Of COURSE Only Cops Should Have Guns

Stu Farish

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After all, that's why the other side keeps telling us that we don't need them, most especially we don't need to actually carry one with us, because the police will protect us.

Well, maybe not always. Consider:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020410/ap_on_re_us/shoo ting_deaths_10&printer=1

N.J. Cop Wanted for Murders Is Dead
Wed Apr 10,11:01 AM ET

DOVER TOWNSHIP, N.J. (AP) - A police officer wanted in a shooting rampage that killed five people was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound Wednesday about 15 miles away, authorities said.

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Edward Lutes, a Seaside Heights police officer for 15 years, was found dead in his car in Barnegat Township, Dover Township Deputy Chief Vincent Pedalino said.

Lutes was wanted for a shooting late Tuesday night in Dover Township, a New Jersey shore community that is still reeling from a February rampage in which a retired police officer allegedly killed four people, including his granddaughter.

Police said Lutes shot five of his neighbors, including two people who lived next door to Lutes and three who were in a house across the street. Lutes later went to nearby Barnegat Township and shot Seaside Heights Police Chief James Costello, police said.

Costello was in satisfactory condition Wednesday at Jersey Shore Medical Center in Neptune.

Another person was injured and taken to Community Medical Center in Toms River. It was not immediately known where the victim was at the time of the shooting or how they were injured.

Authorities did not say what they though was the motive for the shootings.

The first shootings happened about a mile from the street where John E. Mabie allegedly killed his granddaughter and three neighbors on Feb. 21 as he went from house to house shooting a .38-caliber revolver.

"It's just a sad time for the community," Dover Township Police Chief Michael Mastronardy said.

Steve Rizzolo said Wednesday he moved into the neighborhood 10 years ago, about the same time that Lutes did.

"He used to walk his dog down the street, and he'd say hello. He wouldn't go by without saying hello," said Rizzolo, who described Lutes as a "real neighborhood guy."

Several parents, including neighbor Karen Picht, waited with their children at school bus stops in the neighborhood Wednesday morning. Picht, whose 12-year-old daughter sometimes played with Lutes' daughter, said she normally wouldn't accompany her daughter in the mornings but she was concerned since the two neighborhood shootings.

"To do something like that, they snap," Picht said.

In another multiple shooting this year in the state, six people were shot to death Feb. 4-5 in two towns near Camden. Four were killed at one home and two were killed the next day in an apartment complex. A 16-year-old boy, the nephew of one of the victims, was arrested.
 
"The first shootings happened about a mile from the street where John E. Mabie allegedly killed his granddaughter and three neighbors on Feb. 21 as he went from house to house shooting a .38-caliber revolver."

OK, I've shot revolvers. They ain't quiet. Someone goess from house to house shooting one you're probably going to hear it. Anyone wants to do it in my neighborhood will be responded to by someone from my house, and we won't be wringing our hands muttering "Oh, dear..."

"He used to walk his dog down the street, and he'd say hello. He wouldn't go by without saying hello," said Rizzolo, who described Lutes as a "real neighborhood guy."

What the hell is it, we always get the description of someone having been a great guy before the incidient? They script this stuff or what?

"To do something like that, they snap," Picht said.

Mmmmmm, yeah, I'd have NEVER figured that out on my own. Thankfully we have this excellent reporting :eek:

An armed citizen at least has a chance to shut someone like this down and save lives. An unarmed citizen has much fewer options in the matter.
 
Thanks for the info Stu. I know that I will certainly feel safer when the anti-gun nazis manage to get it so that only cops (and criminals) have guns.
 
Oh no Stu, it wasn't the individuals doing it it was their evil guns, they took control of their minds and forced thm to do it.
 
There have been several cops that have 'lost it' in the last 2 months or so. I have heard of a case in CA(central valley) 4+ killed & a case in KY or TN. I am willing to think there may be more cases of this than CCW holders who 'lose it'.
 
I just saw this Stu and I'm sorry I'm answering it this late. What is your point in airing this?

Cops have been doing these unfortunate things for years.

Same thing happens in the military too! Postal service, everyday workplace for that matter.

What message are you trying to send here???????

Most of us read the papers everyday and watch the news. MSNBC, CNN. It's bad all over,depending on where you live.
 
Just a reminder that the claim the antis often make (the title of this thread) isn't the nice, safe, warm blanket they seem to think it is.
 
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