Thanks Lance, These were Ridgeviewer calls. He was one of the short lived call makers from this site many years ago. Much like Pilgrim. I don't follow it as much as I used to, but back in the day the hobby went through a "wood of the month" phase. This was one of those phases. I don't remember a lot of call makers trying it, but there were a couple. If I remember correctly this wood took a little more time to prep for spinning. (Might be easier today?)