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#236814 - 01/23/04 04:59 AM 03-04 Hunt data
Critr Gitr Offline
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Registered: 04/21/01
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Loc: Oak Ridge, TN
Unfortunately, a number of people did not turn in data cards. I have identified several, and sent emails for their information. Some have replied; more replies are expected.

The cards counted include the ones I was able to generate using information from other cards. The data on some is incomplete, and will be updated by editing as more information is received.

The figures below reflect the data received to-date.

Number of data cards: 57
Number of data cards by hunters: 49

Hunter-days on San Carlos: 102
Hunter-days off res: 12

Coyotes seen on San Carlos: 102
Coyotes seen off res: 6

Foxes seen on San Carlos: 8
Foxes seen off res: 3

Badgers seen on San Carlos: 0
Badgers seen off res: 1

Bobcats seen on San Carlos: 4
Bobcats seen off res: 0

Lions seen on San Carlos: 2
Lions seen off res: 0

Coyotes killed on San Carlos: 31
Coyotes killed off res: 5

Foxes killed on San Carlos: 5
Foxes killed off res: 0

Badgers killed on San Carlos: 0
Badgers killed off res: 1

Bobcats killed on San Carlos: 1
Bobcats killed off res: 0

Lions killed: 0

Total kills: 43
Average = 2.65 hunter-days per kill.

(On our last hunt, there were 9 kills reported, for an average of 7.1 hunter-days per kill!)

Randy Merta reported the only bobcat kill.
It appears that Randy also took the greatest number on animals, with 1 bobcat and 4 coyotes.
Close on his heels were Tom Moore with 4 coyotes, and Michael McCasland with 3 coyotes and 1 fox.
Anyone else get 4?
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#236815 - 01/23/04 07:56 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
purdygood Offline
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Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 1277
Loc: Foster,Oklahoma
Thanks Critr for all the number crunching.........I bet your fingers have calouses from whooping on the calculator.

Those are some really good stats.What a success the hunt was.

The San Carlos officals should be be happy with those results.
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#236816 - 01/23/04 08:42 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
drscott Offline
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Registered: 02/18/03
Posts: 751
Loc: Southwestern NM.
Critr, I must have mis-read the card. That was the total # of kills for me and the guys I hunted with. I was just the caller.

Scott
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#236817 - 01/23/04 09:50 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
Dog Pounder Offline
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Registered: 02/05/03
Posts: 7
Loc: Centerville, Utah
Scott, I wouldn't be too concerned about taking credit for the kills, If you hadn't been calling we wouldn't have been shooting. Thanks again for a great hunting experience, Dogn and I learned alot from you and will have more confidence when we get out calling again.

Take care,

Mark

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#236818 - 01/23/04 09:54 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
Michael J. McCasland Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 9470
Loc: Tucson,Az
7 is excellent no matter what, you called em close enough for decent shots. We were able to rake in 6 animals (4 coyotes, 1 fox, 1 badger) both on and off the reservation. I was extremely happy.
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#236819 - 01/23/04 10:18 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
Dogn Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 321
Loc: Salt Lake City
Scott, think of the number of dogs we would have put down if we had caught all of the dogs sneaking in the back door! I think the 7 would have been more around 12.

Scott is an awesome caller with tactics that are fast, nearly care free and work great. I also learned a ton and have much more confidence than before, I also had a great time hunting with you and look forward to seeing you next year. Maybe Dogpounder can get some pictures posted soon.

Thanks again!

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#236820 - 01/23/04 10:35 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
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Loc: Oak Ridge, TN
Scott, drop me an email so that we can get the data corrected. Thanks.
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#236821 - 01/23/04 06:43 PM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
BroncoGlenn Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 3583
Loc: Henderson, Nevada
Wel, I shoulda brought back 2 and a half coyotes instead of one. I pulled the shot on one of them so I could have had that had I kept my crosshairs steady. And if I brought the scattergun on the first stand I would have had another, but I figgured he'd only count as a half, since he was a yearling and would have taken a 2 1/4 ounce 48 pellet load of #4 buck at 1250 fps and 20 steps, and a half a dog is all that probably would have been left.

But hey, it's not like I'm using a .30-06 loaded with TNTs to shoot foxes with... :rolleyes:
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#236822 - 01/24/04 08:15 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
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Registered: 04/22/01
Posts: 6010
Loc: Oak Hills, Ca
Pretty nice stats there. A great hunt indeed.

Thanks for the information Critr.......

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#236823 - 01/25/04 04:29 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
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Loc: Oak Ridge, TN
Data edited as additional info received.
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#236824 - 01/26/04 08:38 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
Michael J. McCasland Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 9470
Loc: Tucson,Az
I think the Reservation will be pleased with th numbers taken, Last year PM didn't do nearly as well but the folks from the Phoenix predator hunting clubs went up in the late spring and took a bunch of foxes and the Reservation was pleased. But their main concern was coyotes. It looks like PM raked in a respectable number AND paid the reservation a nice tidy little sum of $1,020 to do it, that only takes into account the Predator tags, $5.00 per hunter/year for a habitat stamp, $10.00 a per hunter/year for lion tag & $10.00 a day to actually hunt'em. Yep, I think the reservation did right well by PM this year.

Critr - We need to drop these stats (LEave out what the Reservation made off us) and a big thank you for the talk on Thursday night (It probably would not be good to mention the no-show on Sunday) on the officials at the San Carlos ASAP.
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#236825 - 01/26/04 09:08 AM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
Tommy Johnson Offline
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Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 4807
Loc: Midland, Texas
I think the Casino made out like a bandit on some members to. So add a few more hundred.

I took em for some though.

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#236826 - 01/26/04 12:07 PM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
randy merta Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 464
Loc: chandler,indiana
From what I read the Texas DPS made some money also. Hehe

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#236827 - 01/26/04 02:21 PM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
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Registered: 04/21/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Oak Ridge, TN
I talked to the director, Harold Noschissey, after I got home, and thanked him for Matt Hopkin's talk and discussions with us Thursday night. He expressed his apologies that things did not work out Sunday with Stephanie White.

Also, I have been in contact with Matt via email, and gave him a link to this thread for his info on the data.

Hey, Matt, if you want to jump into the discussion, just click on "Register", sign on as a member, post something, and we will welcome you.
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#236828 - 01/26/04 03:16 PM Re: 03-04 Hunt data
Michael J. McCasland Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 9470
Loc: Tucson,Az
There's nothing like a nice official looking letter from PM sent to all the San Carlos representatives that we had dealings with.
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