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#3094687 - 10/02/17 04:47 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: songdog]
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Originally Posted By: songdog
my guess is if someone had even TRIED to return fire with a handgun, good chance that he/she would've been shot by police because no one really seemed to know where the shots were coming from.
Firing a CCW in this scenario would've been, well, just stupid.


Winner, winner chicken dinner.
I live here and have carried in that particular venue. A pistol would have done no one any good. Unless you had a scoped rifle and were a good shot with a dead rest and know where the fire was coming from could a weapon on the ground have done any good. That's provided the cops didn't shoot you first for having a weapon at an active shooting.
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#3094696 - 10/02/17 05:57 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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Sunday Bloody Sunday in the city of sin. Looking at this with the second largest and recent mass shooting at the pulse night club, gives me a Sodom and Gamorra vibe. Sadly we have the Clarleston church shooting as a rebuttal.

Flipping the switch to the stage lights could have saved a lot of lives. I watch the footage and all I can think about is "KILL THE LIGHTS!" For the love of God kill the lights...

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#3094709 - 10/02/17 07:14 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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Registered: 07/30/15
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Condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.






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#3094730 - 10/02/17 08:29 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
6724 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 3066
Loc: colorado
A whole bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks.

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#3094732 - 10/02/17 08:40 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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Registered: 07/07/09
Posts: 2207
Loc: TN
I'm curious as to why the wackadoodle did it. I fear it has a political slant as most folks that like country music are conservative patriots plus the Antifa crowd have been bragging lately about their new arsenal of AK-47's. This could very well be the start of a civil war of sorts.

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#3094759 - 10/02/17 09:52 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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Registered: 05/17/09
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I'm laying money on a terminal illness and he wanted to go out making a point if something.
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#3094761 - 10/02/17 10:01 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Tnslim]
wybob Offline
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Registered: 12/21/08
Posts: 382
Loc: southwest wyoming
He is described through the media as a fairly normal, wealthy retired guy. A man who liked and owned many firearms, with no reason as of yet to do this. Why, the perfect patsy for a specific agenda, maybe.

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#3094780 - 10/02/17 10:48 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: wybob]
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Originally Posted By: wybob
He is described through the media as a fairly normal, wealthy retired guy. A man who liked and owned many firearms, with no reason as of yet to do this. Why, the perfect patsy for a specific agenda, maybe.


That's funny. Don't believe everything you hear from the media. His brother said he wasn't a gun fanatic, had no military background, and he doesn't have a clue where or when he got all the guns.
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#3094790 - 10/02/17 11:35 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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I sure don't believe anything the MSM has to say about it. Who knows what is really behind it. There has definitely been an agenda for gun control for a long time.

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#3094791 - 10/02/17 11:47 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: wybob]
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Originally Posted By: wybob
He is described through the media as a fairly normal, wealthy retired guy. A man who liked and owned many firearms, with no reason as of yet to do this. Why, the perfect patsy for a specific agenda, maybe.



Perhaps. It certainly shouldn't be ruled out. There should be plenty of camera or video surveillance around a casino.
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#3094793 - 10/02/17 11:52 PM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: crapshoot]
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Loc: WY
Originally Posted By: crapshoot
Originally Posted By: wybob
He is described through the media as a fairly normal, wealthy retired guy. A man who liked and owned many firearms, with no reason as of yet to do this. Why, the perfect patsy for a specific agenda, maybe.


That's funny. Don't believe everything you hear from the media. His brother said he wasn't a gun fanatic, had no military background, and he doesn't have a clue where or when he got all the guns.



Of course the media is going to make him out to be a gun fanatic lunatic. The fact is is that gun fanatics don't do these types of things...
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#3094814 - 10/03/17 06:57 AM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Infidel 762]
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Registered: 03/09/17
Posts: 665
Loc: 2D Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: Infidel 762
Sunday Bloody Sunday in the city of sin. Looking at this with the second largest and recent mass shooting at the pulse night club, gives me a Sodom and Gamorra vibe. Sadly we have the Clarleston church shooting as a rebuttal.

Flipping the switch to the stage lights could have saved a lot of lives. I watch the footage and all I can think about is "KILL THE LIGHTS!" For the love of God kill the lights...


I really can't get behind the idea of god punishing us for sins. This is simply the result of a deity giving it's creation free will. If it was a punishment from god, don't you think the almighty would lay its own hand down?

But, moving on, killing the lights wouldn't have done anything either. This guy was clearly motivated to kill a lot of people, and I highly doubt he chose soft points or hollow points for his ammo. Probably FMJ's that would've killed people with ricochets. Not to mention Vegas is full of lights. We've all looked across a field during a full moon. Not much different here.
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#3094826 - 10/03/17 08:30 AM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 3066
Loc: colorado
From what I have read, he was an anti-Trump, proud democrat, Rachel Maddow watching, lefty. According to his brother he was not into guns. There is video of a guy that probably is him wearing a pink [beeep] hat at a Reno anti-Trump even two weeks earlier. I just read this am that he had ammonium nitrate in his car, that at least two of the guns were modified to be full auto.
This is not the work of some guy who was not into guns. This was someone who had to work on this for a considerable time prior to the shooting. I doubt we will ever know the whole story, but it doesn't pass the smell test. There are too many conflicting bits of information.

Anyone here read Matt Bracken's book "Enemies, foreign and domestic". This event is straight out of the book.

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#3094830 - 10/03/17 08:51 AM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
GC Offline
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Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 16940
Loc: Missouri
After watching several videos of this tragedy I'm struck by three things. The fact that many people just layed down and did nothing, the fact many people felt the first and best thing to do was to get the phone out and video as they were hunkered down in the open getting shot at with full auto rifle fire and the numbers of people that wouldn't drop their beer while they ran or while they lay on the ground hoping they didn't get shot. Amazing ...
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#3094831 - 10/03/17 08:53 AM Re: Las Vegas Shooting 50 Reported Dead 200 Injured [Re: Foxpro.223]
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Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 1282
Loc: Michigan,Mackinac county
They need to find out where this sick Bas---D did his shooting practice and the family saying they did not know anything in his history that would make them think something was wrong with him I callBS
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