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#2011855 - 10/04/11 03:55 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: frozenbutt]
Barkspud Offline
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Registered: 12/20/10
Posts: 28
Loc: Down east, Maine
That a pretty good question im sticking with more natural lures and scents. In warm weather i can't get them near a skunk smell. They go to rabbit or mouse pretty good even bluberries. Last winter when the snow got deep a little doe pee got there attention pretty good and they dug all the way to dirt. So as far as the best eveyone has a fav and all other suck. Im still learning and I'll tell yah this much you can't beat natural scent from there diet. Don't be affraid to try somthing new what works for u may not work for me. Also what best here in Maine for me may not do squat in your state for your yotes. Every trapper applies it different to much not enough ect ect. Most of all location is key and if you have that shouldnt need a scent is what my uncles and grandpa used to tell me. Ive seen them lug alot of critters...
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#2229768 - 06/06/12 10:44 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
milesd Offline
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Registered: 06/04/12
Posts: 1
Loc: Buffalo, NY, USA
I know this is a little bit of an old post but I agree with Chilson - Urine is one of the best attractors for Coyote, however just laying some Urine down at a set isn’t probably going to be good enough.Kishels has a good Coyote Urine that seems to work well
http://store.kishelscents.com/products/featured-products/coyote-urine

Heres a link to an article on their site that shows how to properly set up a good Coyote dirt hole set. You are asking about a lure, but the setup determines half of how well the lure will work. Some people use urine – but you can also use a bait or something like a food lure – depends what you want to tell the Coyote
http://www.kishelscents.com/2011/04/06/the-dirt-hole-set-how-to-make-a-productive-set

Good luck!

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#2229984 - 06/06/12 05:20 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
dan brothers Offline
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Registered: 12/03/10
Posts: 2887
Loc: Santee, SC 29148 USA
would bacon work...?
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#2230028 - 06/06/12 07:23 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
borkon Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Posts: 3338
Loc: minnesota
LOL Dan.
only iff'n its maple cured
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#2230301 - 06/07/12 08:35 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
Chilson Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 653
Loc: ozona TX
Heres a thaught for you all to think about, there are more options for lure then just a food lure there are gland lures there are food lures with glands most of the ingridients in these lures are used to leave a "trace" as well as act as stabalizers and fixitives voltality of a lure must be controled what a good lure does is suspend in the air but not dissapate at a rapid rate alot of oils fats etc work to help keep the odors from being so volatile they they dissapate rapily a good example is perfumes or colognes that is what i mean bye "volatile" or fast disipation and leaving not much behind after a short time a lure is desighned to let the partiles slowly leave in my opinion the best lures have a mild smell but have several of them i have learned alot bye a man named wayne derrick the man is a genious over 20 thousand coyotes alone to his name not to mention cats and grey fox he has shown me alot when you buy a lure take some things into consideration instead of "man that stuff stinks" think about how territorial,curious,aswell as hungry a coyote may be because he may be only one thats why a lure with several diffrent aproaches is so effective it gets a coyote or cat "hot" or agitated as well as makes him figure things out with his nose not only can coyotes smell so well they can also "taste" some of the ingridients from a distance the little ingridients people dont know about nor how to use is what makes a lure so effective. and once you think outside of the smell it opens a whole new world of trapping predators. i still do beleive urine is king but used with a good lure is is downright deadly but it must be used properly to take adult coyotes and cats a well as numbers.

theres alot more to lure being simply stinky if a guy thinks about it there are many odors to human beings that get us alerted angry hungry agaitated even upset roll many of those into one and you could shure get alot of peoples attention.do some playing around it shure is fun seeing the reactions you get. if a guy wants a quality lure that doesnt realy get old id say call wayne derrick hes prolly one of the only honest lure makers youl talk to i have also never heard of a guy not doing realy well with his lures theyve done well for me hes shown me alot about makeing lures i got a few im playing with but i dont thin theyl come close to a derricks lure

coyotes have a unspoken language of communication its used more then vocals and the lure makers that know what they are doing can speak it fluently in a bottle


Edited by Chilson (06/07/12 08:39 AM)
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#2230427 - 06/07/12 01:55 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
borkon Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Posts: 3338
Loc: minnesota
great post Chilson.
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#2230491 - 06/07/12 05:32 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: borkon]
TonyTebbe Offline
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Registered: 10/31/03
Posts: 18667
Loc: Lovington, NM
Originally Posted By: borkon
great post Chilson.


I agree 100%

Travis has learned about lures from one of the best. In addition, he has done alot of experimenting with his own recipes. I know quite a bit about predators, but I listen with both ears, when Travis speaks about lures. I'm betting money that he'll be a famous lure maker one day.

Tony
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#2230517 - 06/07/12 06:27 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: TonyTebbe]
Chilson Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 653
Loc: ozona TX
Originally Posted By: TonyTebbe
Originally Posted By: borkon
great post Chilson.


I agree 100%

Travis has learned about lures from one of the best. In addition, he has done alot of experimenting with his own recipes. I know quite a bit about predators, but I listen with both ears, when Travis speaks about lures. I'm betting money that he'll be a famous lure maker one day.

