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#2503642 - 06/01/13 06:05 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Jeepyjer]
doggin coyotes Offline
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Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 10539
Loc: Colorado
I find pictures of dead coyote pups offensive too. The same as I would seeing pics of dead bear cubs, fox kits, bobcat kittens, hawk chicks, spotted fawns, baby bunnies or any other very young animal.


Yeah, yeah, I know. "If I'm offended, move on." Well that ain't happening, so save it for somebody else.
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#2503645 - 06/01/13 06:11 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: AWS]
Brownie Offline
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Registered: 10/03/09
Posts: 2223
Loc: Walla Walla, Washington, U,S,A
Originally Posted By: AWS
Sometimes you have to go out and take care of some problems. Bragging all over the internet about something that is pretty offensive to a lot of people is in poor taste. At least one of the other sights pulled the pics of the dead pups.

This is just the kind of things that libs in your home state can use to set seasons on coyotes, restrict e-callers and night hunting. We've already lost the use of decoy dogs, hounds or even just having your bird dog along on a coyote hunt.



The fact that your out in the woods with a gun and a call regardless of weather it's a hand call or ecall WITH THE INTENT TO KILL A COYOTE is ALL the Libs need to discriminate against you. Do you seriously think they care if your killing pups or teenagers or adults or old coyotes?? Your as foolish as them If you believe that. Now from now on if you or anyone else has a problem with this post PM me and we can talk in private or you can take it up with the mods. If you don't agree with it as I'm sure some don't then like previously stated MOVE ON. This thread has over 500 views and I'm sure not all agreed with it but they kept their opinions to themselves.
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#2503657 - 06/01/13 06:47 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Brownie]
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This is a FORUM not a rubber stamp for your action. When you post here you expect to have a discussion not a pat on the back unless all agree with you.

Websters, " 3. a) an assembly, place, radio program. etc. for the discussion of public matters or current questions b) an opportunity for open discussion."

So if you expect to post here and not have opposing views you might think about what you are posting.
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#2503667 - 06/01/13 07:40 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Brownie]
rockinbbar Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 10218
Loc: NM
I don't have one of the emoticons of eating popcorn, so I'll just sit back, and watch the show mostly from the fence... cool

That being said, I have done predator control work for a govt. agency before, and have seen every aspect of predator control up-close and personal. I had a requirement of photographing each dead animal, along with recording the GPS coordinates of the location, and other tasks. I have a virtual library of hundreds of photos...of hundreds of animals.

Some of them, I can, and will post.

Others...well, I won't post them, as I feel there is no need to include them in reflection of hunting stories and experiences told by me on an open forum.

For many of you, to be a paid Wildlife Specialist would be a "dream job"... I mean a govt. vehicle, all the gas paid for, and draw an almost decent wage to kill coyotes. Well, believe me when I tell you it's not all that savory an experience at times. But, to do proper predator control, it has got to be done if you are worth your beans. wink

Many is the time that I feel remorse for the animals.
To be clear, I have killed so many coyotes in some years that I almost feel sorry for them.... Almost. Reality seeps back in, and I am also aware of the damage they do, and havoc they wreak on entire industries and wildlife in U.S.

The "unsavory" aspect does rear it's head at times though. But the long range focus on what I was doing prevailed.

Now having you all know my position, I will say that the argument about posting things such as Brownie posted has always been controversial in nature in public forum. Not only the age of the coyotes, but graphic pictures as well from a couple of viewpoints can become controversial in itself... I know, as I have had my azz handed to me on one occasion for posting a picture not everyone agrees with before...
So, there is validity to the point already made that if you post a subject for discussion, be ready to accept the looming discussion, and points of view that may differ from the original intent of the thread.

It's just the nature of the beast.

For me personally, I am not offended. But, I will keep a portion of my vast library of photos private, and not open them up to discussion. Beyond that, I won't have those picture become part of the arsenal that will be used to restrict, limit, or infringe on the sport that all of us obviously enjoy.

~Barry
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#2503678 - 06/01/13 08:15 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Brownie]
yotehunter243 Offline
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Registered: 12/20/10
Posts: 2254
Loc: Indiana
If you don't like it move on. Doggin I think you just sit around waiting on posts to argue with people on. Thats about all your posts are.

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#2503780 - 06/02/13 01:25 AM Re: A day of dens [Re: yotehunter243]
DannoBoone Offline
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Registered: 03/08/10
Posts: 972
Loc: Walker, IA
SW Nebraska. March 1962. Cows were calving. One foggy morning on
the school bus, we came upon a frightful scene. A neighbor's
herd had been invaded by a pack of four coyotes which had singled
out a certain cow and calf. The battle had obviously been going
on for awhile....the cow's tongue was hanging way out as she
was whirling around and around to fight off the yotes. As the
bus went on down the road, one coyote grabbed the calf's hind
quarters and another was going for the throat. The other two were
still harassing the cow as the fog obscured our view. Next stop
was to pick up that farmer's kids and a couple of us ran to the
house to warn him of the events in his pasture. He grabbed his
.30-06 off the gun rack and was out of the yard in his pickup
before the bus got out. We learned that evening he was too late
to save the calf. It was still alive but the rear end was
shredded and partially eaten, so he had to put it out of it's
misery. But not before getting one of the coyotes. Calves are
so darned cute when they are just a few days old, and that one
was no exception.

