Playing With Fire?

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While I am still analyzing my position on Condi, my first impression of this potential choice is not enthusiastic. I could not describe her as conservative, but then willard doesn't make a strong showing there either. It's doubtful she will be of any help from black voters. Women voters, who knows, if you could figure them out you're much smarter than I am. She leans toward pro abortion. I don't think she would help with independents. Help me out here.

Updated July 13, 2012, 9:24 a.m. ET

Rice's Name Is Floated as Potential VP Choice

A new round of speculation about Mitt Romney's running-mate deliberations ensued after a media report mentioned an unconventional choice: former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

The Drudge Report website set Washington ablaze in another round of the vice-presidential guessing game Thursday night by posting an item attributed to "sources" naming her as one of the top contenders to be the presumptive Republican nominee's running mate.

The item mentioned a fundraising email Ms. Rice, 57 years old, sent Thursday night on Mr. Romney's behalf as part of the campaign's "Meet the VP" drive, an initiative intended to increase the number of small-dollar donors in which the winners get to meet the candidate and his eventual running mate.

No one in the Romney camp would confirm or deny the story, in keeping with the campaign's tight-lipped approach to the selection process. But it's possible the item was a trial balloon from the campaign attempting to gauge the reaction to Ms. Rice as a possible pick.

The report caused outsize fanfare because Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades has a close working relationship with Matt Drudge, who launched the site in the 1990s and made his preference for the former Massachusetts governor clear during the Republican primary.

Mr. Rhoades sent an email to supporters late Thursday night alerting them to the campaign's latest fundraising push, telling the recipients, "Sometime between now and the Republican convention, Mitt will be announcing his choice for VP."

Earlier this week, Mr. Romney told a crowd in Grand Junction, Colo., "I can tell you…the person I choose, you will look at and say, well, that's a person who could be president, if that were necessary." He said, "And that, for me, is the most important single criteria."

Ms. Rice's assets are obvious: She's a woman; she's black; she has extensive foreign-policy experience; and her inclusion on the ticket would scramble the race in ways few other candidates could.

Her liabilities are also easy to cite: She has favored abortion rights, a position Mr. Romney has moved away from; she has never run for elected office; she waged frequent battles with former Vice President Dick Cheney; and many conservatives believe she was soft on Iran and North Korea policies during the George W. Bush administration.

Her tenure in that administration would also feed Democratic criticism that Mr. Romney represents another four years of Mr. Bush.

Still, in a CNN poll of Republicans in April, Ms. Rice drew the highest levels of support as a possible running mate.

Twenty-six percent of the respondents picked her, compared with 21% for former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and 14% for both New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. The poll showed Ms. Rice to have an approval rating of 80%.

Conservative activist Bill Kristol said he was "ambivalent" about the idea of picking Ms. Rice, saying he has had some differences with her on foreign policy. But he cited her high approval ratings in polls and said, "As a cold blooded political matter, you look at that kind of number and what she could do for me, and you have to be a little bit tempted if you were Mitt Romney."

Mr. Romney has offered few clues about whom he will tap—or even when he would make the announcement. The only name he has confirmed is Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, an announcement made to refute news reports that said the first-term senator wasn't in the running.

Ms. Rice sparked vice-presidential speculation late last month by delivering a speech to Romney donors at a retreat for his top financial backers in Park City, Utah. But she quickly doused those rumors, telling CBS's "This Morning," "There is no way I will do this because it's really not me. I know my strengths and weaknesses."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...oWhatsNewsThird
 
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Well...the Rombot is a clone of W on foreign policy. Rice will strengthen the notion of the Rombot as the return of W. It is very unlikely but would be welcome.
 
HuggyBear, I usually take what you say with a grain of salt and even get a laugh or two from it, but this "Rombot" nickname from such a devoted follower of the "fine man" is a little asinine.

You know that I don't love Romney and I would agree with you about many ways that he's not a true conservative, but if I were to truthfully compare one of these candidate to a robot, it just isn't Romney. You and I both know that Obama hasn't had an original idea since he was introduced to the socialist playbook at a young age, but even that doesn't make him a "robot" a communist yes, but not a robot.

Maybe if you explain how a moderate, flip-flopper like Willard is a robot I'll have a better understanding of what makes the man tick. Please enlighten me......
 
I'm hoping for Rubio. Rice would definitely be a lot more conservative than what we have now, and I think could help the ticket, but I don't really know much about politics. I think Rubio would be the best pick, and may help to even convert Romney. I haven't seen anything negative about him, as far as what I would hope for in a President. It would be great if we could just have a running mate that wasn't based on race or ethnicity.
 
Rice will not be VP. Drudge broke the "story" but he a has a horrible track record of predicting these things. Rand Paul would be my prefered choice for VP, followed by VA. Gov Bob McDonnell. Col. Allen West is a great patriot and would make an excellent Sec Def.
 
Originally Posted By: redeyeddawgRand Paul would be my prefered choice for VP, followed by VA. Gov Bob McDonnell. Col. Allen West is a great patriot and would make an excellent Sec Def.

Rand Paul would suit me just fine, not familiar enough w/McDonnell to have an opinion at this time. I would very much like to see Col. West in the mix but doubt he would get the nod for VP, as Dog said, would make excellent SoD. Love to see John Bolton in as Sec. of State!

Regards,
hm
 
Originally Posted By: redeyeddawgRice will not be VP. Drudge broke the "story" but he a has a horrible track record of predicting these things. Rand Paul would be my prefered choice for VP, followed by VA. Gov Bob McDonnell. Col. Allen West is a great patriot and would make an excellent Sec Def.

