22 nosler question

Originally Posted By: BR MarksmanThat's too bad about the brass. I was hoping to build one on a 223 Bolt Action.

There would be some improvement but the ejector flow is still going to happen. You could also neck size only and that would help. Unfortunately you can't/shouldn't do that in an AR.

Greg
 
you were talking about western powders before what powder were you thinking about .i have been looking LT30 LT32 2200 i would like to try some
 
Soooooo if I lean on my necked down 6.8 cases primer pockets are gonna go and my 22 Nosler brass swipes.......some like 6 of one half dozen of then other............
 
Originally Posted By: varminter .223Soooooo if I lean on my necked down 6.8 cases primer pockets are gonna go and my 22 Nosler brass swipes.......some like 6 of one half dozen of then other............

If you push ANY too hard you expand the pockets. Plain and simple. The true 6.8 brass will handle it a bit better in most cases as it is designed to run at higher SAAMI pressures.

6.8 brass is a lot more available than the Nosler stuff and I suspect it will always be so. The HAGAR is available through Hornady/Creedmoor Sports but it has been sporadic in availability over the past few years. At one point none was available for over six months.

I've got over a dozen loadings on a large batch of 6.8 brass necked to 6 MM and loaded hot. It's still going strong. No bent rims and no swiping. I also have one hundred 22X6.8cases I've shot for times that were flat screaming and they are still sliding in the shell holder easily with no bends or extra metal hanging out to file down. I've already seen the Noslers doing that at twice fired at low charge levels, per Nosler,already needing hands on attention.

My 24" BHW 22 Nosler upper will be here next week. I Ritch put it last night and I have a fresh box of brass waiting. I want to look at the accuracy on this one as this barrel won't be doing any better treatment than the STONER does on the cases. I ordered it the week after SHOT and I'm glad I've already been learning about this one before it shows. It will be going in my book that is slowly getting done.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: tonyjab you were talking about western powders before what powder were you thinking about .i have been looking LT30 LT32 2200 i would like to try some

I would try some 2200, 2460 and 2230. TAC would be worth a trial with the light ones. Addionally IMR 8308, H4895 and RL15 would be worth a trial also. 8208 will be outstanding IMHO .

Greg
 
Had the woa 22" 22 nosler out this weekend. It was mid to high 3500's and low 3600's with 55 bt's and 33 grains of cfe 223. I started at 2.270 when I first started out with this barrel and it shot right at .5 five shot groups. When I switched to cfe 223 from varget I accidently seated the 1st of 3 to 2.260 so I went with all three to the shorter length and it put 3 right at .5 so I switched to that length. I started to get some flyers out at and just beyond an inch. I switched back to 2.270 and shot the next 5 at .460 so that is gonna be what I stick with. However after I tried the 3 rounds of cfe 223 and let the rifle sit for a week the first group of 3 this weekend opened up to like 2.8". I shot a group of 7 after that and 5 of those were about .5 and 2 got close to an inch. Its seems the bore needed refouled. Anyone experienced this? Maybe the 3 rounds of cfe over previous varger fouling was a bad combo. I cleaned the rifle after that and got a small trace of copper. After more cfe loads I ran a few patches down the bore and it seemed black and gummy. Excuse my rambling but as I post this I realize I have been switching between varget and cfe......maybe that is causing wierd fouling and some of my flyers.
 
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Shot the 22 nosler today with resized Hagar brass and 6.8 spc bolt. I just shot behind the house through the chrony no groups. Just seeing if there was any pressure issues.

Three shots
32.0 cfe 223
2.230
Hornady sp
Avg 3445

32.5
Avg 3505

No signs of pressure yet at all and no head swipes at all
 
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Originally Posted By: Husker04Shot the 22 nosler today with resized Hagar brass and 6.8 spc bolt. I just shot behind the house through the chrony no groups. Just seeing if there was any pressure issues.

Three shots
32.0 cfe 223
2.230
Hornady sp
Avg 3445

32.5
Avg 3505

No signs of pressure yet at all and no head swipes at all

Kind of ironic but fwiw yesterday I also shot 32 and 32.5 grains of cfe 223 with 55s and they were basically the exact same speed as yours. Cfe 223 seems to a very good powder for this round.
 
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I agree cfe 223 seems to chrony well and group well in mine also which is good because I have a lot of it around. I'm Gona try a 53 and 60 gr vmax next I'm really hoping the 60 shoots good and meters well I have always had better luck with that one on shoulder shots with coyotes. I think this one would give enough velocity for the 55 Gr sierra game king spt to be a good coyote round too the 223 never pushed them hard enough to open them up but my 22-250 that bullet is a great coyote bullet at higher velocities
 
Update on 22 nosler with 6mm Hagar brass
I loaded up some different loads and went out today and made some 3 shot groups all loaded to 2.260 out of 22 inch white oak 1x8 with 7.5 inch can on the end all shots were 98 yards Caldwell Chrony 6 yards from barrel. These are some of the ones that show real promise

50 Gr Zmax 8208 xbr 29.0 gr
.585
Avg 3531 sd 13.9
A lot of room left on this one I believe

53 Gr vmax cfe 223 32.1 Gr
.465
Avg 3551 sd 22.2

55 nbt cfe 223 32.1
.431
Avg 3530 ad 32.6

50 zmax h4895 29.0
.724
Avg 3454 sd 24
Room left on this one also

The 8208 looks like it's Gona be a great powder in this round with a little work the it with the cheap 50 Gr Zmax should shoot a lot of prairie dogs this summer
 
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My 22 nosgar likes 50gr nossler bts 30.5 xbr8208 powder 2.270 oal. Wolf small mag primers.hagar brass I haven't crono this yet I'm still waiting for my xcalliber barrel.then I will really play with powders.ps how's the brass look.
 
The brass looks good I've loaded some 4 times and don't have to file to get them in the shell holder so I'm already happier with it.
 
Originally Posted By: Husker04Update on 22 nosler with 6mm Hagar brass
I loaded up some different loads and went out today and made some 3 shot groups all loaded to 2.260 out of 22 inch white oak 1x8 with 7.5 inch can on the end all shots were 98 yards Caldwell Chrony 6 yards from barrel. These are some of the ones that show real promise

50 Gr Zmax 8208 xbr 29.0 gr
.585
Avg 3531 sd 13.9
A lot of room left on this one I believe

53 Gr vmax cfe 223 32.1 Gr
.465
Avg 3551 sd 22.2

55 nbt cfe 223 32.1
.431
Avg 3530 ad 32.6

50 zmax h4895 29.0
.724
Avg 3454 sd 24
Room left on this one also

The 8208 looks like it's Gona be a great powder in this round with a little work the it with the cheap 50 Gr Zmax should shoot a lot of prairie dogs this summer
I've got about 155 rounds through mine now and mine seemed to respond well to 2.270" with the 55 bts over 2.260". It shoots so good with 33 cfe 223, 55bt's and rem 7.5s at 2.270" that I am gonna save the throat for the coyotes. Seems at 2.260" I get an occasional .750" flyer. It will break 3600 occasionally with that load. Can't see a reason to change unless cold weather makes me adjust the load.
If I chamber a round at 2.260 and then extract it I get a ring half way around at the ogive. At 2.270 the ring is all the way around. I guess I am into the lands at 2.270 as hard as it is to believe that. I gotta modify a cartridge to check.
29 Varget and 60 bts were mid to low 3200s and showed promise. I seated all bts at the same seater setting and this load showed almost no swiping on the Nosler brass. 55s with 30 Varget swipe but are very accurate at 3300.
 
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