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Quotearents who home school their children are often ill-equipped to perform the task once their children are beyond 7th grade.
I've no doubt that's true, but to what extent? How about some actual data with percentages?
Quote:Because few parents can teach 7 subjects they subscribe to some online teaching program or school which does a half-[beeep] job.
Actually, most home school parents order textbooks, go online, or in some other way use outside help in instruction. Not to do so would be foolish bordering on criminal neglect. You use textbooks, study guides, lesson plans, etc, in your classroom don't you?
That begs the question though, what percentage subscribe to an "online teaching program or school which does a half-[beeep] job" Scott. I'm sure you wouldn't make such a blatant statement without the data to back it up would you?
Quote:Many times the reason a parent pulls their child fro a pubic school is because they do not like the accountability a public school requires of a parent.
Gee, I thought the reason government schools were failing is because parents weren't being held accountable by the schools.
Never mind, I'm sure you are correct depending on the definition of "many times". Is that 1%? 99%? How about some actual data?
Quote:mleon,
You crack me up! Citing a list of courses as evidence that teaching can be learned from textbooks is absurd. Once again, IT IS IN THE APPLICATION! There are an infinte number of variables in the course of a class/ day/ semester etc. that would be impossible to learn from any textbook or course of study. Even the highly specialized skill jobs that you hold in such high regard have textbooks and required coursework.
Mike, you also need to learn to read for comprehension (or at least read the posts.
I did NOT "cite a list of courses as evidence that teaching can be learned from textbooks". I WAS citing the courses as evidence that the system (and Scott) seems to accept that teaching can be taught from textbooks.
This is what I said:
Quote:I tend to agree with you Mike, but apparently the "system" doesn't.
This from the curriculum for a BSE (just cause it was easy to get to).
Child Psychology and Development, Foundations of Education, Assessment in Elementary Education, Children's Literature, Models of Instruction, Music for Elementary Education, Creative Drama, Instructional Planning and Assessment, Mathematics for Elementary Education, Public Speaking, Educational Philosophy, Instructional Technology, Educational Psychology, Diversity Management.
You will note also (relating to the other post) that I tend to agree, meaning that while that is my suspicion, I don't have enough hard data to say with certainty one way or another.
This is a case where I think local primary school teacher's opinions ARE valuable, unfortunately it seems that our resident primary school teacher self proclaimed "expert" disagrees with most of the rest of the teachers here.
I guess I'll have to leave that one in abeyance until some actual data are published.
I've no doubt that's true, but to what extent? How about some actual data with percentages?
Quote:Because few parents can teach 7 subjects they subscribe to some online teaching program or school which does a half-[beeep] job.
Actually, most home school parents order textbooks, go online, or in some other way use outside help in instruction. Not to do so would be foolish bordering on criminal neglect. You use textbooks, study guides, lesson plans, etc, in your classroom don't you?
That begs the question though, what percentage subscribe to an "online teaching program or school which does a half-[beeep] job" Scott. I'm sure you wouldn't make such a blatant statement without the data to back it up would you?
Quote:Many times the reason a parent pulls their child fro a pubic school is because they do not like the accountability a public school requires of a parent.
Gee, I thought the reason government schools were failing is because parents weren't being held accountable by the schools.
Never mind, I'm sure you are correct depending on the definition of "many times". Is that 1%? 99%? How about some actual data?
Quote:mleon,
You crack me up! Citing a list of courses as evidence that teaching can be learned from textbooks is absurd. Once again, IT IS IN THE APPLICATION! There are an infinte number of variables in the course of a class/ day/ semester etc. that would be impossible to learn from any textbook or course of study. Even the highly specialized skill jobs that you hold in such high regard have textbooks and required coursework.
Mike, you also need to learn to read for comprehension (or at least read the posts.
I did NOT "cite a list of courses as evidence that teaching can be learned from textbooks". I WAS citing the courses as evidence that the system (and Scott) seems to accept that teaching can be taught from textbooks.
This is what I said:
Quote:I tend to agree with you Mike, but apparently the "system" doesn't.
This from the curriculum for a BSE (just cause it was easy to get to).
Child Psychology and Development, Foundations of Education, Assessment in Elementary Education, Children's Literature, Models of Instruction, Music for Elementary Education, Creative Drama, Instructional Planning and Assessment, Mathematics for Elementary Education, Public Speaking, Educational Philosophy, Instructional Technology, Educational Psychology, Diversity Management.
You will note also (relating to the other post) that I tend to agree, meaning that while that is my suspicion, I don't have enough hard data to say with certainty one way or another.
This is a case where I think local primary school teacher's opinions ARE valuable, unfortunately it seems that our resident primary school teacher self proclaimed "expert" disagrees with most of the rest of the teachers here.
I guess I'll have to leave that one in abeyance until some actual data are published.