I just shot my new dicks special, 93 .17, has accu-trigger, fluted bull barrel and cheap od green syn stock. With crap chinese scope that came with combo I am shooting 6 shot groups @ 100y that can be covered with a nickel. I rested gun on my range bag that's all. Extremely happy. I found it likes the federal tnt 17g hollow points, doesn't like the vmax as much. Groups spread to about 2in with those. Nice day with little to no wind. Haven't tried 20g yet, nor did I adj. Trigger. Sighted in at 25y then went right to 100. I also cleaned barrel with a boresnake after every 3 shots. Took almost 2 boxes of both ammo types to get it really dialed in. I have 3-4 full boxes of the vmax I would sell if anyone is interested, so I can replace it with the federal stuff.