4320 measures much better than Varget, and you can find it for sale. i also like it in my .17 rem. One of my older hornady books show's a 27 grain charge with a 55 gr bullet, i have no problem getting the powder in the case, but for my ar's it is over max, even 26 was a bit hot so 25.7 it is and nice shooting groups.Originally Posted By: TheshedhunterActually I would trade it for the Varget I can't get that here!!!!