Mexican President Blasts 2nd Amendment.....Again

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Tell ya what, prez. Calderon; you keep your drugs and illegals and we'll keep our 2nd Amandment. Hows that for a deal?

Quote:Mexican President Calderon calls for assault weapon ban in US

By Kathleen Hennessey

Los Angeles Times/MCT
Published: April 3, 2012

President Barack Obama with Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada and President Felipe Calderon of Mexico (right) after a press conference in the White House Rose Garden on April 2, 2012. The leaders met for the North American Leaders' Summit, at which Calderon pushed for a revival of a ban on assault weapons in the U.S., saying the ban's expiration has led to the spread of guns across the border and a spike in violence in Mexico.
Olivier Douliery/Abaca Press/MCTWASHINGTON - Mexican President Felipe Calderon on Monday pushed for a revival of a ban on assault weapons in the U.S., arguing that the ban's expiration has led to the spread of guns across the border and a spike in violence in Mexico.

"The expiring of the assault weapons ban in the year 2004 coincided almost exactly with the beginning of the harshest - the harshest - period of violence we've ever seen," Calderon said, through an interpreter, at a White House news conference on Monday.

The Mexican leader was in Washington to meet with President Barack Obama and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper for summit on economic cooperation and trade between the three countries. But the ongoing drug war in Mexico largely overshadowed those conversations.

In remarks to reporters in the Rose Garden, Calderon urged the U.S. to do more to tamp down on gun trafficking and emphasized that the drug cartels that crime organizations are operating on both sides of the border. He claimed a direct connection between the weakening of gun laws in the U.S. and deaths in his country.

"I know that if we don't stop the traffic of weapons into Mexico, if we don't have mechanisms to forbid the sale of weapons such as we had in the '90s, or for registry of guns, at least for assault weapons, then we are never going to be able to stop the violence in Mexico or stop a future turning of those guns upon the U.S.," he said.

Obama, whose administration has not pushed to reinstate the ban, did not respond to the Mexican president's statement directly. Democrats largely have called a truce when it comes to advancing new gun control legislation, a political calculation based on the party's attempts to appeal to more rural and Western voters.

The president promised to "keep on partnering" with Mexico on security issues.

"We recognize that we have a responsibility to reduce demand for drugs, that we have a responsibility to make sure that not only guns, but also bulk cash isn't flowing into Mexico," Obama said. "Obviously, President Calderon takes very seriously his responsibilities to apply effective law enforcement within Mexico. And I think he's taken courageous steps to do that."

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Obama added that "innocent families and women and children being gunned down in the streets, that should be everybody's problem, not just their (Mexico's) problem."

But the administration's primary message aimed at trade. Obama announced a new effort with Canada and Mexico remove outdated trade regulations. The three countries have committed to "sit down together, go through the books and simplify and eliminate more regulations that will make our joint economies stronger," Obama said.

Obama said this is an extension of a White House effort to cut red tape in the U.S. that is aimed at saving businesses and customers more than $100 billion.

When medium and small businesses in the U.S. first start exporting, they usually send their products to Canada and Mexico.

"So this is going to help create jobs, and it's going to keep us on track to meet my goal of doubling U.S. exports," Obama said.

Obama also said that U.S. exports to Canada and Mexico are growing faster than exports to the rest of the world. In 2011, trade with Canada and Mexico surpassed $1 trillion for the first time.

Read more: http://www.stripes.com/news/americas/mex...-in-us-1.173417

Regards,
hm
 
It really is exasperating to have foreigners like Calderon and Obama try to tamper with our Constitutional rights. Both of their homelands/birth places, Africa and Messico, cannot control their own economies, let alone restrict firearms. It's a red herring that their guns come from here. Very few ever get there with out the help of the DOJ.
 
I saw the news conference on Fox News Channel and found it to be more ominous for gun owners than the author of this article(Los Angeles Times)has indicated. Calderon cited several third world nations where a proliferation of easy to obtain firearms led to genocide and/or a rapid increase in gun related violence. Calderon's statement might not seem important but consider the following from Senator Rand Paul:


"Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently announced the Obama Administration will be working hand-in-glove with the UN to pass a new “Small Arms Treaty.”

"Disguised as an “International Arms Control Treaty” to fight against “terrorism,” “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates,” the UN Small Arms Treaty is in fact a massive, GLOBAL gun control scheme."


That news conference,IMO,was used by Obama and Calderon to set the stage for a United Nations intervention in "America's gun problem". You'll hear alot more about this if Obama wins the November election I am sure.
 
