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#2015425 - 10/09/11 08:02 PM Load data for 223 with varget
chefpierre Offline
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Registered: 02/05/09
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I am looking for load data for the 223 with both the 69 gr. hpbt and 77? or so hpbt with varget. I plan on shooting this in high power next year. Any info would be helpful. Please include COAL.

Thanks chris
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#2015465 - 10/09/11 08:30 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: chefpierre]
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Are you shooting it from a AR? Single shot or from the mag?

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#2015476 - 10/09/11 08:42 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: Dixiedog1]
ackleyman Offline
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24-25g of varget with the 69's did the trick in my brother's gun.

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#2015545 - 10/09/11 10:00 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: ackleyman]
chefpierre Offline
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From an AR, either magazine or single.
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#2015627 - 10/10/11 12:03 AM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: chefpierre]
trevor73402 Offline
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Registered: 11/08/09
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Loc: Southern Oklahoma
Just curious what twist you are shooting? Im wanting to step up from a 55gr to a 69gr bullet in my 1:9 twist. Most reports say the 1:9 twist will shoot the 69's just fine.

I currently shoot 25.1gr of Varget in Win brass with a 55gr bullet and CCI primers at mag length.

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#2015662 - 10/10/11 01:13 AM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: trevor73402]
OldTurtle Offline
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Chefpierre, I think you will find that the 77gr will need to be loaded singly due to usable overall length, while the 69gr rounds will normally fit the magazine if seated carefully...

I tried to load some 75gr A-Max for my 1/7 twist M4 and to get them in the magazine, they had to be set way back in the case... I was worried about excess pressure, but the five I fired provided great groups..
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#2015721 - 10/10/11 08:12 AM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: OldTurtle]
chefpierre Offline
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Its an 8 twist.
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#2015754 - 10/10/11 09:31 AM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: chefpierre]
markley Offline
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Registered: 11/12/10
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24.5gr varget with a 69gr smk. I will have to look at the overall length. this is for my 700 sps tactical.

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#2016602 - 10/11/11 02:32 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: markley]
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#2016736 - 10/11/11 05:32 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: slugger]
chefpierre Offline
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Registered: 02/05/09
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Loc: Da UP of michigan
Originally Posted By: slugger


I am looking for real world experience.
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#2016844 - 10/11/11 07:43 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: chefpierre]
MPFD Offline
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Registered: 01/31/07
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I'd start at 23 and work up .2 at a time. See if it tightens up as it gets hotter. Mag length...
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#2016856 - 10/11/11 07:56 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: MPFD]
Kaianuanu Offline
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Registered: 10/10/11
Posts: 105
Loc: Central FL & Southern OK
The Hodgdons website has a ton of great load data

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#2016864 - 10/11/11 08:10 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: Kaianuanu]
chefpierre Offline
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Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 2002
Loc: Da UP of michigan
Originally Posted By: Kai S.
The Hodgdons website has a ton of great load data


Im looking for real world experience.
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#2016974 - 10/11/11 09:51 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: chefpierre]
BuckeyeSpecial Offline
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Registered: 11/02/07
Posts: 780
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: chefpierre
Originally Posted By: Kai S.
The Hodgdons website has a ton of great load data


Im looking for real world experience.


Mr. ChefPierre:

Please note that a ballistics lab like Hodgdon's IS real world experience...it is the most real as it can get; with engineers, pressure testing equipment, statistical analysis skills...in other words, they have most everything the handloader doesn't!

The powder/bullet companies know what they are doing.

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#2016978 - 10/11/11 09:53 PM Re: Load data for 223 with varget [Re: slugger]
slugger Offline
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Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 1559
Loc: Elbert, CO
Originally Posted By: chefpierre
Originally Posted By: slugger


I am looking for real world experience.


So your going to load up a bunch of loads that were recommended on some bulletin board, that could very easily blow up in your face because the hodgdon website isn't "real world"??

Heres a load for ya, it works great in my gun:

scared confused .223 Rem -- 220gr of Varget (yes, very, very compressed load), CCI-250 Primers (pretty sure they will fit). Top that off with a 105 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip. confused scared

Last time I checked, they make the powder, doesn't get much more "real world" than that, but what do we know...
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