Obama: Marijuana 'no more dangerous than alcohol'

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -

Marijuana, which is still placed in the same category as heroin, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms by the federal government, is no more dangerous than alcohol, President Barack Obama said in an interview published Sunday.

Speaking to New Yorker editor David Remnick, Obama said he still viewed pot smoking negatively -- but that on the whole, the drug wasn't the social ill that it's been viewed as in the past.

"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol," Obama told the weekly magazine.

The president said pot was actually less dangerous that alcohol "in terms of its impact on the individual consumer."

"It's not something I encourage, and I've told my daughters I think it's a bad idea, a waste of time, not very healthy," he said.

Two states, Colorado and Washington, have legalized recreational marijuana use. Another 18, along with the District of Columbia, allow some legal pot use, primarily for medicinal purposes. But when it comes to federal law, marijuana remains a schedule 1 controlled substance -- a drug with high potential for abuse but no accepted medical use -- and the White House has said that Obama doesn't support changing that status.

Instead, Obama said in the New Yorker interview that he's focused on making laws that treat users fairly.

"We should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing," he told Remnick.

In August, Obama's Justice Department announced it would not challenge legalization in Colorado and Washington, and instead focus federal enforcement on trafficking cases and preventing pot from getting in the hands of kids. Prosecutors are now required to focus on distinct enforcement priorities that also include preventing driving while high and forbidding the cultivation of marijuana on public lands.

In the New Yorker, Obama said Colorado and Washington's laws were "important" since they decriminalized a commonly used substance. But he also said the laws could raise questions for other illegal substances.

"If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that?" Obama wondered. "If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"
 
Oddly enough my daughter was sitting on the couch next to me while i drank 2 glasses of wine. She didnt get drunk at all.
 
Before I comment on this, I'll give you a little background on myself. I'm 63 years old and pretty darn set in my ways. I consider myself to be a conservative person on most issues, and I am a Christian. I have never smoked marijuana, nor have I ever used any kind of illegal drug, and I might drink a glass of wine once a year. Having told you that about myself, I will then say that I am totally against the legalization of ANY kind of illegal drug, and that includes marijuana. I have seen what the use of marijuana can lead to, and although some people have probably used pot for years and never bothered anyone or anything, the fact is that it often leads to the use of harder drugs in the attempt to get that ultimate high. My late mother was a social worker at a childrens home, and had to take a lot of courses about child care and related subjects. She told me that everything she was told was that marijuana was anything but harmless. I know a lot of you will not agree with me, and that's okay, but I am very set in my belief that we do not need to legalize pot.

Now, as far as Obama goes.....he is a 100% card carrying socialist who will do anything to cater to his base. That base consists of people who think it's perfectly normal to get stoned.....just like it's perfectly normal to be a homosexual, or an environmental kook, or to outlaw guns, or even that it's okay to be a supporter of terrorism.
 
kymailman98...I appreciate your position on the subject and certainly will not argue that your are wrong...However, from a slightly different perspective on the subject, many years ago, while on a Leave of Absence (unpaid) as a LEO, I was riding with a trucker on one of his runs and we wound up in a truck stop in El Paso, TX without a load for four days..Now, he and I used to run together as teenagers back in the '50s and were probably as onery as any others...

Anyway, one of the other drivers had brought back some pot from south of the border and I tried it out, on top of a few beers and personally didn't like the effect...

Never touched the stuff again until a few years ago, when due to some serious health issues set in and sleep deprivation became a serious issue with me..I have a contact that was able to get me some medical grade Marijuana and a couple of light hits lets me sleep like a baby when things get really rough...I will have to say that it's certainly much safer than some of the sleep inducing drugs that are out on the market that doctors are prescribing to some of their patients that produce a temporary psychosis or depression....Like anything else in life...Moderation and common sense is the key....Abuse of any item is not good for the person or society in general...
 
Anything done to excess is bad for us I guess. I don't know if pot should be legal or not. In my experience a pot smoker is much easier to deal with than a drunk. An old man I once knew said taking a drink was not wrong. Getting drunk was wrong. Some people can manage their habits and some can not. When I think about pot I think about probation and how it made the ruling class for years to come. Think Kennedy. Now the same thing is happening with pot. It may not be legal but anyone can buy some within the hour if they look, so being illegal is not keeping anyone who wants it from getting it. As far as "hard" drugs, if folks had free access to all they wanted they would eliminate themselves soon enough. I don't like any of that stuff, but I like what is happening with the cartels even less. I would be in favor of almost anything that would cost the cartels money. Once money goes to the cartels it is lost to the working man. I understand that in some cities the black market for items other than drugs is popping up.If we are not careful the cartels will be running things in this country like they do just to the south of us.The only way I can think of to hurt them is to flood the market and take away the huge profits'. Without pot the mainstay money maker for the cartels would be much less. could be wrong but I believe the cartels already own many of our elected officials and some attorney general and such. As long as billions are there for the taking the drugs will continue. What good does it do to put some boy in jail for a dab of pot in his pocket when we can't even control who crosses our borders with tons of the stuff. If we tighten the border they will just grow more on this side which they are already doing. The harder drugs require more that drop a seed in the ground. Poppy's and coca don't grow well here.Maybe we could use the tax on pot to help pay for the unaffordable oboma act. Just think, if pot had been legal maybe O would still be laying in a bath house stoned to the gills.
 
