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#2786113 - 01/26/15 03:24 PM Decoy dog help UPDATE VIDEO
bumpy999 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 19
Loc: Idaho
Hey guys,
Long time lurker here, i have tried taking my two airedales out calling(one three year old and one 6 months) mostly to no success untill yesterday when i called in a small female. Well my question is how do you get the dogs to not just hang around you? Theyve done alot of bird hunting but when i sit down they just want to come up to me alot and ive been worried that theyre pointing me out to the coyotes, yesterday when i got this female they were just playing with eachother and she keyed in on them but they never even saw her. Although she was so focused on them that after i missed the first shot she kept coming! Should i just try to get them on more dogs and eventually theyll understand? or should i try to hold off on shooting till the coyotes get closer so they hopefully will notice?




Sorry about the horrible pics i have to use the screen side camera on me iphone...


Edited by bumpy999 (12/05/18 05:25 AM)

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#2786124 - 01/26/15 03:35 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
DoubleCK Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Posts: 3485
Loc: Wauneta, NE / Gold Canyon, AZ
Sounds like they got it done to me. (-:

If you want them to pay less attention to you, be sure you ignore them when on stand. No pets, smiles, looks, etc. They only get attention at the vehicle. Pretty soon when you set up a stand, they will be looking for coyotes.

Keep it up. The more coyotes you put in front of them the more fun you are gonna have.
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#2786129 - 01/26/15 03:49 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
bumpy999 Offline
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Posts: 19
Loc: Idaho
Thanks DoubleCK i will definitely make sure i dont give them attention on stand, im gonna go back out now!

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#2786346 - 01/26/15 08:12 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
Airedale56 Offline
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Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 569
Loc: Wapiti, WY
My Purdy dog, the one in my avatar plants herself next to me when I sit down and start calling, just like she always has.
Just when I think she's not paying attention, her head snaps around and she is off like a rocket toward one I haven't seen.

Yours will pick it up, play tug of war with a few dead ones and you'll see the ol' Airedale shake. They'll make it a competition.
Take a look at these old posts. Yours will come along fine.


http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...903#Post1610903

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...768#Post1766768
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#2786359 - 01/26/15 08:29 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
bumpy999 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 19
Loc: Idaho
Ill take a look at those thanks, yea the three year old picked up the opne we got yesterday and carried it around like a toy, thanks for the suggestions. We did two sets today nada on the first and had a triple hang up at like 500-600 yds and just howl till dark.... ill be back for them

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#2786380 - 01/26/15 08:46 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
DoubleCK Offline
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Loc: Wauneta, NE / Gold Canyon, AZ
Originally Posted By: bumpy999
had a triple hang up at like 500-600 yds and just howl till dark.... ill be back for them


In a couple of months those groups will likely come on down to run those Fuzzballs out of their territory. Turns into the second most fun thing a man can do.

Pay close attention to my friend AD56. We been there. LOL
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#2786390 - 01/26/15 08:54 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
bumpy999 Offline
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Posts: 19
Loc: Idaho
i was wondering about that, and hopefully by then my pup Duke will be a little bigger and more brazen so he can help Copper out. Coppers fully grown and 65lbs everytime at the vet and Duke was 39lbs at 5 months.

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#2786434 - 01/26/15 09:24 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
DoubleCK Offline
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Loc: Wauneta, NE / Gold Canyon, AZ
Keep after 'em. Keep your dogs legged up. Make sure your rifle is sighted in.

Have Fun!
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#2786490 - 01/26/15 10:28 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
possumal Offline
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Loc: Nicholasville, Ky.
I really envy the guys who have good decoy dogs for their coyote hunting. I really like those Airedales as they are smart as can be and about as game as you will ever find. A coyote can't handle them.
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#2786936 - 01/27/15 03:55 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
DoubleCK Offline
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Loc: Wauneta, NE / Gold Canyon, AZ
I for one am anxious for the Decoy Season to get warmed up.

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#2786937 - 01/27/15 03:56 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: DoubleCK]
DoubleCK Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
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Loc: Wauneta, NE / Gold Canyon, AZ
Fun!










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#2786939 - 01/27/15 04:02 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
CAT DADDY COLD Offline
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Registered: 11/16/04
Posts: 1161
Loc: Comanche OK
its happening alittle right now on the right coyotes. Me and Grape made a stand before dark yesterday and she got some work in. Lots of challenge howls from the coyotes.

When it gets going good, watch your pup, they tend to go hard for the smaller dogs most of the time.

Stay after them
Kelly
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#2786962 - 01/27/15 04:49 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
Coyotejunki Offline
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Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: MO
Airedales are fun, the one I had sure was a clown. I miss her. However now I have a Curr and she also is a hoot in her own way. She isn't very gritty, but she loves to charge out to a coyote. I took her out last last week for some coyote calling. She did get bit by an aggressive male, then he took his last breath on this earth. She spots them and runs out towards them but stops a little short. The dog has spotted a few I didn't and she also found a couple I couldn't. Got to love a dog that uses it's nose. She starts out with tons of energy and cast out pretty good in the early stands, but slows down in the afternoon stands, often just laying at my feet.





