The 870 is the gold standard IMHO. I tried to tell my buddy to get one and he bought a 500 instead. We went out shooting, he and another guy both bought 500s. We were shooting clay pigeons and I don't think either one of them got thru a box of shells before things started falling off. No exageration. They saved a couple of bucks but that's about all. The one gun started jamming and they both put them back in the box and were going to take them back. If I'm not mistaken, the 500 only has one rail and overall they just felt cheap compared to the Rem. No offense to anyone who owns and likes their 500, just not for me. You can put about 2 million rounds through an 870 (YUP, 2 mil)! Point being, if you find a deal on an older one, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.