Hunting on American Indian Land.....

Dropadoglv

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Recently I spoke to a buddy, who is a Tribal Police Officer (supervisor) for a local Indian reservation. He is an avid hunter and has the opportunity to hunt this private land. He extended me an invitation to join him on a hunt. This is a first for me and will take advantage of his invitation. Question: have any of you ever had the opportunity to hunt in this type of "private land"? He says that there are many coyotes to be had as the area has very few if any hunters. He did add, that if I harvested any coyotes. He will be taking the carcasses. Which I have "NO" problem doing.....
 
Originally Posted By: crapshootOnly in AZ with a license. There was this one time....
Maybe I'll tell you about it some time. lol.....I could only imagine!?!?
 
Yes, but that means almost nothing because every reservation has its own rules. Because they are considered soveign nations each make and enforce their own laws. Usually those with the most to offer have the most restrictions and fees.
 
There's a reason why there "aren't many hunters" out there. Knowing someone who lives out there is your best chance for having a good time. Don't go around the 1st or 15th of the month.
 
Originally Posted By: Dropadoglv He did add, that if I harvested any coyotes. He will be taking the carcasses. Which I have "NO" problem doing.....

they do enjoy their coyote tamales.
 
I've hunted the San Carlos rez many times over the years. Many times for several days at a time. They allow pale faces to hunt and depending on what you hunt charge accordingly. Some humongous trophy elk come off that rez. Problem is for big game a native guide is required. According to the size of the elk he will add on trophy fees at his discretion and it's not unusual to see fees of $25,000 and up over and above the rez fees. The tribe lives in a different world than we'really used to. You can never depend on the tribal fee station being open for regular hours. If you're interested in small game you may be sitting outside the office for hours until they decide to open. I know of a friend who went ahead and set up camp planning to go back and get permits later. A native ranger showed up at his camp and asked for permits. He explained his situation and the ranger grinned, took all his camping equipt, tent, sleeping bags, guns etc and confiscated them and escorted him to the edge of the rez. Gave him a trial date to see the Indian judge. A few days later he called the judge and asked what the fine might be. The judge said there were no set fees it would depend on his mood that day and lately he had been hitting trespassers in the neighborhood of 10 grand. He told the judge to keep his stuff he wasn't coming back. Judge assured him he wouldn't be wise to return. Personally I've never had any problems, but I adhere to the letter of their law. The Rangers like to stop at campfires at dinner time so we always feed them and pull out the adult beverages. They truly don't hold their beverages well and soon they fall off the log sleeping after filling us in with the tribal drama. They come back like a lost hound for the freebies, who knows how many other hunters we've saved from fines. They're don't really like coyote hunters as the coyote is a sort of spiritual guide and to the Apache at least they are afraid of its powers. They believe it turns into a skinwalker at will with the power to transform humans or even kill them. The stories they tell after a few Dixie cups of 151 rum will entertain you like never before. Why do I continue to go back you might ask? Because once you know the rez and a few rangers you will find the most overwhelming amount of game, unlike anywhere else. But be warned, you're on foreign soil with none of the rights you've ever known. Be polite, follow their rules, never assume they think like you do. Ask questions, learn to appreciate their culture and you'll likely have the time of your life.
 
I hunt on a Rez up in ID w/my son every year and have had no issues. Have yet to see a Rez cop either. Non Indian fee is $10 & the BLM station has regular hours. It does get hit by a lot of pale faces also from the regional areas though.
 
Quote:But be warned, you're on foreign soil with none of the rights you've ever known.

Sounds like Mexico, Lyle. Never paid the same price twice for a fishing license.

Only hunted there when my best friend's father was the American Consul here and we always took his vehicle w/consular plates....never had any issues then.
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After his dad was transferred I never drove across again and DO NOT cross the Rio at all today. Never lost anything there and would like to keep it that way.

Regards,
hm
 
Ive hunted a few didferent reservations in the Dakotas and rhey all had different regs. Go online and check. Dont think youll have any problems because of your friends position, but you never know. They can be confusing. Resident non member license is for non member who lives in the rez, not resident of the state. Ive made that mistake-should have know that a 10dollar antelope tag was too good to be true.
 
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I have hunted on the San Carlos, Navajo, Apache, and a couple of others.

The San Carlos is a pain for the permit, like AZ said, it's hit and miss getting them in there.

The Navajo is the best in my book of all of them.
You can get the lic at a walmart off the res. Then hunt and Follow the rules to the letter.

NEVER LEAVE THE TRUCK UNLOCKED... EVER... EVEN IF YOU CAN SEE IT.. EVEN WHEN YOU ARE HUNTING IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE.

