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if they were giving them to illegal aliens it would be done already. It would mean more votes for the libtards and socialisim.
 
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Originally Posted By: lyotehunterif they were giving them to illegal aliens it would be done already.

Sad but true
 
Originally Posted By: skinneyOriginally Posted By: CinchIt would be nice... but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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There are 200 something bills from the House waiting for the Senate actions..

it's way past time to replace these deadbeat old farts that think it's all about their Rino hides. Primary them out.

AZ looks poised to get rid of the Flake, and I have personally asked Ward if she would support the Hearing protection Act, and she did.. McLiar should thankfully be gone in a year, to serve out the rest of eternity in the hottest part of [beeep]. (i hope satin creates a new hotter level for him)
 
and the senate is a big part of the problem as to why this has almost no chance of getting anywhere.


with B!tch McConnell in there leading the never-trump bandwagon nothing usefull is going to get done.

that SOB is a >30 year waste of a seat. unfortunately his home constituents seem to love him unconditionally - even though his current poll shows him only at 18% favorable and only 37% would actually vote for him. ( source )

i'll hold my breath for him getting knocked off his podium right up there with this (or any suppressor freedom bill) passing the senate during the current presidency
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i never had a single thought during last years election that if Trump won the Rino's would be more of a road block than the Dems.
 
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZi never had a single thought during last years election that if Trump won the Rino's would be more of a road block than the Dems.

i know, right?
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i thought we had a serious "heres your chance boys, go get em" type of moment... and then *fizzle* nothing.


i think i am as generally disappointed in the GOP house/senate as a whole as i have ever been in my adult life.


over 8 years of talking a good game, they get handed the keys to the kingdom and you'd think you turned a bunch of nerdy 9th graders loose at their first highschool dance
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i truly fear that if they dont get their poop in a group - and soon - that there's gonna be [beeep] to pay at the ballot box next year both in the form of retribution votes and poor gop voter turnout.
 
I'm not even a tiny bit surprised. Predicted it. Trump ain't one of them. And by "them" I mean all of them, both sides of the aisle. Writing was on the wall how this would go before the GOP primaries were even over.

Turn off the sound. Don't listen to a single word any one of them ever says. Ignore all "attempts" at anything, just pretend they never happened. Look only at what actually gets done. Consider only the accomplished fact. Then try to to tell them apart, republican, democrat. If you don't listen to what they say or give any credit for legislation they allegedly attempt to get through, they are all pretty much exactly the same. The only really distinguishing characteristic is the flavor of lies they tell to appeal to their audience and the forms of pandering they perpetrate to try and appeal to that same audience come time to vote.

End of the day they all serve the same money masters and their own self interest.

- DAA
 
Originally Posted By: DAAEnd of the day they all serve the same money masters and their own self interest.

- DAA

Truer words were never spoken in regards to the American body politic. With rare exceptions, they ALL want the status quo to continue. There are some fine American patriots in our lives and times, but darn few make it to a level in politics where they can both put up the corruption and make a real difference. Sad, ain't it?
 
Everyone on the pro side needs to never use the term " silencer" and correct those who use it. Suppressors are not silent. Anyone who uses a super sonic round with suppressor knows how rediculous the law restricting them is.
 
Even if you use subsonic ammunition and a suppressor with a 22lr it's still as loud as a pellet gun.

I personally don't like to use Silencer or Suppressor.. When talking to non-shooters i call a can a Muffler.

It's a muffler that people want to use so they don't hurt their hearing. Do you like driving next to a kid that has a glass pack or no muffler vs a stock car? Then why wouldn't you want to allow hunters to use a muffler to tune it down to safe hearing levels?
even liberals have a tough time saying we shouldn't have that.
 
Originally Posted By: MCaryEveryone on the pro side needs to never use the term " silencer" and correct those who use it. Suppressors are not silent. Anyone who uses a super sonic round with suppressor knows how rediculous the law restricting them is.

No, I don't agree with that. Maxim invented the silencer. They are listed as silencers on my stamps.
You know the opposition is going to call them silencers, and if we use the pc term "suppressor" exclusively- It makes it look like we're trying to sneak a fast one over the public.
Use both terms and demonstrate your cans to others at every chance. That is the best way to correct the definition. Prove silencers are not silent.
 
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZi never had a single thought during last years election that if Trump won the Rino's would be more of a road block than the Dems.

You hit that one on the head Tbone. Guess we finally get to see once and for all that Pols are in it for THEMSELVES and not the American people.

I met former AZ Senator Frank Antenori while down in Tucson with Jeff Mock. He was the Senator responsible for getting AZ hunters 100% under Game and Fish jurisdiction and he gave me hope for Pols because his focus was on us and not himself. Sadly I see that he is the exception and not the rule. I recently got a letter back from Senator McCain when I wrote to him expressing my disappointment about his support for DACA. His bleeding heart letter whined and pined about "promises and opportunities conferred to these individuals" what a bunch of blah blah crap. They are NOT American citizens and there was NOTHING "conferred" to them. McCain represents McCain and NOT the citizens of Arizona.

Sadly, I hold little hope for this Congress or Senate doing anything meaningful. It is long past time to drain the swamp, bull doze it and pave it.
 
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