Bill To Stop Social Security Gun Grab Introduced

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Posted by Jenn Jacques on February 6, 2016 at 11:28 am

Idaho Senator Mike Crapo has introduced legislation to protect social security recipient’s gun rights Thursday.

“It is inappropriate for the Social Security Administration to make determinations about an individual’s ability to buy or possess a firearm,” said Crapo. “This bill would protect the rights of Social Security beneficiaries from having their Constitutional rights arbitrarily revoked.

In 2013, President Obama directed all federal agency executives to “improve the availability of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).” It aimed to prohibit gun sales to citizens whose Social Security payments are handled by others by requiring the Social Security Administration to report them to the NICS, the same process used to prevent guns from being sold to felons, drug addicts, illegal immigrants, and others.

The process is already being used by the Department of Veteran Affairs to prohibit some veterans from owning firearms. A 2013 Senate report shows the VA has reported more than 143,000 beneficiaries, including roughly 83,000 veterans, to the “mental defective” category on NICS. According to the Times, more than half of the names on the VA list are people 80 or older, and often suffering from dementia.

As many as 4.2 million adults currently receive monthly Social Security benefits that are managed by someone else, referred to as “representative payees.”

Crapo’s bill, cosponsored by Senators Steve Daines (R-MT), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Joni Ernst (R-IA), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Dean Heller (R-NV), Jim Inhofe (R-OK), Jerry Moran (R-KS), Pat Roberts (R-KS) and Dan Sullivan (R-AK), was introduced today and will be referred to the Senate Committee on Finance. Companion legislation, H.R. 3516 has been introduced in the House by Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas
 
Quote:Crapo’s bill, cosponsored by Senators Steve Daines (R-MT), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Joni Ernst (R-IA), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Dean Heller (R-NV), Jim Inhofe (R-OK), Jerry Moran (R-KS), Pat Roberts (R-KS) and Dan Sullivan (R-AK),

There MUST be some mistake here! I didn't see a single (D) on the list of co-sponsors.
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Probably won't either.

Of course it is an election year, and a few of them may stray from partisan fold to save their [beeep] and garner a few votes.
 
Let me ask pose a few questions. If a person is deemed mentally handicapped to the point where he/she can't work, thus qualifies for social security benefits (non-senior under 65) should they be able to possess/purchase a weapon? For example lets say the crazy nephew, uncle, dad, or whoever received an injury or burned his brain up huffing gas and he is now a dim light bulb we can't trust with the tv remote. They have never been arrested therefore are not a restricted person.

We all have one of these people in the family tree someplace. Where is the tipping point or rather who decides these people should/should not possess/purchase a weapon?

If a person is claiming a mental disability to receive benefits under the social security rules is he of sound mind to posses/purchase a firearm?

How or where he received the injury or illness is irrelevant.

By the way the definition of a drug user is also irrelevant and should be removed. Nobody knows what this definition means and is not enforced. Generally if they are deemed a known drug user they have already been convicted of a felony drug crime and automatically are restricted. If a person is prescribed medical marijuana or oxy does this make them a known drug user?
 
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Does the form not already ask if the person has been deemed mentally incompetent. Also it asks if you are a user or addicted to illegal drugs.
It goes back to the question of who,with any of those problems or a host of others would buy a gun over the counter anyway.
Personally I don't know of a gun dealer who would risk their business to sell one gun when the buyer does not appear to be above board.Maybe it's different in other parts of the country.
 
littledawg, in answer to your questions..Quote:If a person is deemed mentally handicapped to the point where he/she can't work, thus qualifies for social security benefits (non-senior under 65) should they be able to possess/purchase a weapon?...
Yes they can, barring any other mental defect..i.e., Bipolar, advanced dementia, etc..Quote:Where is the tipping point or rather who decides these people should/should not possess/purchase a weapon currently, that is an adjudicated decision supported by a physicians trained evaluation....The problem currently is aggravated by the Hippa Laws that prevent physicians from disclosure to non authorized parties unless under a court subpoenaQuote:If a person is claiming a mental disability to receive benefits under the social security rules is he of sound mind to posses/purchase a firearm?,,,Again, yes, unless there are other emotional/mental factors..

Case in point, in 1999, we were rear ended by a semi moving 55mph while we were stopped for an accident ahead on a freeway...It left my wife disabled physically, and she also suffers from short term memory loss much of the time...She still has the legal ability to own a firearm since there are no other emotional problems ever noted over the last 16 years and she's been through many neurological and psychiatric evalustions...
 
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