It's 1980 All Over Again

azmastablasta

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Carter's policies were bad, although not long term damaging like those of zero. Carter's policies were focused solely on energy, while zero is gradually shifting us to the European model of failed Socialism, that ignores the plight of the hard working middle class, upon whose backs rests the obligation to feed the government monster. While Carter was/is an anti-semite, he at least pretended to support Israel. Zero displays an open hostility to Israel. As for foreign policy, both were/are extremely weak, especially in the face of Iran. In fact it could be argued that zero is actually weaker in the face of Iran than was Carter. Amindinnerjacket plays him like a violin in front of the whole world like a dominant male dog treats a submissive, low ranking bit ch from the pack.

The key to this comparison is the fact that Carter was simply incompetent,while zero is also incompetent, but as well, he and his wife actually despise the America you and I have always loved and will do everything in his power to reshape us into European Socialism. His policies are more closely aligned to those of LBJ in the 60's. And the most telling analogy to Carter will be the overwhelming landslide that will wash the scumbag boy blunder out of power this November.

Barack Obama is facing his Jimmy Carter moment
As Mitt Romney closes the gap, it is 1980 all over again for the man in the Oval Office.

By Tim Stanley

8:14PM BST 25 May 2012

Until recently, Barack Obama’s re-election was regarded as inevitable – in the same way that summer follows spring, or a monsoon follows a hosepipe ban. The president’s poll lead over Mitt Romney was strong, while the Republican’s character was assassinated by a primary fight that permanently spoiled the reputation of his party. To court the GOP’s conservative base, Romney was forced to adopt positions on abortion, contraception, health care and welfare that are thought to be unpopular among moderate swing voters. Obama, by contrast, is the man who killed bin Laden and toppled Gaddafi. A choice between Obama the moderate statesman and Romney the craven conservative is surely no contest at all.

But in the last two weeks, things have changed. Obama’s re-election is no longer guaranteed; some pollsters think it is unlikely. Day by day, the odds are improving that Mitt Romney will be the next President of the United States.

What changed? For a start, voters are getting gloomier about the economy. Joblessness remains high and debt is out of control. According to one poll released this week, only 33 per cent of Americans expect the economy to improve in the coming months and only 43 per cent approve of the way that the president has handled it. Voters think Obama has made the debt situation and health care worse. The man who conducted the poll – Democrat Peter Hart – concluded that “Obama’s chances for re-election… are no better than 50-50.”

The president has tried to distract from America’s economic misery by playing up the so-called culture war. Earlier in the year he decided that he would force Catholic employers to provide contraception to their employees through their insurance plans, and he followed that swipe at social traditionalism by endorsing gay marriage. This embrace of Sixties liberalism has backfired. While contraception and gay marriage often receive popular support in national polls, Americans are far more conservative in the voting booth. Thirty-two states have voted on gay marriage and all 32 have voted to outlaw it – even liberal California. Nor has the culture war rallied his party’s base. In presidential primaries held on Tuesday, 39 per cent of Arkansas Democrats and 42 per cent of Kentuckian Democrats rejected Obama’s re-nomination. In West Virginia, 41 per cent of the state’s Democrats voted for an imprisoned criminal rather than the president.

The result is that pollsters find Obama and Romney edging towards one another. Rasmussen puts Obama only one point ahead; Gallup calls it a tie. With Romney doing better than the president in key swing states North Carolina and Florida, Gallup has publicly stated that Obama now has a higher chance of losing rather than winning.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ter-moment.html
 

Unlike Obama, Carter had not only the economy his policies stifled and high gas prices, etc., but Carter had a major primary challenge in Ted Kennedy and the Iran Hostage Crisis (Both his own doing, naturally).

Even without those things, I tend to agree with your prediction, AZ. Voters turned away George H.W. Bush after one term for one helluva lot less....
 
I'm interested to see when this landslide will start to show up in the polls. I see the Rombot in a very close race with our leader{fine man). Plenty of campaign left and many a slip between a cup and a lip.
 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71I'm interested to see when this landslide will start to show up in the polls. I see the Rombot in a very close race with our leader{fine man).

