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#2267099 - 08/11/12 12:35 PM Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American
EasternPredHunter Offline
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What do you like better and why? I was thinking about picking up a 1500 in .243, but I went to Legacy's website and didn't see the 1500 on there. Was it discontinued?

Where is Howa made?

Thanks


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#2267100 - 08/11/12 12:42 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
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Howa is made in Japan.

Check out CDNN, they have some great prices right now.

For me, one of the best bangs for the buck out there.

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#2267125 - 08/11/12 01:38 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
Darkker Offline
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Yep Howa is Japanese, they make Weatherby's Vangard also.
Go to:
www.grabagun.com
www.gungenie.com

Both have a bunch in-stock.
Personally I don't like the stock on the 'Merican at all. It is bigger than typical tupperware, but not much more rigid.
The Howa you can get a Hogue on. Those things weigh a ton, but are good stocks.
Al things relative I suppose, but if you are looking for a good shooting, inexpensive rifle; I'm VERY happy with my Marlin X7's.

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#2267141 - 08/11/12 02:11 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
wisel86 Offline
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Registered: 10/04/11
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I love mine. I can hold a sub 1 inch group at 200 yards.
and its awesome for the price. I got mine used for $625 shipped.




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#2267142 - 08/11/12 02:13 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
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EPH, you still building an AR ?
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#2267216 - 08/11/12 04:35 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
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Yes, but im holding off right now as i need a calling rifle as soon as possible.

After some more research, im not to sure I would be happy with either of these guns. I was gonna pick up a stevens 200, but i didnt think about the button rifled barrel. I heard that the button rifled barrels have inconsistent twist rates. Plus, i havent seen any long range shots with the stevens, and i dont want to be the first to try and find out I just bought a 100 yard only rifle smile
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#2267220 - 08/11/12 04:41 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
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Not speaking for the S200 here. As button vs. cut rifleing I'd be willing to bet, if I gave you 2 rifles made up the same way 1 BR and 1 CR. You could not tell me which was which just by shooting them.

Neither could this chuck @ 568
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#2267247 - 08/11/12 05:25 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
idahovarmintcaller Offline
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Loc: South West Idaho
I have three Howas and one ruger, They may be made in Japan BUT THEY SHOOT!

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#2268295 - 08/13/12 10:28 AM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
dw32005 Offline
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Registered: 08/03/12
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Loc: IL
I really like my howa 1500 too. Really smooth bolt, and the trigger is just as good.

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#2269062 - 08/14/12 02:39 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: dw32005]
swampcrawler Offline
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Loc: Oklahoma/Kansas
Have 7 Vanguards (Howa-S&W) they Definately shoot.
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#2269276 - 08/14/12 07:32 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
EasternPredHunter Offline
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thanks, I appreciate it.
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#2269280 - 08/14/12 07:34 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: swampcrawler]
chemist1 Offline
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Don't be scared of the stevens 200 barrel. It is a savage all the way and it will shoot just as well. I had a stevens 200 in 223 that I sold to my brother and it would hold 1/2 min 5 shot groups using hand loads. I had to keep the barrel cool but it would do it. I also have a savege 12 in 223 with a buttoned CBI barrel that is very accurate as well. Buttoned barrels are fine.

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#2269707 - 08/15/12 12:14 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
Mike B Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
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Loc: central PA
The Americans aren't out very long yet, and are available in limited calibers so far, but reviews are very good, they're American-made, and go for about $50 more than the Stevens/Savage, and about $200 less than the Howa's from what I've seen - Stevens/Savage Axis = $270 @ Walmart here; American =$325 online; Howa = $525 online from what I've seen. I believe the American price will come down a bit as there begins to be more in the pipeline. FWIW.
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#2269881 - 08/15/12 06:03 PM Re: Howa 1500 vs. Ruger American [Re: EasternPredHunter]
DGW Offline
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Registered: 08/26/10
Posts: 432
Loc: Texas
Original question was a Howa or an American.

Sorry, I do not own either so my opinion should matter little. But, have handled both at gun stores quite a few times. I would not mind owning either one, but had a better impression of the Howa than the American.

Mind you, I do own Stevens 200 rifles, a Savage Axis and a couple of the Marlin XL or XS rifles. Of these rifle, I prefer the Marlins. Why? For me the Marlins have been more accurate and certainly have a better trigger.

However, back to the original question, Howa or American? Buy the Ruger American and then give us a detailed report/review of it. LOL, I've monitored Ruger American threads on a number of gunsites and comments from American owners have been few and brief.

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