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#3123281 - 01/16/18 10:05 AM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: liliysdad]
Cinch Offline
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Registered: 10/03/10
Posts: 529
Loc: Wyoming
Originally Posted By: liliysdad
They have 6mm Creed, no 22 Creed. Last date I got from them was end of February. I managed to get a hold of 20pc of the 22 Creed run...and it is nice.



Copper Creek is also an Alpha brass dealer and they are out of stock as well...
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#3123431 - 01/16/18 05:45 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: Cinch]
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Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 693
Loc: Yukon, OK-ish
Originally Posted By: Cinch
Huckleberry and Orkan have quite a bit of knowledge and experience with this cartridge...


Not sure if I have quite a bit, but I have enough to know that it is bar-none, my favorite cartridge to shoot besides a good old .22lr. It has very mild recoil and is absolutely devastating on the business end of it. I am not caught up on getting every last round out of the barrel, so if I can get 1000-1500rds, I will be plenty happy. With the 80gn class of bullets, my loads carry 1000#kE at 500yds when starting at 3393fps from a 22" 8 twist. The Lapua small primer brass is exceptional on handling pressure, and allows you to lean on it even harder than the Hornady brass if you so choose. JCH and I both run one with the 80.5gn Berger Fullbore with 42.2gns of H4350. He hit a whitetail with it this year and it left a baseball size hole going into the rib cage and jelloed the thoracic cavity. Lilysdad runs the 69gn TMK in his, if I recall correctly, with excellent results as well.

Cinch, Jason said you were running it with great results as well.

In short, build one and don't look back.

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#3123435 - 01/16/18 06:02 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: Huckleberry75]
Cinch Offline
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Registered: 10/03/10
Posts: 529
Loc: Wyoming
Originally Posted By: Huckleberry75
Originally Posted By: Cinch
Huckleberry and Orkan have quite a bit of knowledge and experience with this cartridge...


Not sure if I have quite a bit, but I have enough to know that it is bar-none, my favorite cartridge to shoot besides a good old .22lr. It has very mild recoil and is absolutely devastating on the business end of it. I am not caught up on getting every last round out of the barrel, so if I can get 1000-1500rds, I will be plenty happy. With the 80gn class of bullets, my loads carry 1000#kE at 500yds when starting at 3393fps from a 22" 8 twist. The Lapua small primer brass is exceptional on handling pressure, and allows you to lean on it even harder than the Hornady brass if you so choose. JCH and I both run one with the 80.5gn Berger Fullbore with 42.2gns of H4350. He hit a whitetail with it this year and it left a baseball size hole going into the rib cage and jelloed the thoracic cavity. Lilysdad runs the 69gn TMK in his, if I recall correctly, with excellent results as well.

Cinch, Jason said you were running it with great results as well.

In short, build one and don't look back.


I'm running the 75gr Amax in my heavy 26" at 3425 with 40.5gr Hybrid 100V in Hornady brass... that same load in Alpha brass will get you around 3525...
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#3123446 - 01/16/18 06:27 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: Cinch]
Huckleberry75 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 693
Loc: Yukon, OK-ish
Originally Posted By: Cinch
Originally Posted By: Huckleberry75
Originally Posted By: Cinch
Huckleberry and Orkan have quite a bit of knowledge and experience with this cartridge...


Not sure if I have quite a bit, but I have enough to know that it is bar-none, my favorite cartridge to shoot besides a good old .22lr. It has very mild recoil and is absolutely devastating on the business end of it. I am not caught up on getting every last round out of the barrel, so if I can get 1000-1500rds, I will be plenty happy. With the 80gn class of bullets, my loads carry 1000#kE at 500yds when starting at 3393fps from a 22" 8 twist. The Lapua small primer brass is exceptional on handling pressure, and allows you to lean on it even harder than the Hornady brass if you so choose. JCH and I both run one with the 80.5gn Berger Fullbore with 42.2gns of H4350. He hit a whitetail with it this year and it left a baseball size hole going into the rib cage and jelloed the thoracic cavity. Lilysdad runs the 69gn TMK in his, if I recall correctly, with excellent results as well.

Cinch, Jason said you were running it with great results as well.

In short, build one and don't look back.


I'm running the 75gr Amax in my heavy 26" at 3425 with 40.5gr Hybrid 100V in Hornady brass... that same load in Alpha brass will get you around 3525...


JCH also said that the Alpha brass had smaller capacity. Our standard load of 42.2gns of H4350 in the Alpha brass was causing heavy swipes. Bolt lift and pressure signs. I woukd recommend to anyone going from Hornady or Lapua brass to the Alpha offering to drop down and work back up, because your load might have excessive pressure if not.

