Thanks lex. Yes the one Im looking into is the 22 squirrel it uses 22 hornet brass and I have some of the brass was just wondering if anbody had any experience with loading one and all? Ive shot the 5mmC/F the only problem I saw with the 5mm conversion was the brass. The schroder brass that I shot was pretty ruff and had problems with it hanging up in the chamber. Might have been the rifle don't know? This new squirrel brass looks great and the guy thats making it also uses RWS brass and he said the RWS brass would last a long time. I don't know just looking into it right now moneys tight so it maybe awhile before I decide. ~marco