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#2934616 - 02/19/16 09:07 PM IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max
AZ RON Offline
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Registered: 01/01/15
Posts: 76
Loc: Buckeye, Az
I took the .223 and 22-250 out today.

.223 consisted of several hand loads for data collection:
40gr V-Max with IMR 3031 23.5gr, 24gr, 24.5gr and 25gr of powder
75gr HPBT also Hornady, IMR 3031 19.2gr, 19.9gr, 20.5gr and 21gr of powder.

22-250 was strictly 55gr Remington High Performance Factory Loads

The 40gr with 23.5gr powder and 75gr with 21gr powder performed the best.

The only Chrono data I have is for the 23.5gr of powder with 40gr V-max because after switching to the 75gr HPBT I placed the first round perfectly through the Chronograph and that was that...

Anyhow i'll be ordering a new one soon and hopefully have some more meaningful data for you guys. Until them, laughs on me.
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#2934617 - 02/19/16 09:09 PM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
AZ RON Offline
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For clarification, the 40gr V-max performed optimally at min load and the 75gr HPBT performed optimally at max load. I thought that was odd.

Rifle was an LWRC 14.5" barrel 1 in 7" twist
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#2934646 - 02/19/16 10:05 PM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
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Registered: 11/18/15
Posts: 213
Loc: Neither here or there
At least you had a perfect hit. I could only manage to hit mine with the bottom half of a 30 cal bullet at 2800 fps. The bullet turned to shrapnel and made a heck of a mess, the damage was impressive. I knew it wasn't going to be pretty when the round went off and surprisingly I didn't even say or think one cuss word.


Edited by Yote Newb (02/19/16 10:05 PM)

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#2934660 - 02/19/16 10:27 PM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: Yote Newb]
AZ RON Offline
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I didnt know i hit it at first. Earlier in the afternoon I had to move it back because the muzzle blast of the 22-250 was knocking the sun shades off. I didn't realize the .223 rounds were barely clearing the Chrono until i switched to the heavier rounds. The bullet went through so fast and so clean that my first indication was "ERROR 3" on my phone. When I walked up to the chrono there was an entry whole just about the display but the back was completely blown out. Pretty impressive. The first thing I did was laugh uncontrollably. I immediately remembered reading the owner's manual disclaimer, "Intentional or unintentional shooting of this chronograph will void it's factory warranty." Hahaha I specifically remember thinking, "How dumb do you have to be to shoot your chronograph and then try and return it?" Well at least I figured out half of that question...
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#2935215 - 02/21/16 10:02 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
Huckleberry75 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 693
Loc: Yukon, OK-ish
Prior to the whoopsie, what was the velocity data on the 40's? And that is th e same reason that my dad no longer borrows my chrony. He double tapped mine with a 308....Itty bitty pieces.

Originally Posted By: AZ RON
For clarification, the 40gr V-max performed optimally at min load and the 75gr HPBT performed optimally at max load. I thought that was odd.

Rifle was an LWRC 14.5" barrel 1 in 7" twist

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#2935241 - 02/21/16 11:08 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
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Registered: 04/06/08
Posts: 3915
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Originally Posted By: AZ RON
I didnt know i hit it at first. Earlier in the afternoon I had to move it back because the muzzle blast of the 22-250 was knocking the sun shades off. I didn't realize the .223 rounds were barely clearing the Chrono until i switched to the heavier rounds. The bullet went through so fast and so clean that my first indication was "ERROR 3" on my phone. When I walked up to the chrono there was an entry whole just about the display but the back was completely blown out. Pretty impressive. The first thing I did was laugh uncontrollably. I immediately remembered reading the owner's manual disclaimer, "Intentional or unintentional shooting of this chronograph will void it's factory warranty." Hahaha I specifically remember thinking, "How dumb do you have to be to shoot your chronograph and then try and return it?" Well at least I figured out half of that question...



I think you need to switch to a better bullet if your getting Exits...
The 20gr Zmax @ 4350fps performs a lot better with a entry hole and no exits...



All kidding aside if its a Chrony they will send you a new one for about $50.00 if you call them wink
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#2935247 - 02/21/16 11:26 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: reddog964]
AZ RON Offline
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It was a Caldwell, I'm going to call them Monday and see if they offer anything like that. Thanks for the tip.
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#2935253 - 02/21/16 11:33 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: Huckleberry75]
AZ RON Offline
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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry75
Prior to the whoopsie, what was the velocity data on the 40's?

Originally Posted By: AZ RON

Rifle was an LWRC 14.5" barrel 1 in 7" twist


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#2935254 - 02/21/16 11:35 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
AZ RON Offline
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Loc: Buckeye, Az
I imagine you would get 3000+fps in a 20" barrel I'm just working with what I've got until I decide on 22-250 vs. 243 vs. 6.5 Creedmore. Tough choices
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#2935555 - 02/21/16 09:16 PM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
Huckleberry75 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/15
Posts: 693
Loc: Yukon, OK-ish
On that, I would go the 6.5cm and run the 123 amax.

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#2935751 - 02/22/16 10:26 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: Huckleberry75]
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Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 2459
Loc: NW, Wi
There is an old axiom about shooting chronies. "There are two kinds of people who shoot chronographs...Those that have, and those that will soon". Mine was an F2 that took a 380 slug to the face. I was looking to change chronograph brands, so I did not pursue the "replacement" option. I was impressed by the 380 slug's damage, too.

I may have expressed one mildly profane word, at the initial hit, but then the reason to buy a new chrony flashed in my head, and all was good. grin

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#2935790 - 02/22/16 11:48 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
Redleg84 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 1072
Loc: Maine
This is precisely why I opted for the Magnetospeed over the Chrony style. While reading these stories always entertains me, I know I would react much more negatively if I shot one.

I just loaded up some 40gr NBT to try out, curious as to the MV i'll get out of a 12.5" barrel

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#2937268 - 02/25/16 01:02 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: Redleg84]
DannoBoone Offline
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Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 900
Loc: Walker, IA
Originally Posted By: Redleg84
This is precisely why I opted for the Magnetospeed over the Chrony style.


Good thinkin'. I shot two Chronies before getting it through my
head the MagnetoSpeed would be cheaper in the long run! sneaky2

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#2937281 - 02/25/16 03:55 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: DannoBoone]
AZ RON Offline
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Registered: 01/01/15
Posts: 76
Loc: Buckeye, Az
I just got my second Caldwell in the mail today. If I shoot this one I might be a little more upset. I loaded up a batch of V-Max 110gr. in .308. I'm convinced I can make a Yote round for the .308
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#2937291 - 02/25/16 06:52 AM Re: IMR 3031 & Hornady V-Max [Re: AZ RON]
Lefty SRH Offline
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Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 2037
Loc: North AL
Try some Benchmark witht those 40gr Vmax bullets.
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