Predator Masters using UBB.threads ™ Infopop Corporation.
PM Gear Moon & Weather

Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums
Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at





PM Gear
PM Gear
PM Gear
The Official Predator Masters Search Engine
Search Predator Masters

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#3125036 - 01/21/18 05:39 PM Suppressor decision for various calibers
kfin Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/23/08
Posts: 58
Loc: MO
I have a rimfire suppressor for my 10/22. Now since being on this site and taking up calling I want to get one for my other guns, at least my 223s.

Current gun line up that would possibly be suppressed, at least in the future is:

300 win mag, rarely shoot this one anymore, however any of you who have ever shot one knows it could benefit from having one lol

243, this is my deer hunting and now and then I'll shoot a coyote with it. Don't really need a suppressor for it but would be cool. smile

223, I have 2 of these. These are my calling guns, mainly coyotes.

I am getting ready to pick up another rifle in the next week. It will either be a 22-250 or 223 (I just like that caliber and like loading it). In the future I will probably pick up either a 204 or 17 Hornet.

All of these are bolt action guns as I have not taken the AR plunge yet and seriously doubt that I will.

In all likelihood I will be getting a TBAC Ultra 7. I don't want to get into a best caliber discussion or a best suppressor question. My biggest question is which size suppressor to get. None of my guns are threaded except for 1 of the 223s so I will have to do that also for anything I want to shoot suppressed.

Choice 1. I could get a 30 caliber one and use it for all of them right now (or a year from now lol). But wouldn't I be losing a lot of the noise reduction with it on the 223s?

Choice 2. I could get a 6.5 mm one and use it for everything except the 300 wm. If I went this route would I lose very much in the noise reduction on the 223s? It would fit the 243 but not the 300 wm but again, I rarely shoot that gun. If I did this the odds are heavy that the 300 wm would never be suppressed as I would probably get the 223 can in a year or two.

Choice 3. This one that I think I like the most is to get a 223 sized can now and use it on the guns I use the most. It would also fit any of the future purchases I'm thinking of now (22-250, 204, 17 Hornet) but wouldn't fit on the 243. If I did this, I could later get a 30 caliber one to use on the 2 bigger rifles and really wouldn't be that concerned about how much I lose using a 30 caliber can on a 243...

In a perfect world I would just get all 3 but that isn't going to happen. I'm sure many of you have wrangled with this decision. What did you do? Were you happy/pissed? Wish you had done something else? If so, what would you have done differently.

Sorry for the long post but you guys know your stuff and have the experience that I am lacking on this one.

Thanks for any thoughts and experiences.

Top
#3125044 - 01/21/18 06:20 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
Plant.One Offline
Die Hard Member with a vengeance

Registered: 02/12/15
Posts: 4489
Loc: Oakland County, MI
i have and use a 30 caliber suppressor for everything from my 308 down to my 204.

it does fantastic with the small stuff, i'm sure i'm losing some efficiency, but its still respectable and the 223 and the 204 it reallllly takes the edge off to where i all i use is light earplugs.
_________________________
All reloading info shared is based on my experiences in my guns. Follow safe reloading practice and work up loads from published minimum data.
This disclaimer will self destruct in 10 seconds.


Top
#3125048 - 01/21/18 06:28 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
Catdog1 Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 02/17/16
Posts: 569
Loc: Prarie ghost
SilencerCo Omega

Top
#3125062 - 01/21/18 07:16 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
kooman Online
Seasoned Member

Registered: 02/10/13
Posts: 386
Loc: nebraska
Get a 30 cal can and a thread adapter and don't look back

Top
#3125093 - 01/21/18 08:18 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
kfin Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/23/08
Posts: 58
Loc: MO
I find the replies interesting about simply getting a 30 caliber can and going about life. Not doubting you guys at all, and I'm sure they will work and I would be happy with one. Why do they make the smaller caliber ones then? Lighter? Some reduced noise from using a caliber specific can? Or just so we will all buy 4 or 5? lol

Just curious about the difference in using a 30 caliber can vs a 223 caliber can on my bolt action 223s.

Thanks for the replies. It's all appreciated.

Top
#3125153 - 01/21/18 10:10 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
mr fixit Offline
New Member

Registered: 01/18/14
Posts: 6
Loc: N.E. Texas
Originally Posted By: kfin
I find the replies interesting about simply getting a 30 caliber can and going about life. Not doubting you guys at all, and I'm sure they will work and I would be happy with one. Why do they make the smaller caliber ones then? Lighter? Some reduced noise from using a caliber specific can? Or just so we will all buy 4 or 5? lol

Just curious about the difference in using a 30 caliber can vs a 223 caliber can on my bolt action 223s.

Thanks for the replies. It's all appreciated.


