Reloader 17 and 85 grain bullets in 243 win

March Brown

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Greetings, Besides the Alliant data which is for Swift bullets is there any published or first hand data on RL17 and Sierra 85 bthp? I like to have several max loads to review and work up to lowest one. Data with the same bullet is nice. The manufacturers would not provide data. Thank you.
 
44.5g of R#19 with a win primer is fast and super accurate, touch the lands with the bullet!!! Work up to this load in your rifle, works extremely well with the 85g triple shock with a .050 jump also.

Can't help you with the 17, looking forward to hearing some of the responses.

Check out this site!!!

http://centerfirecentral.com/MDB/Categor...bmit=Search+Now

Good shooting and welcome to this site!

If you find out what your bbl likes with R#17, please let me know.
 
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ere using it? [Re: skeetlee]
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I picked up a pound of it today. I Heard it was hard to find, so when i saw that my reloading guy had a few i picked one up. Anyone here using it? What are you using it in, and what do you think of it? Thanks Lee



I picked up three pounds of RL-17 a week ago. I loaded up some 25-06 and 7mm Mauser ammo using it. But, our rifle range is snowed in, so I'll have to wait for another month till the snow goes before I can shoot any of the loads.

Here's some loading info on RL=17 that I copied. It's not in any particular order, just notes to myself for future loads. You may find some of it helpful.

http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/alliant-releases-new-reloder-17-powder/

February 12, 2008
Alliant Releases NEW Reloder 17 Powder
Filed under: News, Reloading — Tags: Gunpowder, Reloading — Editor @ 1 pm
Alliant Powder, a division of Alliant Tech Systems Inc., (ATK), will be shipping new Reloder 17 powder in mid-March, 2008. This is an all-new, double-base powder produced in Switzerland by NitroChemie for Alliant. It is a high-energy powder with a burn rate close to IMR 4350, and “midway between Reloder 15 and Reloder 19.” The powder density is optimized for the short magnum cases such as the 7mm WSM and 300 WSM, but it also will work very well with cartridges such as .243 Win, .270 Win, 6XC, and 6mm Remington, according to Alliant Product Manager Dick Quesenberry.

Reloder 17, a state-of-the-art propellant, promises to deliver higher velocities than competitive powders for many popular calibers. If you have the “need for speed”, Reloder 17 is worth trying if you’re shooting IMR4350, H4350, N550 or similar powders right now. The new RL17 will be offered in 1-lb. and 5-lb. containers and will cost about the same as other Alliant Reloder powders, such as RL15 and RL19.

Mr. Quesenberry noted that Alliant tested many formulations, from a variety of makers, before choosing the Swiss-made Reloder 17. Alliant’s new RL17 is NOT the same as Norma URP, produced by Bofors in Europe. According to Alliant, the new Reloder 17 tested superior to URP (and most other powders in that burn range) in all major criteria: Velocity, Accuracy, ES/SD, material consistency, and resistance to ambient temperature-induced pressure changes.

Reloder 17 features an advanced, penetrant-type kernel coating. Alliant believes this is superior to typical surface powder coatings because it provides a more consistent, progressive burn. The powder pressures do not spike as sharply as with surface-coated powders, but remain more consistent throughout the burning process.

Testing has shown that Reloder 17 offers big velocity gains in many cartridges compared to other powders in the same burn range. For example, in the 6mm Remington, using an 85gr BTSP, Reloder 17 delivered a +156 fps gain over all other powders listed in the current Speer Reloading manual. Likewise, in the 300 WSM with a 180gr BTSP, Reloder 17 offered +104 fps edge in velocity over all powders listed in the Speer Manual. Below is a chart showing projected velocity gains compared to other Speer Manual-listed powders.

http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/reloder17data.doc

Alliant has already done extensive load testing in its ballistics laboratories and has load data available for 20 popular cartridges, including .243 Win, 6mm Rem, 6.5×55, .260 Rem, .270 Win, .308 Win, 30-06, 7mm WSM, 300 WSM, and 300 Win Magnum.

CLICK HERE for ALLIANT RELODER® 17 LOAD DATA

NOTE CONCERNING LOAD DATA:
Reloder® 17 was created with new technology to provide velocity greater than the competition in the most popular standard rifle calibers and the new short magnums. For the recipes developed in Alliant’s Ballistics Laboratory, all loads used Speer bullets and list the correct Overall Length — DO NOT SEAT THE BULLETS TO A LESS OVERALL LENGTH. These recipes are maximum loads and shall not be exceeded. Always start at least 5% low and work up.

