Where Does Canada Stand?

All those Canadians that were booing our national anthem show there true colors. As far as I'm concerned we should not allow them into our country to play any more games or anything else.

You can disagree on principle, but boo the national anthem, burn the flag or spit in my face and you really piss me off. I don't care if your American, Candadian or whatever else. All of those protesting here in the states can pack their bags and go where ever in the world they think is better. Don't let the door hit you in the backside on the way out.
 
Hey now, lets not get out of control over a few people. I am with our friends down south but just a thought here, did we not have our Canadian flag carried upside down a little while ago at a friendly sporting event down south? Remember, I am with you guys!
 
Yellowhammer, those morons no more represent me or any one I know than the Dixie Chicks speak for you. Chretien is Canada's answer to Clinton, just an embarrassment.My only beef with the war with Iraq is that it wasn't finished the first time.
There are a heck of a lot of my friends and neighbours who feel the same as you do, so maybe get a little smaller brush when you start painting.
 
It is called freedom of speech.

For the record, I'm not 100% for this war. I think the goals are good and on one hand the precedent that we are not to be messed with is good.

But we also set a bad example by bypassing the UN. (Not that any of us care for the UN anyway).
And Bush did fail (as a politician) to explain the meaning of the word "imminent".

I didn't see Iraq as a threat in the next two years. But we all know how time flies and if this wasn't done now, then when?

And I don't like it when people say "if you don't like it, leave". That is so anti-american.

I also don't like it when these protesters get violent and/or destroy property. I don't like to see our student walking out of class to protest! Do it after school or before. When did protesting make people above the law?

And I've never read about or seen a protester say they don't wish the best for our troops.

So, I'm not against this war. But I have some problems with the direction it took and the direction some people are taking it. Leave the right wing testosterone (sp?) and the liberal whining in the bathroom where it belongs. People are dying.

And I don't care what happens, Bush is responsible. Good or bad. He's the CINC here.
 
When people publicly protest against our war, they give hope to our enemy.
Nobody can deny that in Viet Nam the anti War protesters prolonged the war and the torture of our POW's. Our POW's we constantly reminded by the North Vietnamese that there countrymen had turned there backs on them.( not very reasurring to those who put there lives on the line for there country )Because of those protesters , the Hanoi Govt. new that in the long run, no matter how many battles they lost,they could win.
It's some of these same protesters that protest again today.The same organisers, the same Anti- American- Anarcists.When I see people marching with those Anarcist,I see that there willing to destroy this nation from within just like the traitors that lead them.
 
So anyone who isn't with us is against us? I don't subscibe to the "aid and comfort" theory. People (and countries) have the right to disagree and to voice that disagreement.

Many protesters went to far during Vietnam. I don't dispute that. But that was then. I don't see that now. I see people protesting (some in ways I don't like) that are also willing to help our troops loved ones here at home.

To support our troops and not the war is two separate things. And to not support the war is not anti-american.

This war is now being pushed as a rescue mission for the Iraqi people. (Operation Iragi freedom). But some screamed "wag the dog" during Bosnia. (Now most of us know that the KLA was not a "liberation army". There are many differences between the two wars. EX. Chemical and bio. weapons). I didn't want that war either. But the bloodthirsty ruler was there and people were dying. The only people that didn't think he was a threat were the ones thousands of miles away.

I guess my point is, I have alot of questions as to how this war was brought about. But the reasons for it are good. And I truly believe the end will justify the means.
 
Redfrog and other Canadians here-

My post was towards those particular Candadians that were present and booed. I fully understand that they do not speak for all. I don't think I was painting with a broad brush, but maybe it came out that way.

If someone flew the Canadian flag upside down, they crossed the line and should of had thier butt kicked.

Notice that I did not limit my remarks to Canadians. Yes, you (we) have the freedom of speech. But, I do not consider burning the flag or otherwise disgracing it to be freedom of speech. I'm not saying any Candadians have done it, but some Americans have. Although many would want to claim the free speech protection for doing it. Speech is speech and action is action.

I am ashamed that the Dixie Chicks are from Texas, and would not go across the street to see them for free.

I can't figure out why, if so many people are unhappy here they don't go somewhere else. If I were that unhappy, I would.

