Christensen Arms

Predator Masters using UBB.threads ™ Infopop Corporation.
PM Gear Moon & Weather

Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums
Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at





PM Gear
PM Gear
PM Gear
The Official Predator Masters Search Engine
Search Predator Masters

Topic Options
#2407353 - 01/22/13 02:44 PM Savage Axis or Ruger American
Billsauk Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/11/11
Posts: 473
Loc: Sauk Centre, MN
I have one .243 and 2 11 year old boys. I'm wanting to get another .243 for deer hunting with the kids. I'm wondering which rifle to get here. I have read the threads recently about how good the Axis shoots, but don't really know much about the American. I know it gets good reviews in the gun mags, but I don't put much faith in their reviews. How are the real world reviews on the Ruger American. I know I'm looking at entry level rifles here but with growing boys I don't want to buy a spendy rifle in .243 and then later as they get bigger buy 2 more larger cal rifles. So what's your opinion of the 2 rifles, and which would you go with in my situation? Thanks Bill

Top
#2407380 - 01/22/13 03:09 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
LocustValley Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 01/03/13
Posts: 65
Loc: Iowa
I think the axis is a really good rifle for the money, I don't think you could go wrong with it for your boys. I have a axis 25-06 and it shoots great. I don't know much about the American but I imagine its a good rifle as well. Maybe take the boys to check them out and see what fits the the best.

Good luck!

Top
#2407394 - 01/22/13 03:18 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
ameliafoxkiller Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 230
Loc: rice virginia
I think the ruger has a adjustable trigger..the axis trigger sucks bad really heavy but you can get a aftermarket around a hundred bucks or so

Top
#2407398 - 01/22/13 03:20 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
ameliafoxkiller Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 230
Loc: rice virginia
Also check walmart for a savage with the accu trigger i paid under 4 for mine to be exact it was 385.98 just seen the paper work

Top
#2407403 - 01/22/13 03:26 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: ameliafoxkiller]
The Famous Grouse Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/09/09
Posts: 1116
Loc: St. Paul, MN
Both are good rifles.

While everyone will mention the trigger, I would question how much this matters given your specific need. Yes, the Ruger has an adjustable trigger wheras the Axis does not.

With that said, do you really want to be dialing down the trigger pull on a hunting rifle that will be used by young hunters? Up to you, but let's just say that I'm not a fan of this fad of setting up hunting rifles with hair triggers.

This "issue" of the Axis trigger is somewhat overblown. I took my Axis out the first time and with the factory trigger (7.1 pound pull) and factory ammo, I shot a 1.05 inch group. And that'd be a real group of 5 shots, not a Get Lucky Group of 3. All these guys that seem to need a hair trigger to be able to hit the broad side of a barn maybe should look at technique more and equipment mods less.

What would tip the scale for me is if you can get the Ruger for a price like they were offering back in December with the $100 rebate. Wow.

Grouse

Top
#2407405 - 01/22/13 03:29 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
moladihunter Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/18/09
Posts: 176
Loc: Northern Missouri
My husband has both and I have the American. They are both good rifles. The only thing my husband does not like about his Axis is the trigger pull.
_________________________
I'd rather be hunting and fishing.


Top
#2407442 - 01/22/13 03:58 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
CTG Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 04/15/12
Posts: 213
Loc: SE Oklahoma
I like the Axis my dad has one in 22-250 and it shoots great. The trigger is a touch over 5 pounds but he can shoot less than 1 inch groups (5 shots) AT 100 yards. That is with the package scope.

Top
#2408198 - 01/23/13 05:26 AM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
Billsauk Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 12/11/11
Posts: 473
Loc: Sauk Centre, MN
Thanks for the info! I'll have to do a little shopping around. It would be nice to find the American with the rebate.

Top
#2408345 - 01/23/13 10:25 AM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
MGYSGT Offline
Die Hard Member III

Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 2642
Loc: Arizona
You can adjust the Axis trigger with a snip of the tension spring behind the trigger. Easy to do in about 10 min. Mine is now 3 lbs. Look on U tube for a video.

Tom
_________________________
Life Member NRA, even though I don't always agree.

IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE, DON'T COMPLAIN.
IF YOU DID VOTE, REJOICE

Top
#2408370 - 01/23/13 10:50 AM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
RSG Offline
New Member

Registered: 02/20/07
Posts: 20
Loc: PEORIA,AZ
If you get the Savage Axis search "Stock and trigger mods for a Savage Edge" on this forum. This is a great writeup.
RSG

Top
#2408388 - 01/23/13 11:08 AM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
afhunter1 Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/03/11
Posts: 237
Loc: Bedford, PA
Marlin XS7. Don't mess with the others until you hold the Marlin. Also mine shoots two different factory loads in .75"

Top
#2408430 - 01/23/13 12:03 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: Billsauk]
Bitman Offline
Seasoned Member

Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 173
Loc: West Michigan
The Ruger American is now available in a .243 Compact model.
Which has a 12-1/2" LOP, which would be just great for the kids. I just ordered one myself, for my Grandson.

Top
#2409941 - 01/24/13 05:15 PM Re: Savage Axis or Ruger American [Re: MGYSGT]
The Famous Grouse Offline
Die Hard Member II

Registered: 12/09/09
Posts: 1116
Loc: St. Paul, MN
Originally Posted By: MGYSGT
You can adjust the Axis trigger with a snip of the tension spring behind the trigger. Easy to do in about 10 min. Mine is now 3 lbs. Look on U tube for a video.

Tom


Per RSG's recommendation above, I would advise reading the whole procedure. I understand that just shortening the existing spring can produce a similar result, but doing this produces a different set of safety concerns that anyone who is trying it needs to be fully aware of.

IMO, replacing the spring with a lower-tension spring AND adjusting the spring's length per the instructions in the post is the way to go.

Whatever you do, make absolutely sure that you test to make sure the sear won't release should the gun be dropped or bumped during normal use. If you DON'T know how to test for this, you should not be making trigger mods at all.

It's fun to be able to make mods like this, but please make sure you know enough to make them carefully and safely.

Grouse

Top



Moderator:  Infidel 762 

© Predator Masters™, All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.