Originally Posted By: ADKThat news conference,IMO,was used by Obama and Calderon to set the stage for a United Nations intervention in "America's gun problem". You'll hear alot more about this if Obama wins the November election I am sure.
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I have no doubt you are 100% correct.

Regards,
hm
 
Little mexican weasel CAN'T stop guns from crossing any of his borders because he will have to engage his milatary and stop all of his countrymen from crossing HIS border comming this way in the process. Can't have that as allll that american money made by those folks bleeds back into Mexico - making it one of their most financially productive products FOR Mexico.

Obammer probably promised Mr. C. another 900 million to back him up on the gun ban proposal.
 
Does the Mex president really believe that the so called assault weapons ban really banned so called assault weapons? All it did was ban high cap mags, bayonet lugs, and flash suppressors. All those evil things that most people didn't miss at all. The problem with the assault weapons ban was the absurdity of it all.
Caulderon needs to get control of his own country before he starts in on ours. Obummer needs to expain to him that it's not legally purchased firearms from this country causing his troubles, its his own out of control drug cartels, and the guns Obummer's DOJ walks across the border.
 
Originally Posted By: coyote6974Obummer needs to expain to him that it's not legally purchased firearms from this country causing his troubles, its his own out of control drug cartels, and the guns Obummer's DOJ walks across the border.


But that will never happen because 0 & Calderon are in cahoots on the gun control issue. Remember, it's not as much about guns as it is about Control! w/zero.

Regards,
hm
 
That's the problem. The people of Mexico can't possess firearms. Instead of making ridiculous assertions about how we should ban our weapons, he should legalize firearms in Mexico. A great majority of the violence toward the common person (non-narco) in Mexico comes in the form of extortion and coercion from piece of %%% thug who know the joe shoe cant own a gun. I am convinced that if guns were legalized those cowards would think twice about coercing, kidnapping or robbing someone.
 
Of course the whole thing isn't about reducing crime in Mexico or the rest of the world. It's about subjugating the citizenry. The only skin they are worried about saving is their own and they know they can never have complete control if the common folk can mount a serious rebellion. They want complete control and they can't have it without disarming everybody. Just ask Marx, he'll explain it.
 
I agree we should stop the flow of guns into Mexico starting with all the arms we give to their military. When you see a large bust of weapons in Mexico they aren’t hunting rifles they are full grade military weapons that we have supplied their military and they intern sell to the cartels.

drscott
 
Originally Posted By: jumprightinitOf course the whole thing isn't about reducing crime in Mexico or the rest of the world. It's about subjugating the citizenry. The only skin they are worried about saving is their own and they know they can never have complete control if the common folk can mount a serious rebellion. They want complete control and they can't have it without disarming everybody. Just ask Marx, he'll explain it.

You are 100% correct, sir. That is why there is no end in sight for this predicament. Calderon can demand all he wants but the Mexican government is so corrupt that they are the primary problem. The highest levels of government are in bed with the cartels. Who's going to stop them? Nobody. Nothing short of a revolution will change the situation. It angers me because Mexico is a beautiful country with many resources and good, hard working people.
 
Disarming the citizens of the US will never work, whether it occurs from within, whether it is UN sanctioned, no matter what. There are far too many people here, who feel too strongly about the second amendment, for anyone to succeed at disarming this country.

Calderone, Clinton, and Obama should all know better.
 
Quote:Second Amendment Not Responsible for Mexico’s Gun Violence
April 9, 2012 By Larry Keane

During his recent visit to the White House, Mexico President Felipe Calderon renewed his call for a U.S. assault weapons ban as a solution to the drug cartel-caused violence that plagues his country. He also claimed, according to columnist Bill Press, that violence levels are directly related to the number of guns in circulation. Both of these assertions are demonstrably false.

Calderon’s pleading for an assault weapons ban (AWB) ignores what multiple studies have shown: that the AWB, which existed from 1994 to 2004, was not an effective crime-fighting tool, largely because they were never used in crime in the first place. Also, since the ban expired, Americans have purchased millions of modern sporting rifles — rifles based on the AR platform whose ownership was restricted by the AWB yet at the same time violent crime has continued to decline in the United States to its lowest level in decades, demonstrating there is no correlation between the number of guns in circulation and the level of violence.