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#2787197 - 01/27/15 10:27 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: DoubleCK]
Airedale56 Offline
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Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 569
Loc: Wapiti, WY
Originally Posted By: DoubleCK
Fun!





Hey Craig,
Did I blow that one in half or did you?
Grin
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#2787855 - 01/28/15 11:18 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
bumpy999 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 19
Loc: Idaho
Saw that triple again today, just wouldn't commit. Although my pup is kinda scarin me because he'll run off like i want the older dog to do but he'll just disapear for a while till i beep him on his collar

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#3175636 - 12/05/18 05:22 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
bumpy999 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
Posts: 19
Loc: Idaho
I know this is a very old post but Iíve since moved to Alaska and wanted to share a video of the ďpuppyĒ that I talked about 3 years ago, this was just the aftermath of calling in 6 coyotes and this was one I just winged that duke gladly finished off for me. This video is from March 2018 when I still lived in Idaho. If anyone is curious duke is right at 80lbs in this video. [video:youtube]https://youtu.be/BkuqofE7MrE[/video]

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#3175763 - 12/05/18 03:08 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
fastfossil Offline
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Registered: 11/15/15
Posts: 101
Loc: New Mexico
Just depends on what you want. My catahula (coyote bait) used to do the same thing and stayed very close to me on stand. At first I thought maybe she was half bind as she didnt seem to see the yotes till way after I did. But I liked it as she would stay close until the crack of the rifle and then she took off after them like a lightning bolt. Dont worry about getting busted by the yotes, when they see the dog they'll come in even if they see you! NOW she is 3 yrs. old and is begining to use all the sense's God has given her and she generally knows the coyote is there way before I do and now she takes right off after them which I m not sure is a great thing. Because now I have to be very careful when I chose to shoot. And this time of year the pups that come in will head for the next county as they dont want anything to do with other coyotes OR DOGS. But its all great fun either way. Also, your dog will soon learn not to take the chase to far, but if not I recamend you whistle him back as there are all ways more coyotes out there not to far away and after a few hunts you'll see the game starts change real fast as the coyotes will now be decoying your dog!!!! These coyotes are very very smart. Have fun and good hunting.

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#3176380 - 12/07/18 07:08 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
jimmy917 Offline
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Registered: 04/03/14
Posts: 63
Loc: Ohio
Please take the link down, as well as the YouTube video. No one needs to see your dog killing the coyote. It only feeds the anti-hunters argument that we arenít humane. Iím all for the hunt and the kill, but a dog killing a wounded coyote is extremely unhelpful.

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#3176612 - 12/08/18 08:13 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: jimmy917]
Kevinfarmer3456 Offline
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Registered: 03/11/18
Posts: 351
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: jimmy917
Please take the link down, as well as the YouTube video. No one needs to see your dog killing the coyote. It only feeds the anti-hunters argument that we arenít humane. Iím all for the hunt and the kill, but a dog killing a wounded coyote is extremely unhelpful.
oh shut up...the coyote is already dead, hes just training it to do what its supposed to do. Go get a latte and play games on ur ipad.

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#3176620 - 12/08/18 08:51 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: Kevinfarmer3456]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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a latte. lol lol lol
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#3176744 - 12/09/18 10:57 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
Posts: 1515
Loc: NW Arkansas
lol
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#3176879 - 12/09/18 07:46 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: Kevinfarmer3456]
jimmy917 Offline
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Registered: 04/03/14
Posts: 63
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: bumpy999
this was one I just winged that duke gladly finished off for me.



Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Also, watch the video again, the coyote is still alive.

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#3176892 - 12/09/18 08:25 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: jimmy917]
Kevinfarmer3456 Offline
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Registered: 03/11/18
Posts: 351
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: jimmy917
Originally Posted By: bumpy999
this was one I just winged that duke gladly finished off for me.



Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Also, watch the video again, the coyote is still alive.
at what point in the video is the coyote alive. Becasue ive watched it several times and i guarantee you that coyote is deader than dead thru the whole entire video.

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#3176906 - 12/09/18 10:02 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: Kevinfarmer3456]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kevinfarmer3456
Originally Posted By: jimmy917
Originally Posted By: bumpy999
this was one I just winged that duke gladly finished off for me.



Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Also, watch the video again, the coyote is still alive.
at what point in the video is the coyote alive. Becasue ive watched it several times and i guarantee you that coyote is deader than dead thru the whole entire video.


yep. that coyote was never alive during the length of that video.

jimmy, when a dead animal is shaken violently, the legs and stuff still move around. you are welcome. lol
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#3176959 - 12/10/18 09:36 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: SlickerThanSnot]
jimmy917 Offline
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Loc: Ohio
At the 18 second mark, there is a pretty substantial twitch in the rear legs. Could be post mortem firing of the nerves, sure, but all I'm saying is it needs not be posted for the world to see. I don't feel the need to post my resume here, but a portion of my income comes from hunting, trapping, and removal. I get it. I'm not posting this from the local Starbucks while sitting in my skinny jeans. I regularly see the expression on peoples faces change from happiness to sadness when I trap an animal, then tell them it has to be euthanized by law. Everyone not interested in wildlife seems to think we ship all the animals to Steve Irwins zoo or something. The last think we all need is put ourselves out there as cold hearted killers, who enjoy watching an animal be killed. I get it, sometimes what we do seems brutal, and sometimes its for the greater good, but some things just aren't for the public eye. That's all I'm saying.

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#3176968 - 12/10/18 10:17 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: jimmy917]
btech29 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/11
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Loc: NW Arkansas
Originally Posted By: jimmy917
At the 18 second mark, there is a pretty substantial twitch in the rear legs. Could be post mortem firing of the nerves, sure, but all I'm saying is it needs not be posted for the world to see. I don't feel the need to post my resume here, but a portion of my income comes from hunting, trapping, and removal. I get it. I'm not posting this from the local Starbucks while sitting in my skinny jeans. I regularly see the expression on peoples faces change from happiness to sadness when I trap an animal, then tell them it has to be euthanized by law. Everyone not interested in wildlife seems to think we ship all the animals to Steve Irwins zoo or something. The last think we all need is put ourselves out there as cold hearted killers, who enjoy watching an animal be killed. I get it, sometimes what we do seems brutal, and sometimes its for the greater good, but some things just aren't for the public eye. That's all I'm saying.


I totally get what your saying, and I agree to an extent. I never show my dogs wooling a coyote for very long on my vids. Everyone likes to think their dog "killed" the coyote for them, but in that vid the coyote was dead. That dog didnt kill anything, at least in the vid.
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#3176976 - 12/10/18 11:05 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
jimmy917 Offline
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Loc: Ohio
According to him it did, whether or not it was recorded. I just find this kind of stuff unhelpful to the cause. I wasnít looking to start a keyboard battle, I have no beef with anyone here. Iíd just rather not have this stuff circulating out there for some PETA member try to force me to explain to them a video like this. Kind of like the 20 year old wing nuts walking in to McDonalds with an AR -15 on their back. Legal? Yes. Helpful? No.

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#3176990 - 12/10/18 11:57 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: jimmy917]
SlickerThanSnot Offline
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Originally Posted By: jimmy917
some PETA member try to force me to explain to them a video like this.


i wouldn't waste one millisecond of my time trying to explain a single thing to a peta person. i dang sure might would, in fact probably would, say some things to one of those peta freaks if they wanted me to explain something, but it would not be in "explanation form". cant stand those idiots. much like i cant stand hard core liberals that want gun control. screw em. i aint wasting my time on them.
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#3177024 - 12/10/18 02:22 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: jimmy917]
Cowboy43 Offline
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Registered: 03/11/18
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Loc: S.E. Kansas
Originally Posted By: jimmy917
According to him it did, whether or not it was recorded. I just find this kind of stuff unhelpful to the cause. I wasnít looking to start a keyboard battle, I have no beef with anyone here. Iíd just rather not have this stuff circulating out there for some PETA member try to force me to explain to them a video like this. Kind of like the 20 year old wing nuts walking in to McDonalds with an AR -15 on their back. Legal? Yes. Helpful? No.
youve said your piece, now if the mods want it removed they will remove it. If they dont, and it bothers you that much.
1. Put said OP on ignore
2. Cancel your subscription to the forum and ask for a monetary refund.


Edited by Cowboy43 (12/10/18 02:23 PM)

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#3177095 - 12/10/18 06:51 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: Cowboy43]
btech29 Offline
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Though I do agree with the thought, PETA hates us no matter what we do. No amount of censoring will help.
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#3177671 - 12/12/18 11:11 PM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
gonzaga Offline
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Registered: 01/22/02
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Loc: Raton, NM U.S.A.
Glad to see that the lion bears and houndsman still can't get along....lol.
So much division when we are all after the same thing boys.
Take your dogs hunting, enjoy your dogs company and leave the bickering at the kitchen table.
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#3178397 - 12/16/18 03:33 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
bumpy999 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/12
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Loc: Idaho
At no point in that vid was that dog alive,I did hit it once with the 223 which ended up being a wounding hit but duke had been on that coyote for over 5 minutes,heís been on well over 100 coyotes and gotten physical with maybe 8-10 I just like to get him excited whenever we do get on some, if you donít like it donít watch it, wonít be putting anymore up since you canít hunt with dogs for coyotes here in Alaska where I live now

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#3184994 - 01/13/19 12:37 AM Re: Decoy dog help [Re: bumpy999]
Californiadoggers Offline
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Registered: 01/07/19
Posts: 58
Loc: California
great video thats what our dogs love to do thats their reward they earned. don't like it don't watch it simple

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