; Kevin Corke reports from West Palm Beach, Florida.
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President Trump, first lady visit school shooting victims

But the most-recent calls for action could escalate the pressure -- including nationwide rallies planned next month by students who survived last week’s shooting in Florida. Seventeen people were killed in the attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, in Parkland, Fla.

Trump is scheduled Wednesday to host students and teachers at the White House to talk about school safety. And he plans to meet Thursday with state and local officials on the issue.

A frequent Trump critic, Ohio's moderate Republican Gov. John Kasich, has publicly urged Trump to lead efforts to curb gun violence.

“Mr. President, America needs real leadership. We need to take common sense steps NOW to protect our kids. From one father to another, let’s protect them,” he tweeted over the weekend.


Kasich says he remains a strong Second Amendment supporter but is calling for changes – perhaps at a state or local level – such as improving background checks and increasing attention on the connection between mental illness and gun violence. (A pro-gun section on his political website reportedly was scrubbed amid his new calls for changes to the law.)

While Kasich's view is unlikely to shape presidential policy, other factors are at play. Al Hoffman Jr., a prominent Republican political donor, reportedly has vowed to withhold contributions from candidates who don’t support a ban on the sale of assault weapons. And he suggested he would rally other GOP donors to follow his lead.

Such an ultimatum would be an unexpected turn in the Washington debate over guns laws, and it's unclear how much support Hoffman might get from fellow donors.

A major argument from Second Amendment advocates is that tougher laws won’t keep guns away from potential mass killers and others committing or trying to commit crimes.

Another reason why gun legislation in difficult to pass in Congress is that Republicans, particularly from rural or other conservative districts, could face tough primary challenges if they vote for stricter laws.

As for Cornyn's plan, Hudson said he’s yet to see the text of the legislation but encouraged senators to consider his Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017.

Hudson submitted his measure after 25 people were killed in November 2017 at a Texas church by a former Air Force member.

The Air Force later admitted it had failed to enter into a federal database that the killer had been convicted in 2004 of domestic violence, a charge that could have prevented him from buying a gun.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/...p-interest.html

Regards,
hm
 
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