I saw where some "human shields" where going to Badgdad. That's treason if you ask me. If we're lucky, the first cruise missle took them out.
 
There is no protest that effects the lives of men and women in the armed services as much as the Anti- war protest durring war.To say you don't support the war, but do support those who carry it out may be true.But by the actions of those who protest, they give aid to our enemy, which cannot be good for our service men and women.
The big difference between Vietnam and now is the services are totaly voluntary.Theres no one in the military today that did not join of his own free will. Nobody is being told service is mandatory, here's a gun, go kill those guys.
I will say those who organize those protests today are anarchist.Look and see what groups are represented , A.N.S.W.E.R. , NAACP, Nation of ISLAM. Rainbow Coalition, NOW,ACT UP,and virtualy all the Gay community.If I protest this war, it will be by letters to my Congressman or to the Whitehouse..
As for the Canadians, its our fight not theres.We have took it apon ourselves to police the world, not them. I do believe they would be there if we realy needeed them.
 
MO, I agree that Canada would physically be there if we needed them. Unfortunately all we needed was their verbal support, and it wasn't given.

I think the people of Canada are facing some tough times ahead. Between gun registration and this it is my belief they are headed in the wrong direction. Good luck to those who strive for change.
 
I have friends that served in the first gulf war 1991, after coming back home and feeling, and hearing anti-war protests they were not the same people. It is terrible to sign up to defend your country and all it's people in war and find out that the people you are over there risking your life to defend are stabbing you in the back. Don't tell me it's not personal to them, and the distinction between the war and the troops isn't black and white. I am with Mo if I want to protest the war I will bw writting my congressmen. We need to pull together as a country behind the troops.
 
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When people publicly protest against our war, they give hope to our enemy.
Nobody can deny that in Viet Nam the anti War protesters prolonged the war and the torture of our POW's.
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Ho Chi Minh learned very well from his experience with the French that inspiring anti-war protest and using the media to encourage "perceptions" about the war was vital to North Vitanam's success. It did not happen by accident.

And Suddam Hussein has probably studied the same handbook. The protestors, while having the right to do so, are only playing into the hands of hte enemy.

BC
 
I know this is a little off the subject .
NYnovice,

you mentioned in a couple of post about how it "set an bad example" by sidestepping the UN.All I have to say is it is about time . If you look down through the history of the UN , you will see where the UN has dragged the US into conflicts that is really did not need to be in.
I am a former Vet. who did time in Desert Storm , Somalia , and Bosnia . In each of these "operations" , the UN was in control with backing from the US and what did it lead to . Dead US service members and the problem was not resovled .
The US finally decides to resolve one of those problem (A man that has not kept the terms of his surrender after 12 yrs.)and has to ask permission from the UN. That just does not seem right to this redneck.
Maybe my thinking is wrong but if it is please explain it tome so i can learn something.

Sean

EO3, NMCB-1, USN
SeaBees "Can DO !"
 
Its all good until we turn into the former Russia and just take what we want when we want it. I'm just saying it could be the "red scare" in reverse.
 
Sean Martin couldn't be more right !
The UN is more of a threat to our Liberties here in the USA than any one nation.
The worlds socialists could never defeat our resolve in retaining our liberties from without.But we have become willing members of the tool they use to whittle away at our freedoms by our continued membership in the UN.
Our victory in Iraq is not nearly as welcomed by me as was the spectical of the UN antics prior to the War. Hopefuly enough Americans will demand an end to our membership in it. It would be as great a victory as this nation has ever achieved for retaining our sovreignty.
With the Soviets out of bussiness, the rest of the nations no longer reach to us as there friend to wort off the long hand of communists..Now that uplifted hand has turned to a clinched fist with the middle finger extruded.
Now that we know our true friends in freedom, lets get rid of all that dead weight.
 
This is what we're now fighting. Read their agenda.

http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/index.html

and the socialistis (democrats) will try to bring us down because of their Good intentions but going about it in the wrong way.

To keep the doors closed we need to elect the right officals from the councilmembers in town to the President each and every time!.
If the U.N. "charter and chapters" don't look like the Soviet beliefs I'll eat my hat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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