Now hear this! This is your fine man leader speaking. All hands forward lay aft, all hands aft lay forward, all hands amidships, stand by to direct traffic!

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Regards,
hm

 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71I'm interested to see when this landslide will start to show up in the polls. I see the Rombot in a very close race with our leader{fine man). Plenty of campaign left and many a slip between a cup and a lip.

I think you make valid points, HB. The more general polls do show a close race and it IS only May.

I think, though, that you should consider this: Rasumssen says, "Currently, 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove."

That means his support is at best tepid. He clearly has a significant base problem, those base folks are critical to ANY politician. Normally, one wants to have a revved up base so s/he can focus on the swing voters who actually decide elections.

To bring this home, the overwhelming majority of PM members are Conservative base voters--hunting and gun guys (HB and Rimmy are nice guys, but atypical voters among gun/hunting men). Well, as a non-scientific sample, look how fired up hunters/gun guys are to get Obama out! Romney is much more 'moderate' than most of us and we'd prefer a Reagan, but that isn't our choice right now. No, our choice is Obama or a guy at least a lot more in synch with our views than Obama is, so we WILL get to the polls and vote against Obama.

Our votes do not matters much in many states. I expect Jump and me here in WA will both eagerly mail in our ballots for Romney and Rimmy will darken the Obama bubble and notwithstanding Jump and Me, Obama will easily carry WA. Eastern and rural WA will vote Republican, but the urban, highly populated, liberal I-5 corridor will out vote us.

Likewise, much of the south will go Romney notwithstanding its liberal minority.

But can hunters/gun guys make a difference in key swing states like OH, PA, NH, VA, CO, NV, etc.? Yes, they can and will.

Problem for Obama is that unlike us HIS base is not fired up, at least that is what the 27% strong favorable suggests. His team is likely very worried that his base: the antis, the gays/lesbians, government workers, union members, etc. are going to sit it out in those states. So a statistical 'close race' becomes a rout when a base is demoralized.

So, HB, there's your answer and this is why I agreed with AZ. I'm looking deeper, into those strongly approve/strongly disapprove numbers. I saw this here in reverse four years ago. PM members tended to like Palin (I STILL do!) and were NOT at all enthused about McCain. I suspect many did not turn out, many here admitted as much. These are guys who would have polled as 'decided' FOR McCain, but it didn't matter, the were not motivated to vote.

I think this is where Obama is now with his people.

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(^ would have made a MUCH better VP than Biden!).
 
I accept your analysis as valid. However, I tend to disagree with the strength generated by a strong base. The poll numbers reflect the base, but more importantly they reflect the fence sitters that decide all modern elections. Democrats are going to vote for Barack and Republicans are going to vote for Romney. Independents can still go either way and decide our fate. The troubled economy explains the 27% and I don't believe that figure indicates apathy or that a significant number of voters will stay home. I could be wrong but many experts have Obama ahead in projected delegates and very close to the required number for reelection. The remaining months really are critical. I'll concede that Palin would make a far prettier VP!
 
Originally Posted By: Javafour

Likewise, much of the south will go Romney notwithstanding its liberal minority.




Obama is going to have a very difficult time in the south...

