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#2372481 - 12/26/12 11:43 PM turkey loads for fox
davejohnson3 Offline
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Registered: 12/03/10
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buddy shot a fox last night, 49 yard shot with 3" #4s and took 2 shots, it ran about 20 yards into some brush but we found em. i am not sure if we would have found it with one shot but i am convinced that turkey loads would be enough for em. i picked up some kent 3 1/2" 2 oz #4s for my 835 to use for fox with a turkey choke, think that a 3 1/2" would anchor em faster? anyone else use turkey loads for em?

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#2372489 - 12/26/12 11:51 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
EasternPredHunter Offline
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I use #6 in a 410 for coon and it only takes one shot. That should work at reasonable distances.
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#2372492 - 12/26/12 11:53 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
davejohnson3 Offline
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yeah distance would be around 40 yards maybe 50 max. i have killed turkeys at 66 with #6 shot out of that gun. patterns real well

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#2372653 - 12/27/12 08:37 AM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
EasternPredHunter Offline
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I wouldnt take shots that far with that load. 30 yards max. If you want to shoot them out to 50 yards try a box of #BB 3".
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#2372675 - 12/27/12 09:13 AM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
Bernie P. Offline
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Registered: 02/06/10
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Loc: NY Adirondack Park
Did you use the Ulti choke?Regardless I have the same gun and with the Ulti choke I get great Patterns with Feds 3" BB load.IMO that would be better than any 4 shot load with a good bit less recoil/better penetration.

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#2372681 - 12/27/12 09:19 AM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
davejohnson3 Offline
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Registered: 12/03/10
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Loc: NY
i have the ulti choke, a comp n choke, and a MAD turkey choke. i may try out the bb loads

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#2372695 - 12/27/12 09:33 AM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
dubllung4 Offline
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Registered: 12/30/10
Posts: 119
Loc: Michigan
I've shot coyotes with 20 gauge 3" number 6 turkey loads, so it should work just fine. I wasn't coyote hunting but they seem to like my decoys...

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#2372918 - 12/27/12 12:52 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
Varminterror Offline
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Registered: 03/23/12
Posts: 2876
Loc: Kansas
I'm surprised to see so many guys convinced that a 12lb fox is THAT MUCH TOUGHER than a 20lb turkey? Many of the load/choke combos out there now are easily 60yrd turkey weapons, after swatting feral cats at 50-60yrds with my turkey gun (Benelli Supernova, Tru-glo Gobble Stopper choke, 3.5" Winchester Supreme High Velocity Turkey 5's-now called "Double-X"), I'd be hard pressed to say it wouldn't work well enough on fox too.

BUT....

I personally wouldn't be excited about using turkey loads for fox, mostly because I don't really see a reason to do so? #4 buck loads are readily available, and they're not any more expensive than turkey loads, so I guess I just don't see why you'd use turkey loads?
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#2372939 - 12/27/12 01:01 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: Varminterror]
EasternPredHunter Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: Varminterror
I'm surprised to see so many guys convinced that a 12lb fox is THAT MUCH TOUGHER than a 20lb turkey? Many of the load/choke combos out there now are easily 60yrd turkey weapons, after swatting feral cats at 50-60yrds with my turkey gun (Benelli Supernova, Tru-glo Gobble Stopper choke, 3.5" Winchester Supreme High Velocity Turkey 5's-now called "Double-X"), I'd be hard pressed to say it wouldn't work well enough on fox too.

BUT....

I personally wouldn't be excited about using turkey loads for fox, mostly because I don't really see a reason to do so? #4 buck loads are readily available, and they're not any more expensive than turkey loads, so I guess I just don't see why you'd use turkey loads?

I dont think it is so much a matter of weight as it is body composition. Fox are small but i have seen them take alot of punishment before giving up the grave.
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#2373033 - 12/27/12 02:17 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
davejohnson3 Offline
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i am just thinking about using them because i already have them available to me, no one locally sells #4 buck, and im not supporting dicks sporting goods at this time since they pulled all their guns off the shelves. i shot today at 40 yards and got 30 pellets in a paper plate, and 10 in the small 4" circle in the middle. im guessing that will do. 40 yards would be max probably most shots wouldbe about 30 anyways

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#2373077 - 12/27/12 02:53 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
EasternPredHunter Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: davejohnson3
i am just thinking about using them because i already have them available to me, no one locally sells #4 buck, and im not supporting dicks sporting goods at this time since they pulled all their guns off the shelves. i shot today at 40 yards and got 30 pellets in a paper plate, and 10 in the small 4" circle in the middle. im guessing that will do. 40 yards would be max probably most shots wouldbe about 30 anyways

if shots average 30 yards you are good to go
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#2373260 - 12/27/12 05:55 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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Back when I was a kid, the local hound/fox guys ran plated #4 shot. Normally it was pretty close shooting and if they didn't kill the fox the hounds would catch it.

As fas as going out and calling fox, I'd say skip the turkey loads and get some Nitro #2 shot or my fav is the copper plated BB. The BBs kill at a good distance and work on yotes to.

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#2373263 - 12/27/12 05:59 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: Varminterror]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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Originally Posted By: Varminterror
I'm surprised to see so many guys convinced that a 12lb fox is THAT MUCH TOUGHER than a 20lb turkey?

Swatting a turkey in the head and neck isn't the same as having to penetrate fur and flesh to get to the vitals on a fox.

They both need a good and proper hit reguardless of what you are useing,however.

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#2373279 - 12/27/12 06:09 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: Tim Neitzke]
fw707 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tim Neitzke
Originally Posted By: Varminterror
I'm surprised to see so many guys convinced that a 12lb fox is THAT MUCH TOUGHER than a 20lb turkey?

Swatting a turkey in the head and neck isn't the same as having to penetrate fur and flesh to get to the vitals on a fox.

They both need a good and proper hit reguardless of what you are useing,however.


Tim's right. Big difference in a turkey and a fox.
I kill turkeys with #6 shot.
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#2373283 - 12/27/12 06:12 PM Re: turkey loads for fox [Re: davejohnson3]
Tim Neitzke Offline
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grin

Jeff,
You got many fox/hound guys in Ky these days ? I know it used to be a big deal.

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