dan brothers
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I totally agree with this thread that everyone needs a Hot Rod 22 cal heavy bullet coyote killing machine. I ran the ballistics on my 22-243AI with 80 amax at 3558 fps.. vs... the 22 creed with 80 amax at 3400 and they are pretty dog-gone close... by listing them both with a .231 G7 BC.
My 22-243 will shoot another 150 fps ...BUT... it's not needed... and the 22 creed won't really need anymore as well. Mine would go up to 3700 fps...BUT Not as accurate as at 3558.
Just to show you a comparison... at 600 yds... with a 10 mph cross wind... my 22-243 only does 3-3/4" better with less bullet drop and 1-1/2" less bullet drift that the 22 creed... that ain't much of a difference...that still puts it in a coyote.
I zero mine at 300 yds, which makes it's highest bullet rise of 2.78" at 150 yds...(creed 3.14) and 6.87" (creed 7.63") bullet drop at 400 yds. I hold dead-on for coyotes up to 350 yds, and on their backs at 400 yds. You never have to move a turret until you pass 400 yds.
But of course if you don't like that much rise at 150 yds, then bring her on down more...BUT... you are missing out on the true advantage of a hot rod heavy bullet combo...and you can always aim a tad lower at those close range shots if you want to hit them dead on... but a 2-3" rise bullet impact on close range shots, will kill them all day long. But once again... if you don't want... a kind of dead-on hold... out to 400 yds, then lower your zero range.
When I first started with my 22-243AI, I wondered now and then if I had the best BC setup for long range... so every time someone posted their hot rod caliber and high speeds, I'd add it to my BC Program and compare it with the hot and heavy .22 caliber bullets... and none really compared in bullet drops and bullet drifts...ONLY MY 20-250AI 3770 fps, with 55 bergers stood toe to toe with it. As a matter of fact...they are really identical out to 600 yds...then the 22 edges out the 20, but only slightly.
My point to this whole thing is.... YES SIR.... GET YOU A HOT ROD- HEAVY BULLET- .22 CAL COYOTE KILLER.
AMEN...LOL.
EDIT..PS... this rifle has become my favorite deer rifle. When shot in the shoulder on purpose.. Big Bucks have NO CHOICE but to dump right there.
My 22-243 will shoot another 150 fps ...BUT... it's not needed... and the 22 creed won't really need anymore as well. Mine would go up to 3700 fps...BUT Not as accurate as at 3558.
Just to show you a comparison... at 600 yds... with a 10 mph cross wind... my 22-243 only does 3-3/4" better with less bullet drop and 1-1/2" less bullet drift that the 22 creed... that ain't much of a difference...that still puts it in a coyote.
I zero mine at 300 yds, which makes it's highest bullet rise of 2.78" at 150 yds...(creed 3.14) and 6.87" (creed 7.63") bullet drop at 400 yds. I hold dead-on for coyotes up to 350 yds, and on their backs at 400 yds. You never have to move a turret until you pass 400 yds.
But of course if you don't like that much rise at 150 yds, then bring her on down more...BUT... you are missing out on the true advantage of a hot rod heavy bullet combo...and you can always aim a tad lower at those close range shots if you want to hit them dead on... but a 2-3" rise bullet impact on close range shots, will kill them all day long. But once again... if you don't want... a kind of dead-on hold... out to 400 yds, then lower your zero range.
When I first started with my 22-243AI, I wondered now and then if I had the best BC setup for long range... so every time someone posted their hot rod caliber and high speeds, I'd add it to my BC Program and compare it with the hot and heavy .22 caliber bullets... and none really compared in bullet drops and bullet drifts...ONLY MY 20-250AI 3770 fps, with 55 bergers stood toe to toe with it. As a matter of fact...they are really identical out to 600 yds...then the 22 edges out the 20, but only slightly.
My point to this whole thing is.... YES SIR.... GET YOU A HOT ROD- HEAVY BULLET- .22 CAL COYOTE KILLER.
AMEN...LOL.
EDIT..PS... this rifle has become my favorite deer rifle. When shot in the shoulder on purpose.. Big Bucks have NO CHOICE but to dump right there.
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