Every time i do,there is someone sitting in the passenger seat waiting for me drinking my soda. They won't get out, and won't take a hint. They stay put until you give them a ride to where they are going. Once they get out, lock the door and leave fast.

Don't pick up hitch hikers, same reason..
If you see someone wondering up when you are skinning or walking up, get in, and move down the road.

Lots of coyotes. few other hunters, tons of land, but the locals can be surprising, if you are not used to it.
Don't ask them if they have seen coyotes.. lol it's always.. Oh.. They are over there, and there, and there, and well everywhere.
 
Many stories about the local reservations.
I have witnessed and experienced a few.
A local artifact collector was offered a buffalo nutsack from the upcoming night hunt, He said "sure, just leave it in the usual place on the patio",
Upon returning and checking the stash he found an udder.
 
An additional warning that certainly applies to AZ reservations, and most likely all reservations, is that having a hunting permit does not allow one to pick up artifacts, rocks, or other found objects such as may be common on other land. While hunting San Carlos in the mid nineties we stumbled onto a turquoise deposit that had been lightly worked. Beautiful veins with webs and some with a slender vein of gold running through it. The guy with me had never been on the rez before and was filling his pockets with the stuff as I came walking up. I stopped him and told him didn't he recognize the material. He said "yes, it's the most beautiful turquoise I've ever seen." I quickly corrected him, telling him no, he was mistaken. "No, that fools many people, but it's actually Leverite." I said. He said " I've never heard of Leverite, is it valuable?" I replied " nah so just Leverite there or your walking home."
On another occasion I was hunting with an older friend who sadly passed away some time back. We were hunting down singles from a huge covey of Scalies.(scaled Quail). My 3 bird dogs had found the covey of well over 100 birds high up on a hillside. Now those who hunt Scalies will recognize that any covey over ten is huge. He had gone higher up to check a dog on point near a group of large boulders. I was mid hill following to catch up to one dog pointing and one backing. As I glanced up to be sure of his position I heard him whoop. I couldn't see him because he was behind the boulders. I figured it was a buzzworm, which we frequently saw or maybe even a mountain lion which we would occasionally jump out of similar bouldered areas. I stopped to see if he would respond to a shout and saw him coming down the hill rapidly with something in his hand besides his shotgun, hollering all the way down. He had found a model 76 Winchester, I should say, the remains of one, laying partially uncovered behind the boulders. There was no wood left on the rifle. The rust was very bad but we could read the serial number. The lever was fully extended to the eject position, naturally it was frozen. However in the chamber was a 45.75 round with the primer indented, also frozen. Well there was no telling him to leave it or walk home, he was driving. It was a nervous trip out of the rez that day. He found that the records were stored at the Cody museum. He sent a letter with the serial number and an amount of money (can't remember now what it cost) and they replied with the information of the store in NYC who sold it in 1877 as a special order and the customer name. He mounted the gun and letter in a display case on his den wall. For a number of years before his passing we sat by the fire with some good sippin whiskey and discussed various versions of how it came to be behind those boulders so many years ago. Most likely the last cartridge jammed fighting off wild Apaches. Now I highly recommend that no one try such a dumb stunt and whatever you may find...Leverite there, I'm just sayin.
 
Question on Hunting the Indian Lands

When you buy a permit to hunt on the Indian Land:
1. Do you also need an AZ hunting license?
2. Do AZ Fish & Game rules apply or just the reservation rules?
3. Are there printed rules & regulations for the Indian Lands?
4. Are there native guides and how much do they charge?

Thanks,
Marcos (elalto)
 
Originally Posted By: elaltoQuestion on Hunting the Indian Lands

When you buy a permit to hunt on the Indian Land:
1. Do you also need an AZ hunting license?
2. Do AZ Fish & Game rules apply or just the reservation rules?
3. Are there printed rules & regulations for the Indian Lands?
4. Are there native guides and how much do they charge?

Thanks,
Marcos (elalto) Good questions, I don't have the answers, you may be referring to AZ...but I was referring to Nevada. That's where I was invited to hunt....
 
Originally Posted By: elaltoQuestion on Hunting the Indian Lands

When you buy a permit to hunt on the Indian Land:
1. Do you also need an AZ hunting license?NO
2. Do AZ Fish & Game rules apply or just the reservation rules? PROBABLY JUT RES REGULATIONS. BUT FOLKOW BOTH AND THERE WILL BE NO QUESTION
3. Are there printed rules & regulations for the Indian Lands?YES
4. Are there native guides and how much do they charge?USUALLY. PRICE DEPENDS ON THE GAME YOU ARE AFTER AND VARIES FROM GUIDE TO GUIDE.

Thanks,
Marcos (elalto)
 
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