Quote:Just think, if pot had been legal maybe O would still be laying in a bath house stoned to the gills.....There are times when I think that might just be the case with him now...Quote:When I think about pot I think about probation and how it made the ruling class for years to come. Think Kennedy...I think maybe you meant "Prohibition" ...
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Since old man Joseph Kennedy made his millions as a Bootlegger running rum out of Cuba..
 
i smoked plenty when younger. also got drunk alot. never got into an ornery mood smoking weed but sure got my head beat in quite a few times when drunk.
i have good friend that have been smoking pot for 30-40 years. can't say i've ever seen it affect them other then perhaps getting lazy.
as a whole, i think alcohol is worse than weed.
 
Being a funeral director by trade...I'm wondering how anyone can breathe smoke of ANY kind willingly into their oxygen exchange system...their lungs.

Recently here in Michigan, they've added a section to our death certificates that asks if the death was the result of smoking. The choices are yes, no, probably, or unknown. They do not ask (yet) if alcohol was a factor. Granted many more impairment type deaths are a result of alcohol, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights.

To play it safe, I try to stay home Friday and Saturday nights when the loonies are out, don't drink, and avoid all smoke...even campfire or burning leaves. Both drugs are a health risk, but in different manners.
 
A gateway drug, how many kids started with weed and graduated to hard drugs? Cant imagine any person in their right mind would like to be operated on by a doctor high on weed.
 
Originally Posted By: 17tacticalA gateway drug, how many kids started with weed and graduated to hard drugs? Cant imagine any person in their right mind would like to be operated on by a doctor high on weed.

I'd rather him be on weed than pills or alcohol. I've never seen anyone get rednecked on pot but have witnessed many fights among drunks. Here in Tn we have a major meth problem. Meth labs getting busted everyday or so it seems. Now those folks scare me but potheads never seem to cause any trouble. I figure when the other states see how much tax money Colorado and Washington get they will jump on the bandwagon too.
 
I've fought more people who were on pot than I care to think about. The only reason there haven't been more issues for those not on it is because lots of folks smoking stay at home so they don't get caught vs people being able to go out and have a drink in public. Of course I've also dealt with people who were running over other people because they were too busy doing bong hits to notice where their car was going.

It's kind of like saying you've never seen anyone attacked by an alligator, so obviously alligators don't hurt people, when you've never left kansas.

As an adult, do what you want. Shoot drano up your nose, it won't bother me at all. But anything that affects your brain affects your brain forever. The more of it you do and the more often you do it, the greater the effect. The most annoying thing about people pushing for legal weed is their statements that it's the best thing ever and only does good for you.

On 2nd thought, legalize it. I'm tired of hearing them talk
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Originally Posted By: KarlBeing a funeral director by trade...I'm wondering how anyone can breathe smoke of ANY kind willingly into their oxygen exchange system...their lungs.

Recently here in Michigan, they've added a section to our death certificates that asks if the death was the result of smoking. The choices are yes, no, probably, or unknown. They do not ask (yet) if alcohol was a factor. Granted many more impairment type deaths are a result of alcohol, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights.

To play it safe, I try to stay home Friday and Saturday nights when the loonies are out, don't drink, and avoid all smoke...even campfire or burning leaves. Both drugs are a health risk, but in different manners.

You do realize THC can be ingested without smoking it, right?

Tell me the last time you worked on someone who OD'd on THC? Now tell me the last time you worked on someone who OD'd on painkillers (accidental or intentional)? How 'bout someone who died of the DT's from alcohol?
 
Originally Posted By: 17tacticalA gateway drug, how many kids started with weed and graduated to hard drugs? Cant imagine any person in their right mind would like to be operated on by a doctor high on weed.

As someone said on another board, "with that kind of thinking, milk should be illegal because it's a gateway to coffee, and coffee should be illegal because it's a gateway to beer, and beer should be illegal because it's a gateway to whiskey...."

 
I don't smoke anything, never have never will, grew up in foster homes and seen plenty of the other side of the track life, but the gateway drug argument is just dumb.... Choices people make bad ones all the time, high or not.

I was a police officer for a few years and if I was fighting someone high on THC it was because another fat lazy taser happy cop usually provoked it.

Legalize everything...thin out some of the stupid people on the planet.
 
I am not worried about any health effects or progression to other drugs. What I am worried about is all the high school kids coming into a fresh world of legalized weed
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as they are shipping bus loads of foreigners over.
 
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