Tony


i listen with both ears to you my freind youve shown me some downright dirty little tricks with calling and man do you stack them up!

lures and urine are like the foxpro of the ole facrory nerves on predators but they are made like fine perfume and aged like fine wine. if only them old chemistry teachers could smell em now
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#2230616 - 06/07/12 10:14 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
ColoradoAlan Offline
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Registered: 09/11/09
Posts: 211
Loc: Colorado
Lots of good lures on the market. Helps a lot to put the set in a place where coyotes are in the mood to work the set.

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#2230779 - 06/08/12 08:30 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
ridgerunner2 Offline
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Registered: 01/29/09
Posts: 597
Loc: Wyoming
Here is a place to get some of the best lures and bait as marty smith the owner was taught by Ron hansen and his lures and baits are second to none....

http://www.kegcreekbaits-lures.com/index.html


Edited by ridgerunner2 (06/08/12 08:31 AM)

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#2231132 - 06/09/12 01:32 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
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Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 3552
Loc: Estherville,IA
A-1, MT Special bait, Good Day to Die, Sniff my ___! all good, and MO Breaks from O'Gorman.
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#2265253 - 08/08/12 08:46 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
ksboy2 Offline
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Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 1077
Loc: Greensburg,KS
I think too many inexperienced trappers try to rely too heavily on the "lure" aspect of what they are trying to accomplish in catching more fur. The object of course as with anything is to produce the most fur with the least amount of expense and frustration. In considering what lure to use I think one needs to separate the two types of trappers that go after coyotes:

1. the fur trapper
2. the damage control trapper

Its hard to debate coyote trapping when we combine these two schools of thought. The fur trapper is simply trying to catch as many coyotes as he/she can. Catch the easy and dumbs and move on to the next farm. These trappers need not worry so much about the gambit of lures: call, food, curious, gland, etc.... If you are trapping for fur, find a good bait and get to it. Spend your time and efforts learning where the coyotes are and will be. Learn how to make good sets. Get ground to trap and you will be successful. No matter how "good" a lure is... you won't catch coyotes with poorly located sets or poorly constructed sets, period. There is no "magic" lure.

Now, if you are doing damage control and you need to catch each and every coyote or that one shy biotch coyote that is like a ghost.... now we can begin to break down the science of lurology.... and I don't have enough experience in this area to even begin to discuss this topic. If you are not a specialist in wildlife damage control I would not even recommend exploring lurology because you will eat up countless hours on the internet and just end up scratching your head this winter...LOL

I guess I really rambled and didn't even answer this question... so I will do that

my favorite coyote lure: personally collected, blood red meat fed piss from a penned up red fox... the nasty junk that settles at the bottom of the bucket....

my favorite coyote bait: RK predator plus which is the Nelson formula

good trappin'









km


Edited by ksboy2 (08/08/12 08:51 AM)

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#2265297 - 08/08/12 10:22 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
shepherd0610 Offline
Predator Master

Registered: 11/22/08
Posts: 92
Loc: Pueblo, Colorado
I like urine and fur country lure.

catch all my coyotes and bobcats with it.
never tried making my own lure. have been saving all the glands to give to a lure maker.

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#2265303 - 08/08/12 10:43 AM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: yankeeleeroy]
PrairieMuffin Offline
Die Hard Member

Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 948
Loc:
urine & bloody meat. Red fox works best.

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#2265452 - 08/08/12 03:54 PM Re: Best coyote lure out there [Re: ksboy2]
Chilson Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 653
Loc: ozona TX
Originally Posted By: ksboy2
I think too many inexperienced trappers try to rely too heavily on the "lure" aspect of what they are trying to accomplish in catching more fur. The object of course as with anything is to produce the most fur with the least amount of expense and frustration. In considering what lure to use I think one needs to separate the two types of trappers that go after coyotes:

1. the fur trapper
2. the damage control trapper

Its hard to debate coyote trapping when we combine these two schools of thought. The fur trapper is simply trying to catch as many coyotes as he/she can. Catch the easy and dumbs and move on to the next farm. These trappers need not worry so much about the gambit of lures: call, food, curious, gland, etc.... If you are trapping for fur, find a good bait and get to it. Spend your time and efforts learning where the coyotes are and will be. Learn how to make good sets. Get ground to trap and you will be successful. No matter how "good" a lure is... you won't catch coyotes with poorly located sets or poorly constructed sets, period. There is no "magic" lure.

Now, if you are doing damage control and you need to catch each and every coyote or that one shy biotch coyote that is like a ghost.... now we can begin to break down the science of lurology.... and I don't have enough experience in this area to even begin to discuss this topic. If you are not a specialist in wildlife damage control I would not even recommend exploring lurology because you will eat up countless hours on the internet and just end up scratching your head this winter...LOL

I guess I really rambled and didn't even answer this question... so I will do that

my favorite coyote lure: personally collected, blood red meat fed piss from a penned up red fox... the nasty junk that settles at the bottom of the bucket....

my favorite coyote bait: RK predator plus which is the Nelson formula

good trappin'









km



i agree fur and adc are two diffrent worlds there is no magic lure but good location pays off
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