RL-17 Loads

Caliber Bullet Case Primer COAL Chg Wgt Velocity
223 WSM 55 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.210 46.6 3865
243 Win 80 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.615 44.0 3362
243 Win 85 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.625 43.7 3316
243 Win 100 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.625 40.8 3044
243 WSM 70 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.185 49.0C 3745
243 WSM 80 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.255 44.5 3512
243 WSM 85 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.255 45.5 3452
243 WSM 100 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.290 41.0 3128
6mm Rem 70 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.775 48.5C 3682
6mm Rem 80 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.775 46.7 3500
6mm Rem 85 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.775 46.0 3441
6mm Rem 100 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 44.0 3163
25-06 87 gr SP Fed Fed 210 3.115 54.5 3547
25-06 120 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 48.5 3046
6.5x55(mil) 90 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.850 48.5 3223
6.5x55(mil) 120 gr SP Fed Fed 210 3.000 41.5 2741
260 Rem 120 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.720 44.0 2912
260 Rem 140 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.745 41.0 2645
270 WSM 100 gr HP Fed Fed 215 2.730 67.5 3668
270 WSM 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.700 62.0 3258
270 WSM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.700 60.0 3041
270 Win 100 gr HP Fed Fed 210 3.100 59.0 3554
270 Win 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 54.0 3136
270 Win 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 51.5 2921
280 Rem 110 gr HP Fed Fed 210 3.200 59.5 3397
280 Rem 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.205 56.0 3167
280 Rem 145 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.180 53.0 2968
280 Rem 160 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 51.5 2825
280 Rem 175 gr GS Fed Fed 210 3.265 50.5 2674
7 WSM 110 gr HP Win Fed 215 2.770 69.5 3588
7 WSM 130 gr BTSP Win Fed 215 2.775 66.5 3356
7 WSM 145 gr BTSP Win Fed 215 2.760 63.5 3166
7 WSM 160 gr BTSP Win Fed 215 2.820 60.0 2964
7 mm-08 110 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.760 50.5C 3169
7 mm-08 115 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.655 49.5C 3107
7 mm-08 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.730 48.5C 3007
7 mm-08 145 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.730 46.0 2819
7 mm-08 160 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 44.0 2669
7 mm-08 175 gr GS Fed Fed 210 2.745 44.0 2574
7 mm RM 110 gr HP Fed Fed 215 3.200 68.0 3535
7mm RM 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.200 63.5 3255
7 mm RM 145 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.210 61.8 3113
7mm RM 160 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.210 59.0 2931
7 mm RM 175 gr GS Fed Fed 215 3.215 67.0 2774
7mm RM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.700 50.0C 2763
308 Win 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 50.0C 2739
308 Win 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 48.7C 2641
30-06 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.250 58.0 3006
30-06 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.250 56.5 2874
30-06 168 gr BTHP Fed Fed 210 3.295 56.0 2850
30-06 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.250 54.5 2762
30-06 200 gr SP Fed Fed 210 3.250 51.0 2552
300 WSM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.810 69.3 3343
300 WSM 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.810 68.0 3217
300 WSM 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.800 66.0 3082
300 WM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.330 74.0 3333
300 WM 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.340 72.5 3202
300 WM 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.340 70.5 3074
325 WSM 150 gr S-SP Win Fed 215 2.850 71.5 3348
325 WSM 170 gr S-SP Win Fed 215 2.790 65.0 3131
325 WSM 200 gr SP Win Fed 215 2.840 65.0 2897
338 WM 200 gr SP Fed Fed 215 3.300 71.0 3002
338 WM 225 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.340 67.5 2831
338 WM 250 gr GS Fed Fed 215 3.300 66.0 2664
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Cartridge          : .243 Win
Bullet             : .243, 85, Sierra HPBT 1530
Useable Case Capaci: 51.096 grain H2O = 3.318 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.710 inch = 68.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant RL17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   86    42.39   3136    1856   44278  11366     99.4    1.205
-09.0   87    42.86   3170    1896   45775  11452     99.6    1.187
-08.0   88    43.33   3203    1937   47326  11532     99.7    1.168
-07.0   89    43.80   3237    1977   48930  11605     99.9    1.151
-06.0   90    44.27   3270    2018   50590  11671     99.9    1.133
-05.0   91    44.75   3303    2059   52311  11730    100.0    1.117
-04.0   92    45.22   3336    2100   54093  11782    100.0    1.100  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   92    45.69   3368    2142   55939  11831    100.0    1.083  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   93    46.16   3401    2183   57851  11879    100.0    1.067  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   94    46.63   3433    2224   59830  11927    100.0    1.051  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   95    47.10   3465    2266   61886  11974    100.0    1.036  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

 
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