I thought it would be a good idea to post exactly what "doggin coyotes" and I are referring to in my .30 carbine post. Maybe this will give some of you some ideas for me.
A friend has a nearby 480 ranch in the So. Cal mountains near the Mexican border. It can be a very dangerous place for a number of reasons.
1)There are many feral dogs, wild cats, coyotes by the hundreds, fox, etc.
2) We have the occasional wolf come across from the higher mountains in northern Baja. Bears too, it has been rumored, but rarely, and that's not part of my need.
3) Unfortunately, there are some other domiciles within long range rifle distance.
4) To complicate all this, we also have night prowlers in the form of illegal traffic. Not that I would shoot them under normal circumstances. Unfortunately, again, we do have bandidos on those trails, and unscrupulous trafficers we call coyotes (the human kind, and they will kill you if they feel the need). The movies and TV documentaries about the border are NOT B.S. I would never shoot any of these persons unless they were a threat, and they would never be a threat at long distances. The good and honest "immigrants" are only looking for work to provide for their families.
Sooo, my problem is, at short ranges, to kill predators of all kinds without hitting the neighbors, or anything else I don't want to hit. Because these are all "threats" within short ranges only, I am looking for a caliber that drops off like a rock and fizzles out in energy after 150-200 yards. In other words, this gun is not a toy. It is to be a specific-use, as-needed "tool". The effective short range of the .30, with it's loss of energy is ideal. My only other choice, it seems is the .22 Hornet, .25-20 (which is too weak), and some other calibers like those. I am NOT at all interested in wildcat calibers, rare, or hard-to-get calibers, or those that I have to reload because I can't easily get the ammo. I have a lot better things to do than spend a great deal of time reloading.
I have thousands of rounds of .30 brass, but not much .38, which I wouldn't use anyway, and even less .357 (a caliber I do not like. I prefer the .44), so my reloading would be cheaper.
Boy, that was a mouthful. I always enjoy these discussions because I learn so much /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Thank you!!!
A friend has a nearby 480 ranch in the So. Cal mountains near the Mexican border. It can be a very dangerous place for a number of reasons.
1)There are many feral dogs, wild cats, coyotes by the hundreds, fox, etc.
2) We have the occasional wolf come across from the higher mountains in northern Baja. Bears too, it has been rumored, but rarely, and that's not part of my need.
3) Unfortunately, there are some other domiciles within long range rifle distance.
4) To complicate all this, we also have night prowlers in the form of illegal traffic. Not that I would shoot them under normal circumstances. Unfortunately, again, we do have bandidos on those trails, and unscrupulous trafficers we call coyotes (the human kind, and they will kill you if they feel the need). The movies and TV documentaries about the border are NOT B.S. I would never shoot any of these persons unless they were a threat, and they would never be a threat at long distances. The good and honest "immigrants" are only looking for work to provide for their families.
Sooo, my problem is, at short ranges, to kill predators of all kinds without hitting the neighbors, or anything else I don't want to hit. Because these are all "threats" within short ranges only, I am looking for a caliber that drops off like a rock and fizzles out in energy after 150-200 yards. In other words, this gun is not a toy. It is to be a specific-use, as-needed "tool". The effective short range of the .30, with it's loss of energy is ideal. My only other choice, it seems is the .22 Hornet, .25-20 (which is too weak), and some other calibers like those. I am NOT at all interested in wildcat calibers, rare, or hard-to-get calibers, or those that I have to reload because I can't easily get the ammo. I have a lot better things to do than spend a great deal of time reloading.
I have thousands of rounds of .30 brass, but not much .38, which I wouldn't use anyway, and even less .357 (a caliber I do not like. I prefer the .44), so my reloading would be cheaper.
Boy, that was a mouthful. I always enjoy these discussions because I learn so much /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Thank you!!!