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#1618377 - 06/15/10 10:34 PM YOUR THOUGHTS
Bar M Offline
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Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 165
Loc: hamilton tx
I had a gyp well on her way to being a strike dog, that I sold to a buddy. He just couldnt live with out her. Well he was shooting over they dogs and she had never been shot over before and when he shot she left the bay and went to the truck and got in dog box. well he had her a few months and got bored with her like everything else he owns and i got her back, and now she will quit you. wont stay at a bay. very inconstistant. Some times she is a dream in they woods. but if I would of had a gun the last few hunts she would of stayed in the woods. Was not the dog I sold in febuary. Think it is from shooting over her?
will she ever come out of it?

Just wanting some opinions....

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#1618380 - 06/15/10 10:41 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: Bar M]
trapper2 Offline
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Registered: 09/11/08
Posts: 2182
Loc: north central okla
i had one the same way, never been shot over and when i got him i went to shooting hogs, he would leave and take me 2 or 3 hours of waiting on him, about the 4th time he did it i solved my problem by taking my collars off him and shooting him, i dont think he would have ever gotten out of it, seemed to be getting worse even after i quit shooting over him and just letting him bay he would stand back and watch me and booger bark instead of baying
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#1618387 - 06/15/10 10:56 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: trapper2]
gonzaga Offline
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I have never seen a dog overcome being gunshy.....I say that with limited experience. I only had one dog that was gun shy though.
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#1618760 - 06/16/10 05:32 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: gonzaga]
podunkcowboy Offline
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Registered: 02/09/10
Posts: 362
Loc: central florida
Dogs that are that bad usually dont get any better but I believe Id try everything possible if she hunts good. Try those tape recordings they make for bird dogs, Ive never used them before but some pointer guys I know swear by them.

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#1619079 - 06/17/10 12:49 AM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: podunkcowboy]
Duane@ssu Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 4095
Loc: Gods Country
I have one idea, this will either work, or you will absoulutly blow the dogs mind.
Go to the local trap range, chain him to a post and let him throw a "cow eyed fit".Don't talk to him,or go near him till he calms down.I have done this a few times with dogs I purchased,(2 were fixed, 3 wrecked, and culled) He will learn not to be scared of gun fire or be "wrecked for good".
Either way, he is getting a fair chance before the final decision.
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#1619278 - 06/17/10 01:31 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: Duane@ssu]
Bar M Offline
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Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 165
Loc: hamilton tx
i should of mintioned the dog will not be around gun fire so i am not worried about him being gun shy would rather them be that way if they cross a fence they not suppost to and get shot at they get gone

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#1619524 - 06/17/10 11:01 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: Bar M]
trapper2 Offline
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Registered: 09/11/08
Posts: 2182
Loc: north central okla
bar m, maybe put him in a bay pen every few days and let him figure out there wont be any shooting, biuld him back up to what he was
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#1620036 - 06/19/10 01:23 AM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: trapper2]
Duane@ssu Offline
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Loc: Gods Country
Sorry Bar, I thought "gunshy" was the issue.
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#1620042 - 06/19/10 02:14 AM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: Duane@ssu]
coloradobob Offline
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Registered: 01/23/10
Posts: 394
Loc: Massachusetts
Well I'm bound to make some enemies over this one but simply stated gunshy dogs aren't born they're made.

Chaining a dog at skeet range that is not acustomed to gunfire is nothing but a recipe for disaster. JMO. Never had a gunshy dog because I took the time to bring them along properly.


Edited by coloradobob (06/22/10 10:32 PM)
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#1620079 - 06/19/10 09:01 AM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: coloradobob]
podunkcowboy Offline
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Registered: 02/09/10
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Loc: central florida
In that case I believe trapper is just about right. Work him in a bay pen with some puppies or other young dogs where he is the more experienced hand and let him get back to the basics of hog hunting. BTW Ive noticed that being the most experienced dog in a pack is a confidence booster and will cause them to behave differently.

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#1620639 - 06/20/10 10:15 AM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: podunkcowboy]
RePete Offline
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Registered: 07/11/07
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Loc: Idaho (Clearwater County)
Originally Posted By: podunkcowboy
Dogs that are that bad usually dont get any better but I believe Id try everything possible if she hunts good. Try those tape recordings they make for bird dogs, Ive never used them before but some pointer guys I know swear by them.


We've tried the tapes on two different dogs without any success what so ever.

A gun shy dog is one of my worst fears..

Good Luck
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#1620677 - 06/20/10 11:39 AM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: RePete]
podunkcowboy Offline
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Registered: 02/09/10
Posts: 362
Loc: central florida
Im sure they are a situation specific fix. No two dogs are exactly alike so its only normal that the same thing doesnt work for everyone.

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#1622166 - 06/22/10 09:53 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: podunkcowboy]
patoloco Offline
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Registered: 02/05/07
Posts: 35
Loc: Port Aransas Texas
I like the trap range program. The only thing I would do different would park the dog a good distance from the trap or rifle range and let the dog eat some good food while the shooting is going on and get closer to the range and less food as the dog responds. The problem is the dog was not socialized to guns and loud noises from the start. I would also not put too much time in a hog dog because most of them that are hunted enough get culled out real fast by the hogs. A hunting dog should not be gun shy.

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#1622189 - 06/22/10 10:21 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: patoloco]
podunkcowboy Offline
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Registered: 02/09/10
Posts: 362
Loc: central florida
Originally Posted By: patoloco
I would also not put too much time in a hog dog because most of them that are hunted enough get culled out real fast by the hogs.


No offense intended but you probably havent had many hog dogs, and with that attitude not many good ones. Hog dogs take as much training as any other type of hunting dog.

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#1622193 - 06/22/10 10:26 PM Re: YOUR THOUGHTS [Re: podunkcowboy]
trapper2 Offline
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Registered: 09/11/08
Posts: 2182
Loc: north central okla
yea i'm with poduck on this, i've seen alot of good bay dogs make it to 9 or 10 when they are retired
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