-- First he hit all of the Gulf states with his ban on offshore drilling.
-- Recent EPA mandates have caused much grief for the coal production states throughout the Smoky Mountains. Where many already live below the poverty level.
-- Then you have the issues with illegal aliens, and suit brought against the state of Alabama. Fact is Georgia, Florida, and Mississippi are having their own problems in the same areas Alabama was and do in fact, or were certainly contemplating similar laws to the one Alabama passed.
-- Although southern Babtist might have an issue with Mormanism, they likewise have an issue with the Muslim religion, Gay Marriage, and discrimination on the basis of religion.
-- With discrimination entering the picture, the "If I had a son he'd have looked just like Trayvon." statement comes into play. And, the liberal racist position he took in that matter did not serve him well amongst MANY voters in the south. Not just whites, because George Zimmerman is Hispanic, and Barack played the black side of that argument.
-- Couple that with the issues that are likely to arise in the south if George Zimmerman is acquitted, and what I'm sure will be his lack of leadership of the black race, as we have already seen in play in that matter, and it won't be good.
-- Then toss in the number of outdoorsmen that are seeing Gun Rights threatened through actions such as Fast & Furious, and he has an issue. Top that with threats from numerous liberal bunny hugging factions coming to a head, and more on the horizon, and folks are just getting real fed up with the liberal agenda altogether.
-- Unemployment isn't even a good topic down here.
-- And, there are still houses that were built and have been sitting empty for 3 - 4 years. Not just 1 or 2, subdivisions full of them. Many of those that did sell, developers, and contractors took huge losses on them to try to recover a part of what they had invested in them. Real estate simply is not moving here; there are properties here locally that have been reduced 40% and 50% since they went on the market, and they still aren't moving. And, this trend is fairly common over much of the SE.


As for when the landslide is supposed to begin... Florida is already showing little support for Obama in 2012.
 
zero isn't going to get the undecideds, they have never in history broken for the incumbent.

he's in trouble, he knows it. a lot of us know it, too.
 
I certainly don't hate the Rombot and I haven't really noticed the guy generating much emotion either positive or negative. I don't consider a win by a candidate as moderate as Romney to be any kind of catastrophe. However, if both houses of congress and the white house goes to the Republicans that would be a problem.
 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71I certainly don't hate the Rombot and I haven't really noticed the guy generating much emotion either positive or negative. I don't consider a win by a candidate as moderate as Romney to be any kind of catastrophe. However, if both houses of congress and the white house goes to the Republicans that would be a problem.


Yeah, we could try to undo all the stupid [beeep] that transpired while we had a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress and the white house!! And, we could maybe get a budget passed, possibly even one that balanced in time, and we could maybe get rid of some accrued debt, you know conduct business like business is supposed to be conducted. Unlike the Democrats know how to do!
 
Hey, guys. Don't be too hard on Jimmy Carter. If he had not messed up the economy so badly that interest rates went to 18%+, I never would have been able to retire!
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I still haven't quite figured out how the fed has managed to manipulate the economy to keep inflation down somewhat and interest rate at next to zero while spending our grandchildren's money, but you can bet the lid is going to pop off soon. Any time the government spends more than it takes in, inflation has to be in the very near future.

Regards,
hm
 
Agreed HM, I find the interest rate issue to be a conundrum as well. The interest rates have been low for quite some time and God knows they're printing money like mad. China has us by the ying yang. Now I don't claim to be anywhere near an economist, but this just doesn't make sense.

Maybe one of our more economically inclined members can help explain why this is occurring. Inflation is occurring at a rather rapid rate. It's easy to see at each trip to the grocery store.
 
The Fed actually seems to have controlling the core interest rate figured out. Of course gas and food prices are just going to bounce around. Inflation will be a bigger concern when the economy actually recovers.
 
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The Fed actually seems to have controlling the core interest rate figured out.

All the fed does/can do is print more funny money to try to stop the avalanche which is fast approaching.

Regards,
hm
 
And there you have the problem, they don't think, correctly that is. Massive amounts of retired Americans worked hard throughout their lives, scrimping and saving for their inevitable retirement. Many of us did not buy into the theory that Social Security would take care of us in retirement. The low interest rates on savings and investments are killing retirees. Couple that with the weekly inflation rates on goods and services and Americans are heading directly into poverty. It's a slow, invasive undercutting of quality of life.
 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Well...I would think they would raise interest rates if they thought inflation was a concern.

Nobody can afford the rates we currently have in place!

Let's raise them 100%+ just like a gallon of gasoline since the BOY took office in 2008.

The "BOY" is out and you had better pack your bags for Kenya!!!

Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
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