Agreed Dawg, Drudge is very tight with the Romney camp and I am certain this was his attempt to help in the way of a trial balloon. There was a box in the upper corner of his page asking people to vote on her as VP. I voted no, but the yes' were ruling the day. IMO Paul, West and McDonnell would all be good choices, that is if we were dealing with a conservative candidate, but we're not. Depending on how the campaign views this trial balloon she may get the nod. It makes my blood boil to think that like Clinton, Romney may decide to go with trial balloons rather than become an effective leader. However ABO.

ETA: Does anyone else see the stupidity of putting a poll like this on the internet and giving it one ounce of credibility?
How many of these 500,000 votes came from libs who hope and pray it helps him decide to build a losing ticket? Why, I would bet HB voted yes at least a hundred times. I'm just sayin. In the words of Forrest Gump "Stupid is as stupid does."
SHOULD ROMNEY PICK CONDOLEEZZA RICE FOR VP? (Poll Closed)
YES 62.93% (328,212 votes)

NO 37.07% (193,371 votes)


Total Votes: 521,583
 
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Originally Posted By: WorkmanHuggyBear, I usually take what you say with a grain of salt and even get a laugh or two from it, but this "Rombot" nickname from such a devoted follower of the "fine man" is a little asinine.

You know that I don't love Romney and I would agree with you about many ways that he's not a true conservative, but if I were to truthfully compare one of these candidate to a robot, it just isn't Romney. You and I both know that Obama hasn't had an original idea since he was introduced to the socialist playbook at a young age, but even that doesn't make him a "robot" a communist yes, but not a robot.

Maybe if you explain how a moderate, flip-flopper like Willard is a robot I'll have a better understanding of what makes the man tick. Please enlighten me......

Romney seems a little stiff and maybe doesn't relate too well to normal humans. He accepts his programming from the conservative wing of the party and repeats it by rote. The Rombot moniker is nothing personal...he appears to be a decent guy. Rombot just sounds better than other names that might better explain his political dexterity. Maybe he should be called the 'contortionist'.
 
Ms. Rice would be an interesting running mate, in that she would garnish the female vote, cover the black vote for all those who are disenchanted with Obama, and Ms. Rice was a pretty ballsy gal in ther position under the Bush Administration, where she actually had to do something. I mean realistically, what does a VP ever do? Aside from sit in wait, in case the president kicks the bucket, while looking like an idiot most of the time of late.

Allen West would be excellent in any position. The man is highly intelligent, disciplined, and don't take crap. He isn't afraid to set the record straight, and does not back into corners.

Marco Rubio has issues on the immigration side of things. He'd like to see us just forget they're all ILLEGAL immigrants too. Rubio supports amnesty for illegals and has on more than one occasion.
 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Originally Posted By: WorkmanHuggyBear, I usually take what you say with a grain of salt and even get a laugh or two from it, but this "Rombot" nickname from such a devoted follower of the "fine man" is a little asinine.

You know that I don't love Romney and I would agree with you about many ways that he's not a true conservative, but if I were to truthfully compare one of these candidate to a robot, it just isn't Romney. You and I both know that Obama hasn't had an original idea since he was introduced to the socialist playbook at a young age, but even that doesn't make him a "robot" a communist yes, but not a robot.

Maybe if you explain how a moderate, flip-flopper like Willard is a robot I'll have a better understanding of what makes the man tick. Please enlighten me......

Romney seems a little stiff and maybe doesn't relate too well to normal humans. He accepts his programming from the conservative wing of the party and repeats it by rote. The Rombot moniker is nothing personal...he appears to be a decent guy. Rombot just sounds better than other names that might better explain his political dexterity. Maybe he should be called the 'contortionist'.

Gotta call BS there HB, Romney doesn't take orders or suggestions from conservatives, if he did he would step down and let a true conservative run.
 
Quote:Allen West would be excellent in any position. The man is highly intelligent, disciplined, and don't take crap. He isn't afraid to set the record straight, and does not back into corners.

Marco Rubio has issues on the immigration side of things. He'd like to see us just forget they're all ILLEGAL immigrants too. Rubio supports amnesty for illegals and has on more than one occasion.
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The VP isn't going to set/change policy and needs to compliment the Pres., especially offsetting his weaknesses, either actual or perceived. West and Rubio both are excellent speakers and either would be an asset on the campaign trail. Wouldn't you love to see a VP debate between Col. West and uncle Joe?
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As you say, West is disciplined, highly intelligent, speaks well and stands up for what he believes. All great attributes, but remember the independant voters are the target here, as they are really the ones who will decide the election. Since Romney seems to be running a bit towards the center, West would bolster the more conservative half of the party IMO. I'd be very comfortable with him heading the ticket, to be perfectly honest.

Rubio fills the bill as well and would definately help w/the hispanic voters where Romney could use the help, but seems a bit cool to the idea. May just be playing coy, however.

Interesting times in which we live.

Regards,
hm
 
I like condi just fine. I'd support her for prez. As VP, she wouldn't have anything to do with policy, she'd make speeches. If the senate is tied, she'd cast the deciding vote & it would be cast as mitt wanted it.

for god's sake, look at who our current veep is! there isn't anyone mitt could pick that wouldn't be head & shoulders above slow joe.
 
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Considering that the VP is only a heartbeat away from the Office of the President, and is in position to cast a tie breaking vote in the Senate, Rubio or West would have my diehard support...Rice appears to be a little too moderate for my taste..
 
I agree with most of what you guys say except that one dude who seems out of place.Sort of like a nice herd of elephants with one donkey braying in the background.
 
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