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#1509485 - 02/02/10 01:45 PM AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint
NorthAZHuntr Offline
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Registered: 10/27/09
Posts: 69
Loc: Northern Arizona
Well, can't speak for all of AZ Game and Fish, but I attended hunting safety field day this last weekend (to get a permanant draw bonus point) and was pleasantly surprised to hear the instructor voice his opinion... says "if you're out game hunting and don't see anything and run across a coyote, shoot that mangey critter". Said coyote population is well over 100% in nearly every hunting unit, and they are taking a toll on all of the big game, especially during calfing seasons. Said he had a video of a coyote actually pulling out an antelope calf as the mother was giving birth. Wished they had more sponsored coyote hunts, but all the animal rights folks go nuts and made a big deal of it every time anything like that is advertised. Went on to say that since coyote trapping laws in AZ changed a few years back, they have really proliferated and the preditor hunters aren't even putting a small dent in their population control.
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#1509521 - 02/02/10 02:22 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: NorthAZHuntr]
Hyperwrx Offline
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Registered: 06/24/07
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Loc: Arizona
True.

I attended a seminar recently by the cheif biologist at AZG&F who detailed a research study done in AZ a few years back where antelope fawn populations dropped from 2000ish at birth to 525 after 3 weeks due to coyotes following herds around.

The imposed limitations on trapping in AZ screwed it all up. More should have been done at the time to save leg-hold traps. Now AZG&F cries about how the deer, elk, and altelope are decimated when they should have stepped up the heat and lobbied more for trapping. We also had a few real bozos in the drivers seat at AZG&F. Things have changed recently and we're moving in the right direction.
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#1509544 - 02/02/10 02:45 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: Hyperwrx]
huntinaz Offline
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Registered: 12/11/08
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Loc: Flagstaff AZ

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We also had a few real bozos in the drivers seat at AZG&F.

It was a long time since I took hunter saftey, but about 5 years ago while elk hunting in 5B south, and I had a G&F warden actually tell me not to shoot coyotes unless I had a use for the meat. I thought right then that something must be wrong for a game warden to say that to a hunter, especially in this state where the coyote numbers are high.


Edited by huntinaz (02/02/10 02:46 PM)
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#1509687 - 02/02/10 04:45 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: huntinaz]
NorthAZHuntr Offline
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Registered: 10/27/09
Posts: 69
Loc: Northern Arizona
Originally Posted By: huntinaz
I had a G&F warden actually tell me not to shoot coyotes unless I had a use for the meat.


What a idiot... I would have ask him "is that what the regs say or your personal preference"? And then for his address and told him you'd bring the "meat" to him as a gift.

I moved to AZ from Alaska who, unlike AZ (which makes you salvage meat on black bears), Alaska doesn't make you salvage any meat on preditors, even grizzly bear. But get nabbed hauling out caribou or moose antlers before you haul out evey once of meat first and you can kiss your hunting license, your kill and a wad of cash from the fines goodbye. Some folks liked bear but the smell throughout just skinning was bad enough for me... no way I could have ate it. Glad I didn't have to haul out all that stinky greasy meat too.
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#1509695 - 02/02/10 04:57 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: huntinaz]
AndrewS Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 100
Loc: Henderson, NV
If they allowed coyote hunting without a license or had a cheap nonresident license specificly for coyote I would be happy to help. I am in AZ visiting my parents several times a year. I can't speak for CA, UT, and NM residents but I know several people in Southern Nevada that would love to be able to cross state lines to open up hunting to the South.

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#1509847 - 02/02/10 07:00 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: AndrewS]
motox Offline
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Registered: 12/27/07
Posts: 228
Loc: Nevada
Its worth it to me to pay the year license fee to hunt coyotes in AZ. Since the there is basically no trapping or spotlighting them, it makes day calling a blast! Plus the drive out there is not that bad, considering I would have to drive further here in NV to get into the numbers I see in AZ.


Edited by motox (02/02/10 07:01 PM)
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#1510231 - 02/02/10 10:30 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: motox]
AndrewS Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 100
Loc: Henderson, NV
I was considering that for this year. Just having a hard time spending the $150 for one. Is there much between here and Kingman? I always see roadkill in Kingman and past it on 40 heading East.

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#1510284 - 02/02/10 10:58 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: AndrewS]
wesleyp223 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/10
Posts: 22
Loc: Kingman, AZ
If you know a licensed hunter in AZ they can get you a 2 day apprentice license free of charge once a year. I did this last year for out of state family visiting. They started this a year or two ago. Gotta go to a department office to get it.
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#1510456 - 02/03/10 06:02 AM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: wesleyp223]
4949shooter Offline
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Registered: 11/17/08
Posts: 1589
Loc: New Jersey Republik
Az should allow night hunting.

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#1510724 - 02/03/10 11:26 AM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: 4949shooter]
AZBrewer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/09
Posts: 121
Loc: Peoria, AZ


I wish they would allow night hunting! Sometimes even in the "Winter" it is pretty darn hot in AZ.


Edited by AZBrewer (02/03/10 11:27 AM)
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#1510779 - 02/03/10 12:29 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: wesleyp223]
AndrewS Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 100
Loc: Henderson, NV
Originally Posted By: wesleyp223
If you know a licensed hunter in AZ they can get you a 2 day apprentice license free of charge once a year. I did this last year for out of state family visiting. They started this a year or two ago. Gotta go to a department office to get it.


I saw that mentioned on here before but with less detail. Thanks for clarifying it for me. 2 days once a year would be nice but I am in AZ 4 or 5 times a year. I think I might just buy the license. Does AZ have any wanton waste laws that apply to coyote requiring the removal of fur or can you just leave them lay?

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#1510846 - 02/03/10 01:33 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: AZBrewer]
soggydog Offline
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Registered: 06/18/09
Posts: 138
Loc: oregon, columbia
Fine! I'll just move to Arizona. I'm sick of the rain anyway.

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#1511262 - 02/03/10 07:06 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: AndrewS]
wesleyp223 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/10
Posts: 22
Loc: Kingman, AZ
You can just let them lay in AZ.
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#1511289 - 02/03/10 07:25 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: wesleyp223]
Chevota Offline
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Registered: 01/28/06
Posts: 77
Loc: Tucson, AZ
I wonder what it would take for AZG&F to allow night hunting?

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#1511362 - 02/03/10 08:00 PM Re: AZ Game&Fish Coyote Hunting Viewpoint [Re: Chevota]
Jeff Mock Offline
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Registered: 09/01/01
Posts: 10283
Loc: TUCSON, Arizona
I started a petition some time ago for legalizing Arizona Night Hunting...

Petition to Legalize Night Hunting in Arizona...
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