Upon seeing the photos in this thread, I thought, "They are
cute at that age.", but I know only too well what they do when
adults. It's easy for me to see why a rancher wants any and all
coyotes destroyed.

What really slays me is that most of the anti's who would have
a fit over the photos here have no qualms over aborted humans.
Perhaps there should be more photos of them in some forum
somewhere.

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#2503782 - 06/02/13 01:35 AM Re: A day of dens [Re: Brownie]
Dirt Nap Offline
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Registered: 11/26/09
Posts: 465
Loc: AZ
Good job Brownie! Being from Cali explains a lot!


Edited by Dirt Nap (06/02/13 01:36 AM)

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#2503802 - 06/02/13 06:49 AM Re: A day of dens [Re: Brownie]
yotehunter243 Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 12/20/10
Posts: 2254
Loc: Indiana
^^^^^ I was thinking the same thing but wasn't going to say it Dirt Nap

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#2503940 - 06/02/13 02:28 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Dirt Nap]
Jeepyjer Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 495
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: Dirt Nap
Good job Brownie! Being from Cali explains a lot!
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Was that directed towards me ?Not everyone from here is liberal the central valley is conservative as any place.

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#2503958 - 06/02/13 03:48 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: rockinbbar]
Fursniper Offline
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Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1964
Loc: AZ
Originally Posted By: rockinbbar
I don't have one of the emoticons of eating popcorn, so I'll just sit back, and watch the show mostly from the fence... cool
~Barry


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#2504011 - 06/02/13 05:33 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Brownie]
Orneryolfart357 Offline
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Registered: 10/06/07
Posts: 9053
Loc: Nevada
When one stumbles upon a nest of Rattlesnakes they should only remove the parents?
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#2504022 - 06/02/13 05:49 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Orneryolfart357]
Dirt Nap Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 11/26/09
Posts: 465
Loc: AZ
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357
When one stumbles upon a nest of Rattlesnakes they should only remove the parents?


+1. Pretty much ends the discussion!

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#2504051 - 06/02/13 07:37 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Fursniper]
rockinbbar Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 10218
Loc: NM
Originally Posted By: Fursniper
Originally Posted By: rockinbbar
I don't have one of the emoticons of eating popcorn, so I'll just sit back, and watch the show mostly from the fence... cool
~Barry


Here you go, I'll let you borrow one of mine while I use the other one. ___


Popcorn and beer isn't a bad combination at all! thumbup1
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#2504055 - 06/02/13 07:56 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: Jeepyjer]
jglynn Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 01/12/11
Posts: 1787
Loc: Southeast Oklahoma
Originally Posted By: Jeepyjer
I call and kill adult dogs. Those are like picking off squirrels if you guys thing that makes you a coyote hunter then go for .I want a challenge that's why I don't kill the ones I find in the fields they are to easy like shooting pups out side a den.I thought this a hard core calling forum a person would think it was with all the custom call makers.


you kill adult dogs!!?? that is worse than killing baby coyotes!!!

the difference between you and alot of us is that we take care of coyotes for our ranches and others ranches. apperantley, you are just a weekend warrior that does it for the thrill. we do it for the bottom line of profit at the end of the year!

i find no offense in these pics. it is how this works in the real world.

do you age all the coyotes "on the hoof" before you deccide to shoot them???
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#2504088 - 06/02/13 09:29 PM Re: A day of dens [Re: jglynn]
Jeepyjer Offline
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Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 495
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: jglynn
Originally Posted By: Jeepyjer
I call and kill adult dogs. Those are like picking off squirrels if you guys thing that makes you a coyote hunter then go for .I want a challenge that's why I don't kill the ones I find in the fields they are to easy like shooting pups out side a den.I thought this a hard core calling forum a person would think it was with all the custom call makers.


you kill adult dogs!!?? that is worse than killing baby coyotes!!!

the difference between you and alot of us is that we take care of coyotes for our ranches and others ranches. apperantley, you are just a weekend warrior that does it for the thrill. we do it for the bottom line of profit at the end of the year!

i find no offense in these pics. it is how this works in the real world.

do you age all the coyotes "on the hoof" before you deccide to shoot them???

Baby coyotes!! [beeep] sounds like a city person baby cow's I hate that.I know den hunting has to be done but bragging about it like it was such a big accomplishment was what got to me I guess.
Week end warrior!! no I kill them during the week days too.



Edited by Jeepyjer (06/02/13 09:42 PM)

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