Originally Posted By: WhoCaresOriginally Posted By: BrassRatOriginally Posted By: WhoCaresJust curious? And a safety conscious question. How do you know the case heated up to the right temp? Or in fact overheated or under heated? It's pretty important to be exact.
Annealing necks is not critical, and it is just about impossible to ruin a case.
Read this thread - there is a lot of solid technical information in it.
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...788#Post2905788
Well I agree and disagree with some of this information you seem to follow. You should never get the case Red in the dark or in the daylight. Over heating or under heating the case will reduce maximum reloading life, or at worse cause the case to fail, basic scientific practice like using a temperature crayon such as Templac to determine Proper heat is the way to go. This has been shown to work over millions of annealed rounds by numerous experts. If you choose to follow different wisdom like "it gets red in the dark" or " I can't do it right because I don't feel like sourcing the proper tools" then that is your choice. I freely admit I'm no firearms expert or annealing expert but I have processed thousands of cases and the process I've described above has worked well for me and many others. Good luck in your quest!
Also to address your comment about annealing necks are not critical is just flat wrong especially when processing wssm brass. I don't know how many of these wssm case you have personally annealed but I have done many. The case has to be full length resized every single time while bumping back the shoulder a considerable amount. Without proper annealing you will be lucky to get 1 or 2 reloads without a split neck or case body. These cases ave very difficult and expensive to find these days so doing it properly is critical if you need to get 12+ reloads per case.
I started annealing in the 1960's and do 2,000 to 4,000 a year, now that I am not in business anymore... these are for my own use.
"I can't do it right because I don't feel like sourcing the proper tools" then that is your choice."
Actually, I ran several ammunition companies, and then I opened and ran my own small ammunition company for 4 years(see ammunition manufacturing FFL and businesss card below) and I have sourced the proper real tools.
My "Press room"
Here is a $2,500 metal testing tool I bought to test case necks and heads for hardness.
Here is an article that I posted in a thread on accurateshooter.com, which they thought was good enough to include in their permanent bulletin archive files
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014...hardness-tests/
I DO know how to test brass for hardness and state of annealing... templaque tells you nothing.
I would love to see your creds in ammunition handloading.