Let’s take a look at a few other points raised in Press’s column:

1.“We did a count, said Calderon, and discovered 8,000 American gun shops along the border with Mexico.” This is only relevant if you incorrectly believe federally licensed firearms retailers are somehow responsible for guns going to Mexico. They are not, of course. This is really like saying there are “too many” Ford dealers in a state where there are X number of DWI arrests in which the vehicle driven was a Ford. This also ignores the fact that firearms are only transferred by a firearms retailer after a background check has been performed on the buyer.
2.“Calderon claimed that in Washington, D.C., the rate of homicides per hundred thousand inhabitants is ‘higher by 10 — more than 10 or 20 than the largest number in any of the big cities in Mexico.’” Even if you assume this statistic is true (I haven’t checked), it is despite the fact that Washington, D.C., has the most stringent gun-control laws in the United States. It’s time to admit it that gun control is a failed social experiment.
3.“It’s almost as if, like global warming, the issue of gun control has disappeared from public view.” Perhaps that is because support for gun-control laws is at a record low in the U.S., according to Gallup’s annual Crime Poll. The same poll shows that most Americans do not support banning so-called “assault weapons” (even using this demonizing misnomer for modern sporting rifles), the very ban President Calderon and Bill Press seek to reinstate.
The real truth about Mexico and guns has been discussed many times on this blog, but in light of new press coverage of Calderon’s remarks, it bears repeating.

The independent research group STRATFOR — a publication Bill Press cites in his column — has corroborated what NSSF has been saying for some time about firearms recovered from drug cartels in Mexico: that it is erroneous and grossly misleading to say that the majority of firearms recovered in Mexico came from the United States.

Only 12 percent of the firearms misused in Mexico were originally sold at retail in the United States. The proof can be found in the U.S. government statistics in a report released by the independent research group STRATFOR and that the pie chart clearly illustrates:

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Also, according to ATF, firearms recovered in Mexico and successfully traced as coming from the U.S. were originally lawfully sold in the United States an average of 15 years before they were seized and traced in Mexico. So that means they were sold long before the “assault weapon ban” sunset in 2004. Good luck trying to find these facts reported anywhere in the mainstream media.

An editorial published in the Miami Herald taking up Calderon’s argument says that bazookas and automatic weapons are purchased in large quantities at U.S. firearms retailers and then trafficked to Mexico. This is ridiculous and patently false. It has been widely documented by such publications as the L.A. Times, Washington Post and CBS News, that the drug cartels are acquiring firearms and serious weapons like grenades from Central America and black market sources. Also, over 150,000 Mexican soldiers have defected to go work for the cartels, clearly taking their U.S. made firearms with them.

Our industry abhors the criminal misuse of firearms, whether on the streets of Miami or Juarez, Mexico. That is why the public should know America’s firearms industry cooperates with law enforcement to prevent the illegal purchase of firearms, most recently working with ATF along the border on a program called Don’t Lie for the Other Guy that warns the public about the serious penalties for straw purchasing.

We can all agree that there are serious crime problems in Mexico, and notwithstanding his factual misstatements, we do applaud Mexican President Calderon’s courage for cracking down on the drug cartels and rampant corruption in his country, that has even reach inside his inner circle. However, laying the blame for Mexico’s crime at the feet of the U.S. firearms industry is more an act of frustration than a crime-fighting strategy, and, as we’ve said before, sacrificing the constitutional rights of law-abiding Americans as a means of addressing this issue is neither an option nor a solution.
Read more: http://www.nssfblog.com/second-amendment-not-responsible-for-mexicos-gun-violence/

Regards,
hm
 
The mexican prez needs to watch his retarded mouth. If he hopped the border today, he would not have the qualifications needed to mow yards.
 
Why would he hop the border when he holds power there. I think many of you all have the misconception that all of the Mexican leadership is ignorant and uneducated. I've heard a comment that the leadership was retarded. If only that were true. They are quite educated (sometimes in our best institutions) and extraordinarily calculated. You do not have to be born in the United States to possess intelligence. Of course, this is not a defense of the Mexican leadership but rather I am pointing out the fact that they know exactly what they are doing and exactly why. They act in their own self-interest, common folk be damned.

This is why the problem will not be remedied by any means short of a revolution. Mexico is not lead by a crew of slack-jawed yokels but rather by a network of highly educated businessmen with the goal of extracting as much wealth out of the country as possible during their reign of power. One can spew all of the racist rhetoric that they desire but certain truths remain. Mexico can and should be an ally which provides an geopolitical buffer to the defense of our own country, but this role is jeopardized by the current powers that be.
 
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