In general, a .30 cal can will be larger. The increased size of the can makes up for the over-sized bore for the most part.

A dedicated can in .223 can be slightly quieter than a .30 cal can on the same .223 rifle. However the difference is slight and probably less than the difference between an average can and a great can.

Top
#3125259 - 01/22/18 10:10 AM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
Nonnieselman Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 12/01/10
Posts: 638
Loc: CS, MS
When we first got into the Class III stuff we tested alot of different cans and found out that a 30 cal can on a 223 vs a 223 can on a 223 there was no difference that we could tell with our ears.
223 can is just smaller and lighter if thats all you wanted to use one on.
I wanted to be one and done so i bought a Yankee Hill Machine 7.62 Phantom SS. Hunted with it for years then splurged for the YHM 7.62 Phantom Ti that is half of the weight. It was worth every penny.
I use it on everything form 223 to 300WM.

I vote go 30 Caliber can and be done. Its amazing at the recoil reduction on the 300WM.

Top
#3125265 - 01/22/18 10:24 AM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: Nonnieselman]
mr fixit Offline
New Member

Registered: 01/18/14
Posts: 6
Loc: N.E. Texas
I would suggest getting a 30 cal can with something other than a direct thread mount, something like a Griffon Taper mount or similar from other manufacturers. That way you have one can that will handle any of your rifles from .204 through .300, and you only have to buy a mount for each rifle you want to use it on.

Top
#3125272 - 01/22/18 10:37 AM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
gotspots Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 08/25/13
Posts: 249
Loc: Western Colorado
I run a TBAC ultra 7 30cal. on everything from .17 mach IV up to 30-338, No issues switch back and forth. whisper quiet on the sub 6mm's and awesome on the big guns.

Top
#3125314 - 01/22/18 12:54 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: gotspots]
B23 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2313
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: gotspots
I run a TBAC ultra 7 30cal. on everything from .17 mach IV up to 30-338, No issues switch back and forth. whisper quiet on the sub 6mm's and awesome on the big guns.


If I were starting all over, this is exactly what I'd do, one TBAC Ultra 7 .30cal can and done.

Also, with regard to weight, a top quality suppressor like the Ultra series from TBAC weighs the same regardless if it's a .223 specific or .30 cal can. Actually, I'd be surprised if a Ultra 7 .30cal can didn't weigh just a tiny sliver less than a Ultra 7 .223 can due to the fact the hole is larger in the .30cal suppressor and there would be a tiny bit less material but even if there is any difference, I'm sure it's minuscule.

Top
#3125332 - 01/22/18 01:34 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
Lefty SRH Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 2037
Loc: North AL
I am looking and considering cans also. I deally Id like one can for all my centerfire rifles.
Whats is a TBAC Ultra 7?
I own and shoot
Three .223 bolt rifles
One 22-243 Winchester (bolt)
One 6.5 Lapua (bolt)
One short barreled .308 (bolt)


Edited by Lefty SRH (01/22/18 01:36 PM)
_________________________
Longest kill shot to date, 620yds with a custom built 22-243 Win.

"In GOD We Trust"

Top
#3125339 - 01/22/18 02:07 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: Lefty SRH]
B23 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/07/11
Posts: 2313
Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: Lefty SRH
I am looking and considering cans also. I deally Id like one can for all my centerfire rifles.
Whats is a TBAC Ultra 7?
I own and shoot
Three .223 bolt rifles
One 22-243 Winchester (bolt)
One 6.5 Lapua (bolt)
One short barreled .308 (bolt)


https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/ultra-7

Top
#3125412 - 01/22/18 07:46 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
Lefty SRH Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 2037
Loc: North AL
Thanks B23
_________________________
Longest kill shot to date, 620yds with a custom built 22-243 Win.

"In GOD We Trust"

Top
#3125997 - 01/24/18 08:37 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
jasonprox700 Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 11/07/06
Posts: 687
Loc: West Central Wisconsin
I was in the same boat. Wanted to suppress everything from 5.56's and 308 AR's, 22-250 up to 280 in bolts (eventually 300WM). I wanted user serviceable and quick detach with the option of direct thread adapters.

I ended up going with a Griffin Armament Alpha and I've been extremely happy with that decision. It's a great suppressor with great db rating and tone.

I also dove into the Form 1 world. The GA muzzle devices fit nicely with these also, so that was a bonus and gives me more options.

Top
#3126172 - 01/25/18 01:07 PM Re: Suppressor decision for various calibers [Re: kfin]
Walking Man Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/13/17
Posts: 43
Loc: South Dakota
I doubt you would notice the difference in sound reduction between a .30 can and .223 can on your smaller riffles.

You will likely notice the difference in the length and possible weight first.

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >



Moderator:  SnowmanMo 

© Predator Masters™, All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.