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#2817548 - 03/27/15 04:48 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: GC]
shawn@mo Offline
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Registered: 11/25/14
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Loc: missouri,salem
Ya have a friend of ours thst has dogs and mules they are dedicated to hog hunting. They go around the fort wood area though..

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#2817591 - 03/27/15 07:44 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: GC]
randall729 Offline
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Loc: upper peninsula sault ste mari...
Using dogs, horses, mules? unheard of in mich. not 4 wheelers? Mostly these feral pigs are running around on private farmland where the food is. So this private farmland presents a problem to shoot one.
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#2817637 - 03/27/15 09:41 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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I figured most farmers would be ok with someone taking care of the problem

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#2817648 - 03/27/15 10:12 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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Dogs, horses or mules is the most efficient way to root hogs out of the steep and heavily timbered Ozark terrain. Motorized vehicles aren't allowed on most public ground in Missouri, definitely not off established trails. Much of the Ozark's is too steep and thick for extensive ATV use anyway. On blocks of public ground that number well into the tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of acres reaching hogs that are bayed by dogs deep in the interior won't happen unless you have equestrian help. Private farm fields and small wood lots would be different I suppose.
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#2817923 - 03/28/15 09:48 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: GC]
randall729 Offline
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Loc: upper peninsula sault ste mari...
very interesting about how it's so different in other states. sounds like rugged country which I never ever imagined.
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#2818057 - 03/29/15 10:24 AM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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Picture of typical public ground Ozark terrain I took while turkey hunting one spring morning...

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#2818217 - 03/29/15 09:07 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: GC]
shawn@mo Offline
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Thats my backyard lol!!!

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#2818245 - 03/29/15 09:47 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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Hearing many birds gobbling yet?
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#2818262 - 03/29/15 10:31 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: GC]
shawn@mo Offline
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I havent heard too many but I dont get to listen that much between work at 4 in the morning and a two year old sleeping patterns. But have heard people say they have. Got up one morning to take dogs out at 6 30 7ish heard 2 out on the porch that was it though.

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#2818344 - 03/30/15 07:22 AM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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They should be ready to crank up pretty good anytime now, given decent weather. We have been hearing some here and there.
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#2818601 - 03/30/15 10:24 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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Had a guy telling me he heard some while on the farm whipped out a caller to ser if he get them to answer but was no time they just showed up lol 3 of them so they are in full throttle answering snd coming in

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#2818669 - 03/31/15 08:28 AM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
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Registered: 08/09/03
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Loc: Northern Utah
Going back to the opening post, yes it is feasible. Idaho collared some lions a few years back as part of a study and within a few months had one turn up 600 miles away in Nevada. Another collared lion from Utah was captured 400 miles away in Colorado a relatively short time later.

Males in particular have their brains hard wired to seek out a territory and most become transients particularly in their younger years. Ask any experienced houndsman and they'll tell you horror stories about dumping their dogs on a "travelling tom." 25 miles in a single night is nothing for a young tom on the move.

Females on the other hand generally stay within a few miles from where they were born. So based on my experience with lions, what the Michigan DNR is saying makes sense to me.

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#2818825 - 03/31/15 07:06 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: GC]
randall729 Offline
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Loc: upper peninsula sault ste mari...
horses,mules, dogs, yes sir. for sure.
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#2818827 - 03/31/15 07:12 PM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: CacheCreek]
randall729 Offline
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Loc: upper peninsula sault ste mari...
thanks for the comment on the roaming males lions found in michigan. i still don't get why they travel so far away from where the female lions are in there home state?
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#2819287 - 04/02/15 08:01 AM Re: LION Question from a PM Michigan member [Re: randall729]
CacheCreek Offline
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Loc: Northern Utah
Originally Posted By: randall729
thanks for the comment on the roaming males lions found in michigan. i still don't get why they travel so far away from where the female lions are in there home state?


Where there are females there are generally bigger meaner toms too that have established territories in the area with an intolerance for interlopers. What can a young tom to do but to journey on?? The fact they show up in areas far from any females only means they are looking for love in all the wrong places..... unsure

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