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#3123455 - 01/16/18 06:53 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: Cinch]
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Registered: 12/07/11
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Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: Cinch


I'm running the 75gr Amax in my heavy 26" at 3425 with 40.5gr Hybrid 100V in Hornady brass... that same load in Alpha brass will get you around 3525...


Are you running the 75gr Amax very close to touching or are you running them off the lands a bit? I've mostly only shot 75gr VLD's and they like to be real close to the lands but I'd like to play around with some 75gr Amax and was curious where these are shooting best for you.

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#3123456 - 01/16/18 06:56 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: thoms715]
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Loc: Pacific NW
Has anyone tried any RL26 in their 22 Creed??? I'd think RL26 would be a top performer with regard to velocity in this size case.

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#3123506 - 01/16/18 08:57 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: B23]
Cinch Offline
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Registered: 10/03/10
Posts: 529
Loc: Wyoming
Originally Posted By: B23
Originally Posted By: Cinch


I'm running the 75gr Amax in my heavy 26" at 3425 with 40.5gr Hybrid 100V in Hornady brass... that same load in Alpha brass will get you around 3525...


Are you running the 75gr Amax very close to touching or are you running them off the lands a bit? I've mostly only shot 75gr VLD's and they like to be real close to the lands but I'd like to play around with some 75gr Amax and was curious where these are shooting best for you.


If I remember correctly I'm .015 off the lands with the 75 Amax...
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#3123508 - 01/16/18 09:03 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: B23]
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Registered: 10/25/09
Posts: 2996
Loc: Radiator Springs
Originally Posted By: B23
Has anyone tried any RL26 in their 22 Creed??? I'd think RL26 would be a top performer with regard to velocity in this size case.



Rl26 will be a bit to slow, I think and will not work as well as Rl17 or the coveted Rl16, now That would likely be THE ticket. Rl16.........If you can find some.
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#3123518 - 01/16/18 09:18 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: B23]
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Registered: 02/21/09
Posts: 785
Loc: OKC,OK
Originally Posted By: B23
Has anyone tried any RL26 in their 22 Creed??? I'd think RL26 would be a top performer with regard to velocity in this size case.


I did. Speed was good, accuracy wasn’t. Went to H4350 and never looked back.

24” barrel; 1-8” twist; Hornady brass; 80.5 Berger at 3440fps
The same set up with Alpha 22cm headstamp brass was as follows:
Alpha 22cm brass 80.5 h4350
41.0 = 3365
41.1 = 3392
41.2 = 3395
41.3 = 3397
41.4 = 3410 ejector swipe
41.5 = 3410 no swipe
41.6 = 3432 ejector swipe

Alpha 22cm 69gr TMK
41.4 = 3495 SD 18.5
41.8 = 3516 SD 12.0
42.2 = 3535 SD 4.3
42.6 = 3572 SD 11.5
43.0 = 3610 one shot major ejector sticky bolt aborted last 2
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#3123531 - 01/16/18 09:36 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: thoms715]
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Registered: 12/07/11
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Loc: Pacific NW
Anyone measure the case capacity with water in one of these 22 Creeds with Alpha brass??

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#3123537 - 01/16/18 09:48 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: JCH]
liliysdad Offline
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Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 1196
Loc: Oklahoma
Originally Posted By: JCH


Alpha 22cm 69gr TMK
41.4 = 3495 SD 18.5
41.8 = 3516 SD 12.0
42.2 = 3535 SD 4.3
42.6 = 3572 SD 11.5
43.0 = 3610 one shot major ejector sticky bolt aborted last 2



These numbers echo mine very closely, with the same bullet being pushed by Varget in Hornady cases.


Edited by liliysdad (01/16/18 09:48 PM)

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#3123566 - 01/16/18 11:39 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: liliysdad]
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Registered: 02/02/14
Posts: 78
Loc: Stratford Texas
Have any of ya'll tried H4831sc? Might be worth a try in small caliber/large bullet combo.
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#3123647 - 01/17/18 09:41 AM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: thoms715]
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Registered: 12/29/06
Posts: 1196
Loc: Oklahoma
IN something like this with such a short barrel life...I am of the opinion that once I find a load that works, I stick with it. For me, the Varget/69TMK was almost an accident, but its showing good numbers, and superb accuracy. I figure I will just keep shooting it and killing stuff.

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#3123655 - 01/17/18 10:25 AM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: thoms715]
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Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 693
Loc: Yukon, OK-ish
Exactly ^^^^^^^^^^^ Let the killing continue

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#3123699 - 01/17/18 12:34 PM Re: 22 Creedmoor [Re: thoms715]
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Registered: 12/25/14
Posts: 2093
Loc: Texas Panhandle
I found my 22x47 load within 20 minutes and I’m still shooting it 300 rounds later. I agree it wasn’t worth burning up a bunch of barrel life.
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