cherokeetracker
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I believe that you have OR, are going through the correct steps such as
SLug the barrel
Check cylinders
Check the forcing cone and correct it if needed
Get a Good Genuine (done by a competent Smith) Trigger JOB Do NOT unhook one side of the spring
Slugging the barrel should reveal thread choke If you have thread choke and gun shoots OK then leave it alone. If gun does not shoot OK then Look at 2 places and that is beartoothbullets.com for correct supplies to remove it, and then look at singleactions.proboards.com and look under 2dogs write-up ion this subject. He shows in photos the correct way to address this. I have done several guns and Fermin is spot on with this post on the forum.
Cast Bullets will always shoot faster than jacketed! Jacketed bullets have too much friction. They will wear out a pistol much faster. Think about a rifles loosing accuracy after 3K rounds so you see what can happen. This is not in stone,, but a barrel is a barrel.
BFR and Freedomm Arms Pistols are the most accurate out of the box, for store bought. Custom pistols the price range goes way higher depending upon what is entailed.
Rugers are affordable for the most part, and even if you have to do this work which should be 200 - 300 dollars more you will still not have the investment of 1200 to 5K
Even if you customize the pistol with new sights, new barrel, reamed cylinder or a new Line Bored cylinder, trigger job and new grips all that can be sometimes less than a Freedom Arms pistol or a custom for sure. But in spite of all that,, I have seen stock Rugers that shoot good.
Cast Bullets. It is very important to get a good bullet for your pistol. Sized correct and the profile needs to be correct. Unfortunately there has been too many copies of the Keith Style, Bullets. Your work is cut out for you to find the correct bullet and the best way is to get on these 2 forums: castboolits.gunloads.com/forum and the singleactions.proboard.com
Ask and you will be given hundreds of loads. But you will have to sift through to find out what is best for your GUN.
Powders and loads: This can drive you crazy if the bullet selection didn't !! The correct combination can be a struggle, but there are some guidelines. One of them is to read Brian Pierce write-ups in Handloader magazine. The other thing is to try some what I call OLD STANDBYS Ex: a 250 gr SWC loaded with 10 grains of Unique (Ruger Only) 45 Cal
There are others for each caliber,, and this is not the only one for the 45 Colt.
I recently finally remembered my own sermon that I had preached,,, after trying different loads in the 44 SP with the results of Patterns instead of groups I lay down the 44 SP and decided I probably would sell it. This was a disappointment since I had done the list I stated here, Slugged barrel had trigger job, Fire Lapped the barrel (to remove the thread choke) and for cosmetic purpose replaced the scales ( new Grips) Then trying New factory ammo Cowboy stuff, and Buffalo Bore shot and shot. No Good !!! Fast forward to three years later,,, then I remembered like I said ,,, SO,, I tried Skeeters Load of 250 grain bullet with 7.5 grains of Unique. Hitting the Bullseye at 25yds and less than 4" at 50 yds So you see what I mean that trial and error is sometimes the only way to achieve the desired results.
Skeeter had loads for the 357 and the 44 SP Elmer Keith had them for everything and I felt like that I should try some of these OLD STANDBY Loads before writing off a gun. Be careful with Elmer Loads cause some of them are way too hot.
Every Gun is different and each one likes it's own formula and recipe for loads. I cannot give you the best load for your Pistol only some guidelines.
Do NOT let this discourage you!!! Please let it encourage you to put forth a little more effort to achieve your desired results. One of the best things too is called TRIGGER TIME The more you shoot the better you can be. It may surprise you to find that loads you thought were mediocre might turn to be the better ones. I hope this helps because that is all it was meant to do.
SLug the barrel
Check cylinders
Check the forcing cone and correct it if needed
Get a Good Genuine (done by a competent Smith) Trigger JOB Do NOT unhook one side of the spring
Slugging the barrel should reveal thread choke If you have thread choke and gun shoots OK then leave it alone. If gun does not shoot OK then Look at 2 places and that is beartoothbullets.com for correct supplies to remove it, and then look at singleactions.proboards.com and look under 2dogs write-up ion this subject. He shows in photos the correct way to address this. I have done several guns and Fermin is spot on with this post on the forum.
Cast Bullets will always shoot faster than jacketed! Jacketed bullets have too much friction. They will wear out a pistol much faster. Think about a rifles loosing accuracy after 3K rounds so you see what can happen. This is not in stone,, but a barrel is a barrel.
BFR and Freedomm Arms Pistols are the most accurate out of the box, for store bought. Custom pistols the price range goes way higher depending upon what is entailed.
Rugers are affordable for the most part, and even if you have to do this work which should be 200 - 300 dollars more you will still not have the investment of 1200 to 5K
Even if you customize the pistol with new sights, new barrel, reamed cylinder or a new Line Bored cylinder, trigger job and new grips all that can be sometimes less than a Freedom Arms pistol or a custom for sure. But in spite of all that,, I have seen stock Rugers that shoot good.
Cast Bullets. It is very important to get a good bullet for your pistol. Sized correct and the profile needs to be correct. Unfortunately there has been too many copies of the Keith Style, Bullets. Your work is cut out for you to find the correct bullet and the best way is to get on these 2 forums: castboolits.gunloads.com/forum and the singleactions.proboard.com
Ask and you will be given hundreds of loads. But you will have to sift through to find out what is best for your GUN.
Powders and loads: This can drive you crazy if the bullet selection didn't !! The correct combination can be a struggle, but there are some guidelines. One of them is to read Brian Pierce write-ups in Handloader magazine. The other thing is to try some what I call OLD STANDBYS Ex: a 250 gr SWC loaded with 10 grains of Unique (Ruger Only) 45 Cal
There are others for each caliber,, and this is not the only one for the 45 Colt.
I recently finally remembered my own sermon that I had preached,,, after trying different loads in the 44 SP with the results of Patterns instead of groups I lay down the 44 SP and decided I probably would sell it. This was a disappointment since I had done the list I stated here, Slugged barrel had trigger job, Fire Lapped the barrel (to remove the thread choke) and for cosmetic purpose replaced the scales ( new Grips) Then trying New factory ammo Cowboy stuff, and Buffalo Bore shot and shot. No Good !!! Fast forward to three years later,,, then I remembered like I said ,,, SO,, I tried Skeeters Load of 250 grain bullet with 7.5 grains of Unique. Hitting the Bullseye at 25yds and less than 4" at 50 yds So you see what I mean that trial and error is sometimes the only way to achieve the desired results.
Skeeter had loads for the 357 and the 44 SP Elmer Keith had them for everything and I felt like that I should try some of these OLD STANDBY Loads before writing off a gun. Be careful with Elmer Loads cause some of them are way too hot.
Every Gun is different and each one likes it's own formula and recipe for loads. I cannot give you the best load for your Pistol only some guidelines.
Do NOT let this discourage you!!! Please let it encourage you to put forth a little more effort to achieve your desired results. One of the best things too is called TRIGGER TIME The more you shoot the better you can be. It may surprise you to find that loads you thought were mediocre might turn to be the better ones. I hope this helps because that is all it was meant to do.
